300k more Central American illegals on the way

[TommyGunn]

Illegals consuming medical that no one pays for is a massive problem in the border states. Hospitals have gone under because of it, I believe.

Fox loony liberal blondie pundit Kristen Powers was on O'Reilly last night proclaiming that illegals don't drain the system because they're outside the system. I wish someone had raised this point on the show.
It was, however, a fun segment in a way; I thought Kristen & Bill O'Reilly were gonna come to blows. 
Poor Kristen .... she's such a loony-tune ......

[onions!]

Illegals consuming medical that no one pays for is a massive problem in the border states. Hospitals have gone under because of it, I believe.

Yes,there was a brief flurry about this on the news a few years ago.Quickly swept under of course.
A quick google- http://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/arizona-regional-medical-center-closing-due-to-financial-stresses

[MillCreek]

^^^^ My administration and risk management colleagues in the hospitals on the border states can sing chapter and verse of that song.  What is not commonly known about the Affordable Care Act is that the Feds have cut way back on grants and subsidies to care for the uninsured because theoretically, more of the uninsured should be insured now under the ACA.  However, the undocumented immigrants cannot sign up for the ACA.  Yet they keep showing up in the ER, and we still have to take care of them as required by Federal law.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/obamacare-bars-illegal-immigrants-and-sticks-hospitals-with-the-bill/282444/

[Balog]

Fox loony liberal blondie pundit Kristen Powers was on O'Reilly last night proclaiming that illegals don't drain the system because they're outside the system. I wish someone had raised this point on the show.
It was, however, a fun segment in a way; I thought Kristen & Bill O'Reilly were gonna come to blows. 
Poor Kristen .... she's such a loony-tune ......

I can't watch that assclown O'Reilly since he did a pro-gun control piece talking about how we need to get those machine guns and rocket launchers off our streets.     

[Balog]

Since I hate to use my best stuff at an away game, here's what I posted on this subject elsewhere on the intarwebs.


No one outside of a handful of La Raza thugs, business owners looking for slave labor, and the utopian open borders wing of the Libertarian Party wants mass illegal immigration. But most people are not directly affected by it enough to overcome the inertia of the system, the malice of our rulers, and the fear of being called raciss.

When normal folks far from the border experience a wave of armed robbery, theft, rape, and murder from these teenage MS-13 affiliated "children": when hospitals outside of the border states start collapsing under the weight of providing care that no one is paying for: when there is a national pandemic of multi-spectrum resistant TB or some other 3rd world nastiness traced back to an illegal in a detention facility: THEN people will make it stop.

[TommyGunn]

I can't watch that assclown O'Reilly since he did a pro-gun control piece talking about how we need to get those machine guns and rocket launchers off our streets.     

I heard that and was taken aback, but it was a number of years back and he was engaging in a bit of rhetorical hyperbole.
I have noticed one thing about O'Rielly; since the Katrina fiasco he has altered his opinions on gun control to an extant.  Once he favored registration and some other strict controls but he saw in Katrina the government just cannot -- or will not -- protect the people very well, and can even be dangerous. 
In last night's program they were discussing Chicago's weekend problems when some 80+ people were shot and wounded or killed; one police official (their chief IIRC) on a video clip said the proliferation of guns was why this happened.  O'Rielly came back and said that was total bunk, and pointed out how Chicago had strict gun prohibition and it still happened.  O'Rielly pointed out it was gangster violence and they needed "stop & frisk" laws and to actually enforce the laws rather than trade lesser punishments for guilty pleas in the court, which is what they ARE doing.
He's not perfect .... but he has gotten better on gun issues.

[Balog]

Meh, they're all entertainers. If they thought it'd get them more money, fame, and ratings they'd all become card carrying Communists in a hot minute.

Also, best term I've seen for this: Neue Völkerwanderung.

[roo_ster]

Sarcasm or bigotry?

Neither.  Send all the illegals back.  We neither need them nor want them.  If you read that as bigotry, maybe you ought to develop some sense of patriotism and sympathy for fellow Americans harmed by their presence.

And develop some curiosity WRT the refugee racket.  Maybe even google the problem. 

Putin's Man in Chechnya


The Tsarnaev's dad moved back to Dagestan, part of Russia, ~10 years back.  If he feared persecution for him and his, at the hand of Russians, that is a curious event.

