Post by: wmenorr67 on July 30, 2008, 06:42:47 AM
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When a 1,000-pound wild hog was shot last year in Alabama, 11-year-old hunter Jamison Stone couldnt have been happier. But his prize photos of the 9-foot-long boar have continued to cause a stink, one the Stone family cant seem to shake.
The backlash has only grown worse, with one group calling for the hunters' prosecution.
"It is unbelievable what my family has been through over the past year," Mike Stone, Jamisons father, told The Birmingham News. "It has taken 10 years off my life."
An online petition has garnered more than 800 signatures from around the world demanding prosecution for what activists are calling animal cruelty, according to the newspaper. Rhonda Roland Shearer, a New York City organizer seeking punishment for the hunting team, says it took three hours for the monster pig to die after the animal was shot 12 times with a pistol.
"My concern is that this case has brought a negative image to Alabama and to hunters who hunt ethically," Shearer told the News. Shearer has demanded investigations from the county and federal attorneys offices and two conservation departments, but no charges have been filed.
But her fight is not over.
There are people all over the world who are outraged," she said.
The Stone family is feeling their wrath.
"You should see some of the emails and hear some of the calls we have received," Jamisons father said. "They are explicit. They tell how they are going to kill my son, like cutting his head off.
"It has had us scared to death ... All I did was to take my son on a legal hunting trip."
The prize pig, shot by Jamison Stone on an Alabama hunting preserve in May 2007, was 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet, 4 inches from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail.
If the claims are accurate, Jamison's trophy boar would be bigger than the original Hogzilla, the legendary 800-pound, 8-foot-long wild hog killed in south Georgia in 2004.
The backlash has only grown worse, with one group calling for the hunters' prosecution.
"It is unbelievable what my family has been through over the past year," Mike Stone, Jamisons father, told The Birmingham News. "It has taken 10 years off my life."
An online petition has garnered more than 800 signatures from around the world demanding prosecution for what activists are calling animal cruelty, according to the newspaper. Rhonda Roland Shearer, a New York City organizer seeking punishment for the hunting team, says it took three hours for the monster pig to die after the animal was shot 12 times with a pistol.
"My concern is that this case has brought a negative image to Alabama and to hunters who hunt ethically," Shearer told the News. Shearer has demanded investigations from the county and federal attorneys offices and two conservation departments, but no charges have been filed.
But her fight is not over.
There are people all over the world who are outraged," she said.
The Stone family is feeling their wrath.
"You should see some of the emails and hear some of the calls we have received," Jamisons father said. "They are explicit. They tell how they are going to kill my son, like cutting his head off.
"It has had us scared to death ... All I did was to take my son on a legal hunting trip."
The prize pig, shot by Jamison Stone on an Alabama hunting preserve in May 2007, was 1,051 pounds and measured 9 feet, 4 inches from the tip of its snout to the base of its tail.
If the claims are accurate, Jamison's trophy boar would be bigger than the original Hogzilla, the legendary 800-pound, 8-foot-long wild hog killed in south Georgia in 2004.
All I would say is that they better come well armed.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on July 30, 2008, 06:47:50 AM
Post by: alex_trebek on July 30, 2008, 06:53:57 AM
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Rhonda Roland Shearer, a New York City organizer
Looks like bloomberg isn't the only one trying to enforce NYC laws in other states...
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on July 30, 2008, 07:09:14 AM
You want to threaten a KID who hunted down a 1000 pound animal with a pistol?
Seems like the kid is a good shot under pressure. If I was out for your typical 50 pound javelina and saw one running around that could theoretically eat ME, I'd go find another place to hunt javelina. Seriously. If he can face down a 1000 pound land shark eating machine, I don't think he's too worried about a bunch of elitist urbanite snobs with pretentious overblown claims to violent tendencies.
And if they come... he's got his 500 magnum to deal with them.
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2008, 07:11:07 AM
Post by: El Tejon on July 30, 2008, 07:23:59 AM
Yeah, always a good idea to threaten a Southern family that is armed to the teeth.
Post by: Firethorn on July 30, 2008, 07:39:59 AM
Because I'd be looking to sue Rhonda Roland Shearer for slander.
edit: Found one source that mentions that the boy pursued it for three hours to finish it off.
That's not torture, that's an unfortunate part of hunting. Once you wound the animal, if at all possible you're to track it down and finish it off.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8PBKB5G0&show_article=1&image=large
Still has inconsistances - it mentions 8 shots, before the coup de grace of the 9th shot. Not 12. Hmmm...
As for the eight shots - well, in a proper hunt once you've shot your target once, I figure most here would keep shooting it as long as it's still up and the opportunity to make a safe shot exists.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 30, 2008, 08:25:43 AM
What are a bunch of urban bunny-huggers going to do? Hit the kid with their Mao bags?
Yeah, always a good idea to threaten a Southern family that is armed to the teeth.
Yeah, always a good idea to threaten a Southern family that is armed to the teeth.
