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A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« on: May 31, 2007, 08:42:10 AM »
From the BBC.

I wonder how much coke they'll have to sell in North America to finance this?

 
South America unveils pipeline
By Greg Morsbach
BBC News, Venezuela 

Officials from Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela are meeting in Caracas to lay the foundations for a jointly-financed gas pipeline.
The 8,000km (5,000 miles) pipeline would provide Venezuelan gas to much of South America.

It will cut across the Amazon rainforest and run all the way to the southern tip of the continent, and its price tag is $20bn.

Further details are expected to be announced later on Thursday.

The difficulty of the proposed construction is reflected in the size of the government delegations involved in the meeting in Caracas.

Some 20 engineers and economists representing Argentina, Brazil and Venezuela have spent the past day discussing the route of the pipeline, its cost and environmental impact on the Amazon rainforest.

'Political decision'

Now their bosses - Argentina's minister for planning and the energy ministers of Brazil and Venezuela - are expected to unveil some of those technical details after almost two days of discussions.


Venezuela's Energy Minister, Rafael Ramirez, told the BBC the project would contribute towards political and economic unity in South America.

"We've already taken the political decision to build this pipeline. Now we're discussing the technicalities," Mr Ramirez said.

So far it is not clear how the construction costs will be distributed among the contributing governments.

Argentina and Brazil are quietly confident that Venezuela with its oil riches may end up paying more than half of the costs.

If they fail to reach consensus on this occasion, the issue is likely to be taken up again by the Presidents of Venezuela, Argentina and Brazil, at their trilateral summit in just over a week's time.


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Re: A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2007, 09:19:07 AM »
How fast until Chavez seizes national control of the whole pipeline after it is built?

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Re: A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2007, 01:11:27 PM »
The same people who object to us drilling in Alaska or off our coasts will probably approve of this pipeline because it is socialists, not corporations that are planning it.
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Re: A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2007, 07:09:32 PM »
At least they are actually doing something about expanding their energy supply...

While our people sit on thier fat asses and wine about "windfall profits".

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Re: A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2007, 12:03:36 PM »
At the rate Chavez is ruining the economy of Venezuela, he won't have his share of the money.  The oil money is all they have, at present.  The output has dropped from 3.3 mmbpd to 2.8.  The Orinoco Basin oil is sour, high-sulfur.  Chavez has run off the folks who could refine it, and the Chinese haven't yet reverse-engineered our technology for dealing with sour crude.

$20 billion?  I don't think any of them can afford it.  I'm sorta dubious that they could even finance it into the developed areas of Brazil, much less down to southern Argentina.

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Re: A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2007, 01:15:19 PM »
With a pipeline that long how would they keep people from tapping into it?
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Re: A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2007, 01:32:37 PM »
With a pipeline that long how would they keep people from tapping into it?
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Re: A South American pipeline?Or a pipe dream?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2007, 03:32:53 PM »
Note the terrorism attacks on Iraqi pipelines.  Give anybody any thoughts? Cheesy

There was a US Army POL pipeline from the port at Inchon to the QM depot at Yong Dong Po.  Eight-inch, IIRC.  It was a flanged-joint bolted line.  Villagers would loosen some bolts and get gasoline from the joint.  This worked okay until one day they did too much loosening and gasoline flooded a village.  Nothing but a bad smell until it hit a cooking fire.

Might be interesting...

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