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Title: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: p12 on June 28, 2018, 09:16:41 PM
Annapolis newsroom shooting leaves 5 people dead; suspect in custody, officials say

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/06/28/annapolis-newsroom-shooting-leaves-5-people-dead-suspect-in-custody-officials-say.html

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“Gunman shot through the glass door to the office and opened fire on multiple employees," he said. "There is nothing more terrifying than hearing multiple people get shot while you're under your desk and then hear the gunman reload."

Sounds like a good time to return fire to me.



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Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Ben on June 28, 2018, 09:18:43 PM
Interesting that the finger mutilations may have been on purpose.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: MillCreek on June 28, 2018, 09:40:47 PM
The suspect lost a defamation case against the newspaper back in 2012, and had been making online threats against them for the past several years.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: BobR on June 28, 2018, 10:33:36 PM
The police were there in 60 seconds and yet there were still 5 killed. Brings to mind the adage about when seconds count........


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Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 28, 2018, 10:43:26 PM
The suspect lost a defamation case against the newspaper back in 2012, and had been making online threats against them for the past several years.

Multiple years of threats ignored.
Sometimes it's enough to make you wonder if "they" want this kind of thing to happen.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Jim147 on June 29, 2018, 12:35:28 AM
But Trump
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 29, 2018, 01:38:10 AM
Maryland: home to America's weakest, most NRA-compliant gun laws.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: HankB on June 29, 2018, 08:23:14 AM
I wonder if the newspaper offices were designated a "gun free zone" . . .
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 29, 2018, 08:47:57 AM
Maryland: home to America's weakest, most NRA-compliant gun laws.

Are you sure you don't have Maryland confused with some other state? According the the 2018 edition of the Travelers Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States, Maryland has a score of 20 (lower is worse). That's equal to New York, and just slightly better than New Jersey and Massachusetts at 10 each.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 29, 2018, 08:49:18 AM
I wonder if the newspaper offices were designated a "gun free zone" . . .

I'm looking for the answer to that. I need it for my tabulation.

But we know the shooter didn't use an "assault weapon," and the motive apparently wasn't Islamic terrorism.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 29, 2018, 09:07:18 AM
Are you sure you don't have Maryland confused with some other state? According the the 2018 edition of the Travelers Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States, Maryland has a score of 20 (lower is worse). That's equal to New York, and just slightly better than New Jersey and Massachusetts at 10 each.

I was just assuming, since there was a mass shooting with a sawed-off, fully-semi-automatic AR-47, with grenade lug, flash-silencer, and 30-caliber clip, that it must be one of those states ruled over by Dana Loesch's clenched fist of racism. Or something.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: brimic on June 29, 2018, 09:14:47 AM
I'm looking for the answer to that. I need it for my tabulation.

But we know the shooter didn't use an "assault weapon," and the motive apparently wasn't Islamic terrorism.

-Newspaper
-Maryland
I would assume it was a 'gun free zone' until proven otherwise.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: makattak on June 29, 2018, 09:15:05 AM
Are you sure you don't have Maryland confused with some other state? According the the 2018 edition of the Travelers Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States, Maryland has a score of 20 (lower is worse). That's equal to New York, and just slightly better than New Jersey and Massachusetts at 10 each.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSy5mEcmgwU
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 29, 2018, 09:45:04 AM
-Newspaper
-Maryland
I would assume it was a 'gun free zone' until proven otherwise.


I thought the entire state of Maryland was a gun-free zone.

Unless, of course, you're one of those people who can be fully trusted with a firearm. Like, say, the Baltimore PD. Everybody trusts them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Baltimore_protests
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Scout26 on June 29, 2018, 04:23:01 PM
Maryland is pretty much a gun-free zone.  Permits are "May-issue" and without a "Good and Substantial Reason" you can't get one. (Generally has to be because of your business)

http://handgunlaw.us/states/maryland.pdf
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Ben on June 29, 2018, 04:24:02 PM
Well, here we go with how a pump action shotgun works:

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/06/29/come-on-nbc-news-journos-explanation-of-how-a-shotgun-works-sends-heads-crashing-to-desks-again/

Soon USA Today will have a picture of:

(https://d1u5p3l4wpay3k.cloudfront.net/seaofthieves_gamepedia/thumb/5/53/Icon_Blunderbuss.png/250px-Icon_Blunderbuss.png?version=04dc457e8743072d47c6ac99deb10477)

Except with a chainsaw attached. Because it's gotta be killing the usual suspects that grandpappy's shotgun was used here.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 29, 2018, 05:20:39 PM
Well, now we have a dilemma. The NBC [alleged] journalist who explained that a shotgun is like a backwards funnel says the gun was purchased legally. But ... the guy had a criminal history. Which means he was not allowed under federal law to possess (r to buy) a firearm, or ammunition. However, it seems Maryland's carefully-crafted gun control laws don't ask buyers of shotguns if they have been convicted of felonies.

So in my tabulation of mass shootings, do I record this one as having been purchased legally, or illegally? Despite what NBC says, I'm inclined to mark it as illegal.

Has anyone determined whether or not the building (or the newspaper's office) was a gun-free zone?
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 29, 2018, 06:09:17 PM
Only report I've heard mentioned a misdemeanor conviction.
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 29, 2018, 07:35:47 PM
Only report I've heard mentioned a misdemeanor conviction.


You're right -- that's all I can find now. Earlier today, I saw an article (which I can't find again) that said something about Maryland's gun laws requiring strict background checks for handguns and "assault weapons," but not requiring checks for shotguns. Maybe I was reading more than was said, but I had the impression they were saying that he shouldn't have been allowed to buy a firearm.

But ... now I can't find that article (or, if I found it again, it has been updated and that statement removed).
Title: Re: Shooting at a newsroom
Post by: Sindawe on June 29, 2018, 07:50:23 PM
Multiple years of threats ignored.
Sometimes it's enough to make you wonder if "they" want this kind of thing to happen.

"They" are throwing out as many shiny baubles as possible in an attempt to distract from the accelerating unraveling of "The Plan" and unveiling of all their nasty disgusting secrets that started when Hillary lost the election in 2016.  Its not working, so "They" are getting panicked & desperate for something, ANYTHING to take the heat off of themselves.  Some talking head on the glass teat supported crashing the economy a few days ago.  I read in passing this AM that some Left leaning Millionaire suggested that a Nuclear War would help in redirecting Trump.