William Ayers is a leftist. Leftists can be surprisingly violent, but they usually choose cowardly methods like sabotage of vehicles, bombs, etc.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 30, 2008, 08:37:56 AM
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on July 30, 2008, 10:10:53 AM
taunting hippie dippies is fun!!!!!
Post by: xavier fremboe on July 30, 2008, 10:46:49 AM
But:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Pig
Barbara Mikkelson over at snopes has doubts as well.
(go to snopes.com and look up hogzilla)
Not condoning the death threats to an 11 year old boy, and I've killed my share of feral hogs, but the hunt itself seems to have been a canned hunt.
The parents were foolish to have called attention to it, and it does the hunting community at large no favors, either.
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on July 30, 2008, 10:52:15 AM
unfortunatly there is so much hype and warring agendas that i can't make heads or tails of this stuff.
Post by: FTA84 on July 30, 2008, 10:57:15 AM
Post by: MechAg94 on July 30, 2008, 11:17:47 AM
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"You should see some of the emails and hear some of the calls we have received," Jamisons father said. "They are explicit. They tell how they are going to kill my son, like cutting his head off. "It has had us scared to death ... All I did was to take my son on a legal hunting trip."
If this is true, I would have turned those threats over to the police. Regardless of any cruelty claims, death threats are illegal.
Post by: MechAg94 on July 30, 2008, 11:18:40 AM
hold on, why is the boy being charged instead of the hunting preserve?
I don't think he is being charged. I thought that was someone's excuse for not bringing charges.
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 30, 2008, 11:19:04 AM
Post by: xavier fremboe on July 30, 2008, 11:37:47 AM
As a Monster Pig, I find this whole incident revolting.
You should sign the petition.
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 30, 2008, 11:43:16 AM
The kid goes after a wounded animal which is something like fifteen times his own size, pursues it for three hours, and kills it?
And the tofu-eating idiots are going to do him in... how?
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 30, 2008, 12:05:00 PM
As a Monster Pig, I find this whole incident revolting.
You should sign the petition.You mock my lack of opposable thumbs.
Post by: Manedwolf on July 30, 2008, 12:14:06 PM
So wait.
The kid goes after a wounded animal which is something like fifteen times his own size, pursues it for three hours, and kills it?
And the tofu-eating idiots are going to do him in... how?
The kid goes after a wounded animal which is something like fifteen times his own size, pursues it for three hours, and kills it?
And the tofu-eating idiots are going to do him in... how?
As I said, they like things like pipe bombs. They're scared of confrontation. They blew up the windows of a Times Square recruiting station a while ago.
Post by: Nitrogen on July 30, 2008, 12:30:07 PM
...BY KILLING YOU!"
Moonbat logic at it's finest.
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 30, 2008, 12:33:34 PM
An 11-year-old with a giant revolver vs. a pack of feral hippies.
The promotional artwork would feature an adorable blond kid with a .45-70 revo, standing tall as multiple Priuses burn behind him.
Post by: seeker_two on July 30, 2008, 01:03:26 PM
I'm seeing the plot for a Hollywood film, here.
An 11-year-old with a giant revolver vs. a pack of feral hippies.
The promotional artwork would feature an adorable blond kid with a .45-70 revo, standing tall as multiple Priuses burn behind him.
An 11-year-old with a giant revolver vs. a pack of feral hippies.
The promotional artwork would feature an adorable blond kid with a .45-70 revo, standing tall as multiple Priuses burn behind him.
I'd see that movies ten times in a row......
Can we start a petition to have Rhonda Roland Shearer, a New York City organizer, locked in a room full of monster feral hogs for a week? Bet she'd be glad to have an 11-year-old with a .500S&WMag come in and save her hippie butt then.....
Post by: K Frame on July 30, 2008, 01:28:00 PM
"KILLING IS WRONG! I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THAT...
...BY KILLING YOU!"
Moonbat logic at it's finest.
...BY KILLING YOU!"
Moonbat logic at it's finest.
Yep, brought to you by the moonbats from both the right and the left.
Post by: MicroBalrog on July 30, 2008, 01:38:06 PM
Killing someone because they're coming to kill you is perfectly morally okay, and in fact is the sacred duty of the believer in some major religions (Judaism comes to mind).
Killing someone because they're coming to enslave you is perfectly morally okay.
Killing someone because they're engaging in murder or enslavement of others is also perfectly morally okay.
The problem with these idiots is that they equate the life of a pig with that of a human. Which devalues human life to the point where they' think it's okay to kill someone because he killed a pig.
Post by: yesitsloaded on July 30, 2008, 02:37:36 PM
Post by: yesitsloaded on July 30, 2008, 02:41:51 PM
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FRUITHURST, Ala. The Mystery of the Monster pig appears to have been solved.
The 1,051-pound hog, shot and killed by 11-year-old Jamison Stone and the subject of a world-wide Web firestorm over the photo's authenticity, really is...
Fred.
That's "Fred" the pig, and according to Rhonda and Phil Blissitt their humongous hog escaped on April 29, four days before it was killed, according to the Star newspaper.