Immigrants May Be Fed False Stories to Bolster Asylum Pleas
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/12/nyregion/immigrants-may-be-fed-false-stories-to-bolster-asylum-pleas.html?_r=2&nl=todaysheadlines&emc=tha2&

The man caught on the wiretap urged his immigrant client to fabricate a tragic past if he wanted asylum in the United States. To say that he was a victim of political repression in Albania. Or police brutality. Or even a blood feud.

 “Maybe you had to leave because someone threatened to kill you,” the man suggested. “Because of something that your father did to somebody else or something to do with the land. You understand? That can be a way to get asylum.”

Often enough, it is. A shadowy industry dedicated to asylum fraud thrives in New York, where many of the country’s asylum claims are filed. Immigrants peddle personal accounts ripped from international headlines, con artists prey on the newly arrived and nonlawyers offer misguided advice.

[Balog]

Everyone knows the NY Times is just a radical right ring white supremacist organization spreading lies about the poor refugees. Why not just link directly to Stromfront, you raciss?

[roo_ster]

Everyone knows the NY Times is just a radical right ring white supremacist organization spreading lies about the poor refugees. Why not just link directly to Stromfront, you raciss?

If you insist...

[SADShooter]

If you insist...

Oh, sure. You had to bring illegal immigrants from other planes of existence into it. You...dimensionist.

[MillCreek]

The Dresden files?  Are you talking about the racist massed bomber raids firebombing of Northern Europeans by other Northern Europeans.....wait.

[roo_ster]

The Dresden files?  Are you talking about the racist massed bomber raids firebombing of Northern Europeans by other Northern Europeans.....wait.

Anglo-Saxons bombing the scheisse out of Saxon-Saxons.  Despite close proximity, the violence went unCzeched, and the Allied taste for firebombing was Wettined.

[Viking]

If you insist...

From a later book in the series: "The building was on fire, and it wasn't my fault."

[SADShooter]

Anglo-Saxons bombing the scheisse out of Saxon-Saxons.  Despite close proximity, the violence went unCzeched, and the Allied taste for firebombing was Wettined.

No intent to Austria-cize, as I've been Hungarian for good puns as much as the next fellow, but your Pole-arizing analysis isn't really German to the conversation.

[Balog]

I propose we firebomb the puns in this thread.

[Sergeant Bob]

I propose we firebomb the puns in this thread.

Better to take off and nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

[Ben]

So an interesting interview I just heard, which is an aside from anyone's stance on the immigration issue, but more to the point of potential shady stuff the administration may be doing.

The interview was with an OK Congressman (I forgot his name). He wanted to go down to one of the immigration centers in Texas and tour it to gather information before he votes one way or another on Obama's $4bil request. He said not only did it take forever to get approval, but that he was only given restricted access. No cameras, no asking questions of any staff or detainees, strictly guided tour. If he had questions, he was told he could submit them, and they would be answered via email at a later date.

Denying access to a sitting congressional rep who is being asked to spend his constituent's money on the issue? There's a little something fishy there if there isn't more to the story.

[wmenorr67]

That was Bridenstine of the 1st District, mine, and he wanted to tour the housing facility at Ft Sill.

[RocketMan]

Since I hate to use my best stuff at an away game, here's what I posted on this subject elsewhere on the intarwebs.


No one outside of a handful of La Raza thugs, business owners looking for slave labor, and the utopian open borders wing of the Libertarian Party wants mass illegal immigration. But most people are not directly affected by it enough to overcome the inertia of the system, the malice of our rulers, and the fear of being called raciss.

When normal folks far from the border experience a wave of armed robbery, theft, rape, and murder from these teenage MS-13 affiliated "children": when hospitals outside of the border states start collapsing under the weight of providing care that no one is paying for: when there is a national pandemic of multi-spectrum resistant TB or some other 3rd world nastiness traced back to an illegal in a detention facility: even THEN people nothing will happen be done by .gov to make it stop.

FTFY

[Balog]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloward%E2%80%93Piven_strategy

BHO is currently speaking in Dallas, appears to be pushing Congress to "do something" which usually means rush through some 8k page bill they haven't read. Also Republicans are politicians and hate chillren and Mexicans.

[HankB]

. . . BHO is currently speaking in Dallas, appears to be pushing Congress to "do something" which usually means rush through some 8k page bill they haven't read . . .

Well, they have to pass the bill to see what's in it, don't they?

[Balog]

Well, they have to pass the bill to see what's in it, don't they?

I don't see what option we have. We just can't wait!!!!

[Northwoods]

I don't see what option we have. We just can't wait!!!!

What difference, at this point, does it make??

[SADShooter]

What difference, at this point, does it make??

The "hope" he can successfully "change" the subject.