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an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:14:55 AM »
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 10:28:33 AM »
This states far more about our courts then it does about the stand your ground law, IMO.  As far as I'm aware, Florida's stand your ground laws do not have anything to say about race.
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 11:11:29 AM »
Okay, two cases with little details are supposed to prove a point ...  ;/


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people who killed a black person walked free 73 percent of the time, while those who killed a white person went free 59 percent of the time

I could point out that blacks are statistically more likely to commit crime, so they are statistically more likely to be killed in a self defense shooting.
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 11:56:21 AM »
Quote from: Tallpine on March 04, 2014, 11:11:29 AM
I could point out that blacks are statistically more likely to commit crime, so they are statistically more likely to be killed in a self defense shooting.

Another point: Black perpetrators prey most on other blacks.  Thus, there is likely to be a MUCH greater proportion of blacks in that 73% than in the 59%.
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2014, 11:42:12 PM »
I'm pretty sure we discussed this article, or one like it, a long time ago. I remember reading that SYG favored blacks more than whites.

I guess you can prove anything from the same set of numbers.
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2014, 05:29:40 AM »
That's the fun thing about numbers, and why stats are often so useless.

Numbers are very easy to massage to your favor, and with good delivery to support your desired outcome.
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2014, 07:46:45 AM »
Interpretation of stats through ones own grid does not constitute proof.
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2014, 08:34:52 AM »
Am I the only one who noticed that the first two cases mentioned as examples state that the defendants were being raped and choked at the time of the killing?  Like the Zimmerman case that is always used as a banner for the folks that dislike SYG, those examples have nothing to do with Stand Your Ground.
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Re: an interesting analysis of stand your ground
« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2014, 09:00:29 AM »
Quote from: lupinus on March 05, 2014, 05:29:40 AM
That's the fun thing about numbers, and why stats are often so useless.

Numbers are very easy to massage to your favor, and with good delivery to support your desired outcome.

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