Late Thursday evening, their claims were confirmed by Andy Howell, Game Warden for the Alabama Department of Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries.
"I didn't want to stir up anything," Rhonda Blissitt said. "I just wanted the truth to be told. That wasn't a wild pig."
Her husband agreed.
"If it went down in the record book, it would be deceiving, and we'd know that for the rest of our lives."
The monster hog gained worldwide acclaim after he was bagged by 11-year-old Jamison Stone, a Pickensville native, with a .50-caliber pistol on May 3 at the Lost Creek Plantation, LLC, a hunting preserve in Delta. The big boar was hunted inside a large, low-fence enclosure and fired upon 16 times by Stone, who struck the animal nearly a half-dozen times during the three-hour hunt.
The saga of young Jamison's hunt spread as the family posted the story and photos on their Web site, monsterpig.com.
The Blissitts said they were unaware that the hog generating all the media attention was once theirs. It wasn't until Howell spoke with Phil Blissitt that the pieces of the puzzle came together.
Phil Blissitt recalled Howell asking him about the now-famous hog.
"Did you see that pig on TV?" Phil Blissitt recalled Howell asking him. "I said, 'Yeah, I had one about that size.' He said, 'No, that one is yours.'
"That's when I knew."
Phil Blissitt purchased the pig for his wife as a Christmas gift in December of 2004. From 6 weeks old, they raised the pig as it grew to its enormous size.
Not long ago, they decided to sell off all of their pigs. Eddy Borden, owner of Lost Creek Plantation, purchased Fred.
Attempts by The Star to reach Borden were unsuccessful.
While Rhonda Blissitt was somewhat in the dark about the potential demise of her pet, Phil Blissitt said he was under the understanding that it would breed with other female pigs and then "probably be hunted."
Many other of their former pigs like their other farm animals had been raised for the purpose of agricultural harvest.
As the Blissitts recounted the events of the last two days, they told stories and made many references to the gentleness of their former "pet."
From his treats of canned sweet potatoes to how their grandchildren would play with him, their stories painted the picture of a gentle giant. They even talked about how their small Chihuahua would get in the pen with him and come out unscathed.
"But if they hadn't fed him in a while," Rhonda Blissitt said, "he could have gotten irate."
Phil Blissitt said he became irritated when they learned about all the doubters who said photos of Fred were doctored.
"That was a big hog," he said.
The information of the pig's previous owner came out on the same day that officials from the Fish and Wildlife concluded their investigation of the hunt. They concluded that nothing illegal happened under the guidelines of Alabama law.
Allan Andress, enforcement chief for the Alabama Wildlife and Freshwater Fisheries Division, said they learned the hog's origin as the investigation unfolded.
"We were able to determine that he came from a domesticated environment," he said. "So, he was not feral to start with. Therefore, he would not violate our feral swine trapping and relocating rule."
Mike Stone, Jamison's father, contends that he was unaware of the origin of the pig. Before, during and after the hunt and until late Thursday night, when contacted by The Star Mike Stone was under the impression that the hog was feral.
"We were told that it was a feral hog," Mike Stone said, "and we hunted it on the pretense that it was a feral hog."
Post by: lupinus on July 30, 2008, 02:59:10 PM
Post by: yesitsloaded on July 30, 2008, 03:04:26 PM
Post by: lupinus on July 30, 2008, 03:08:19 PM
You can argue if it's really hunting. But its silly to call protesting it any more okay then protesting a slaughter house, and has zero bearing on the matter at hand.
Post by: Sergeant Bob on July 30, 2008, 03:14:32 PM
Post by: xavier fremboe on July 30, 2008, 03:19:13 PM
meat is meat. What the hells the difference if someone wants to shoot the animal that was born in the wild, or let a domestic one loose in a bigger pen to shoot?
You can argue if it's really hunting. But its silly to call protesting it any more okay then protesting a slaughter house, and has zero bearing on the matter at hand.
Back to my previous post. Canned hunting does no one in the hunting community any favors. Particularly if this kid shot a recently freed domesticated pig 16 times with a .500 over the course of 3 hours. The problem is primarily with the parents boasting about it and publicizing it. You can argue if it's really hunting. But its silly to call protesting it any more okay then protesting a slaughter house, and has zero bearing on the matter at hand.
The death threats are wrong, wrong, wrong.
Handing a story like this to the anti-hunting/anti-gun crowd is quite stupid.
Post by: lupinus on July 30, 2008, 03:22:54 PM
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Canned hunting does no one in the hunting community any favors
I agree. My point is simply meat is meat, if someone owns a hog it's their buisness how they dispatch it. And short of maybe stringing it up and cutting slivers off while it's still alive or something unduly cruel like that it's not their business to call it animal abuse. Canned hunts may not be a great idea but it's a personal choice.
Post by: yesitsloaded on July 30, 2008, 03:25:49 PM
Post by: One of Many on July 30, 2008, 03:38:37 PM
Post by: Tallpine on July 30, 2008, 04:50:48 PM
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The problem with these idiots is that they equate the life of a pig with that of a human.
In some cases that is an insult to the pig
