Chipotle says "no guns"

[vaskidmark]

What states have done it?  Look at them. 

(And I think we should.  By the time it got around to Illinois, we knew how the whole process of legalizing and then normalizing concealed carry went.)

Dear Learned Sir -

Try again.

Legalizing and "normalizing" concealed carry is easy, as once you get over the horror of just knowing that somebody standing in line at Starbucks just might, maybe, is doing it right next to you but you'll never know unless they go all berzerk or sheepdoggy when some fool tries to rob the place.

But the folks in Texas already know that some among them are already carrying concealed and that there has not been a river of blood washing through the gutters, the horses have not fainted, and darned few women have actually stampeded because of someone concealed carrying (which if they are doing it right you would never know).

But what about letting them carry pistolas right out in the open, on their hips or in shoulder holsters even? What's your plan for getting that accepted so that it can be "normalized"?

stay safe.

[Balog]

My post from the Starbucks thread seems relevant..

http://www.armedpolitesociety.com/index.php?topic=40895.msg838250#msg838250

Yeah, I never advocated (or even heard of until this thread) OCing or making a big deal about being pro-gun. I posted a "go give Starbucks some money" thing on the facebooks whenever anti's tried to do a boycott, but there's a huge difference between "give them money to show we outnumber the other side" and "form a fire team and get your venti caramel macchiato in 3-5 second squad rushes." Morons ruin it for everyone

[charby]

There are no laws. Yet. But if you want some these fools are working for you


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I wonder if the mouth breathers' collective IQ even breaks 100. :)

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I am amazed sometimes.  I have done many many many foolish things. Some recently. Never occurred to me to photograph them much less post them. There are 2 videos out there one a police dash cam and one a friends super 8 both done sans my approval


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[SADShooter]

I am amazed sometimes.  I have done many many many foolish things. Some recently. Never occurred to me to photograph them much less post them. There are 2 videos out there one a police dash cam and one a friends super 8 both done sans my approval


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But you were, er.."operating"...before the advent of a) cheap, simple cameras capable of instant transmission to the known universe, and b) the compulsion to use the technology to garner attention from millions of complete strangers, foreseeable consequences be damned.

Brave new world, indeed.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

Technology does not make you smarter


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[lee n. field]

Technology does not make you smarter wiser.


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fixed.

[Tallpine]

But the folks in Texas already know that some among them are already carrying concealed and that there has not been a river of blood washing through the gutters, the horses have not fainted, and darned few women have actually stampeded because of someone concealed carrying (which if they are doing it right you would never know).

What is the right way for women to stampede 

[zxcvbob]

What is the right way for women to stampede 

If they do it right, you'll never know.

[Perd Hapley]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/guns-bullying-open-carry-women-moms-texas

Based on what I have read in other media, including newspapers in Texas, I suspect there is more than a bit of truth in this story.  Way to win converts to the cause, OCT.

http://www.progressivestoday.com/busted-mother-jones-caught-lying-airport-spitting-incident-was-a-hoax-video/

[Fitz]

I've seen open carry rallies in states that don't have OC with empty holster protests

[MillCreek]

http://www.progressivestoday.com/busted-mother-jones-caught-lying-airport-spitting-incident-was-a-hoax-video/

Now isn't that very interesting, indeed.

[Tallpine]

If they do it right, you'll never know.

That's what I was afraid of 

[vaskidmark]

I've seen open carry rallies in states that don't have OC with empty holster protests

'But... But...  But that's not actually carrying anything!!!  How can someone demonstrate for/against anything without actually doing the thing they are demonstrating about/over?

And worse, what if all those Civil Rights protestors just walked around with signs saying they wanted to sit at the lunch counter, instead of actually going and sitting there?"

^ actually said to me by a Person of Liberalism¹ when discussing the historical context of anti-war protesting.  I asked if by that she meant that anti-war protesters ought to wage war.  Deer in the headlights.

stay safe.

¹ - those are her exact words describing herself.  It apparently is what People Without Color Who Major In Liberal Studies call themselves.

[Fitz]

Not sure, but its probably fistfuls fault

[Perd Hapley]

Not sure, but its probably fistfuls fault

Hey now, I haven't openly carried a rifle since about 2000. Had enough of that in the Army.

[SteveS]

I can certainly understand why a lot of people think certain LGOC people aren't helping.  What I don't understand is the number of gun people that seem to think that Chipotle is being perfectly reasonable.  If a group of _____________ (insert some other civil rights group/advocacy group) was acting stupidly and a major chain decided to ban them, I doubt people would just say, "oh well, they had it coming."  Why doesn't Chipotle just deal with these people on a case by case basis and kick out the people that are causing a problem and ignore the majority that are behaving themselves?

[Perd Hapley]

Fence-sitting is about the most reasonable activity going. Like most of the Bloombergers' other targets, Chipotle offered token compliance, without doing much.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

I can certainly understand why a lot of people think certain LGOC people aren't helping.  What I don't understand is the number of gun people that seem to think that Chipotle is being perfectly reasonable.  If a group of _____________ (insert some other civil rights group/advocacy group) was acting stupidly and a major chain decided to ban them, I doubt people would just say, "oh well, they had it coming."  Why doesn't Chipotle just deal with these people on a case by case basis and kick out the people that are causing a problem and ignore the majority that are behaving themselves?

They didn't ban them, I woulda. They told them to leave their toys home. These fools wanted to be seen and treated as a group. They were. Unfortunately lots of other folk are included in that group



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[Balog]

From the comments section at Tam's...

Anonymous Mister_V said...
When trying to normalize open carry, it behooves one to appear, well, normal. Openly sporting a loaded AR does not say "everything is normal" to me, it says "the S has HTF," and I don't think I'm the only one. The attention whores like Navy Seacow and the Tapco Kid there need to realize that they are the "fursuiters" of the gun rights community. Sure, you have a right to do it, but doing it in public just makes the rest of us look like weirdos.

9:29 PM, May 20, 2014

I can certainly understand why a lot of people think certain LGOC people aren't helping.  What I don't understand is the number of gun people that seem to think that Chipotle is being perfectly reasonable.  If a group of _____________ (insert some other civil rights group/advocacy group) was acting stupidly and a major chain decided to ban them, I doubt people would just say, "oh well, they had it coming."  Why doesn't Chipotle just deal with these people on a case by case basis and kick out the people that are causing a problem and ignore the majority that are behaving themselves?

They prohibited a behaviour, not a group. That said, I wouldn't personally have a problem with them banning a group if the people purporting to represent it kept hurting my bottom line. They're a business, not a forum for morans to try to make a point in.

[MillCreek]

The adventures of Navy Seacow and the Tapco Kid! Sounds like a great movie!

[charby]

The adventures of Navy Seacow and the Tapco Kid! Sounds like a great movie!

[zxcvbob]

Any chance they are provocateurs hired by Bloomberg?

[freakazoid]

Anonymous Mister_V said...
When trying to normalize open carry, it behooves one to appear, well, normal. Openly sporting a loaded AR does not say "everything is normal" to me, it says "the S has HTF," and I don't think I'm the only one.

Some people would say the same thing about open carrying pistols.
The problem is mostly how you present yourself when carrying it.

[Boomhauer]

Any chance they are provocateurs hired by Bloomberg?

The opposition does not need provactateurs when there are frickin retards on your side.

I don't get why the progun crowd immediately starts thinking False Flag when crap like this happens. The gun culture is full of windowlickers such as these two. Go to just about any gunstore, and you will encounter them on both sides of the counter, for example. Or at a public range on a Saturday.