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Decided to go take a flying lesson, perhaps even go so far as to get my license.

It's been a lifelong dream, but always "later"

Well, now is later. I'm doin it.
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2015, 05:54:02 PM »
My Dad, who flew Corsairs for the Navy in WWII and was a private pilot for many years after, always said "Try not to run out of time, airspeed and altitude all at the same time'.  Words to live by.
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2015, 06:02:09 PM »
Decided to go take a flying lesson, perhaps even go so far as to get my license.

IMO, the Piper Cub was about the best darn thing to learn in; when all else fails, let go and it'll generally fix it for you.  Plus, even bone stock, it has a pretty slow landing speed; tricked out with all the STOL toys, the darn things land at walking pace.  Once you've got it smooth in a tail dragger, you've got it.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2015, 06:13:09 PM »
It's me.

Decided to go take a flying lesson, perhaps even go so far as to get my license.

It's been a lifelong dream, but always "later"

Well, now is later. I'm doin it.

Go for it! Had my ticket once. Dad had a couple of planes, a Cessna 140A and a Piper 180.  Let the medical expire not long after I moved to Lubbock. Too 'spensive to rent and too far to drive for an occasional joyride.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2015, 06:25:48 PM »
If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
Those things crash all the time.  It never makes the news anymore.   :lol:
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2015, 06:26:11 PM »
yeah, go for it!  I really enjoyed getting my ticket years ago- no longer current but it was fun!
 
 millcreek, yes-  "out of altitude, out of airspeed , and out of ideas.."

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2015, 06:33:50 PM »
Jeebus. Expensive.

Who knows if i'll keep flying. Although i imagine if i do, i'll want to get into my own bird.


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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2015, 06:38:25 PM »
Have fun! I learned in an old 172.

Are you looking at private, or sport?
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2015, 06:46:47 PM »
Just remember the green stuff should be below you and the blue stuff should be above you.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2015, 06:47:18 PM »
Jeebus. Expensive.


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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2015, 06:53:12 PM »
Have fun! I learned in an old 172.

Are you looking at private, or sport?

Private at the moment. Sport is cheaper. Dunno, maybe will do that. The limitations don't seem too onerous.
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2015, 06:55:34 PM »
Jeebus. Expensive.

Who knows if i'll keep flying. Although i imagine if i do, i'll want to get into my own bird.




I've got my license, had it since '06.

To at least get your license, it's cheaper to rent. Remember ownership comes with insurance (not cheap for a low time pilot), an annual inspection for the airplane each year (also not cheap), plus depending on where you are, potentially property taxes. If you don't end up flying much per year, it's cheaper to rent.

You should be able to find a flight club or FBO that rents for around $120/hr wet (fuel included) for a Cessna 172, I would think. The Cessna flight centers are more expensive due to having newer equipment. Instructor will cost you about 40/hr or so through an FBO, there are independent instructors out there.

Self study for ground school and you can easily prepare yourself for the written.

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Are you looking at private, or sport?

I've looked hard at the Sport certificate and other than lesser training requirements IMHO it provides no real benefits, plus the aircraft are generally not any cheaper than a standard category aircraft. I'd go ahead and go for the private if I was you, then if you do want to buy an aircraft you'll have access to much cheaper older standard category aircraft


BTW, I got my license in HS and worked to pay for  the lessons. I rented a 172 at 105/hr to do it. If I could do it then, you should have no problem with it. The cost is spread over time so it doesn't hurt nearly as bad as dropping all the ducats at once.



OH! And if you have the GI bill, you can use it for flight training. I think you gotta get the private on your own dime, but after that I believe you can use the money for instrument/commercial. Not up on the details as I'm not a vet, but it's worth looking into.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2015, 07:38:20 PM »
IMO, the Piper Cub was about the best darn thing to learn in; when all else fails, let go and it'll generally fix it for you.  Plus, even bone stock, it has a pretty slow landing speed; tricked out with all the STOL toys, the darn things land at walking pace.  Once you've got it smooth in a tail dragger, you've got it.

Yeah, this is how you do it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7u1jzjFL8s
???  Maybe my memory has gone sideways again.  I thought Piper Cubs had nosewheels.  "Tricycle gear" IIRC......   
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2015, 07:46:10 PM »
???  Maybe my memory has gone sideways again.  I thought Piper Cubs had nosewheels.  "Tricycle gear" IIRC......   

No piper cubs are taildraggers.

Piper Colts/Tri-Pacers on the other hand, are tricycle gear.





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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2015, 07:49:41 PM »
No piper cubs are taildraggers.

Piper Colts/Tri-Pacers on the other hand, are tricycle gear.

OK.   WHen I was a kid I had a model of what reportedly was a Piper Cub.   It had tricycle gear.  Maybe it was a Colt or Tripacer or something else and I am misremembering.   . . . . .  It's been 50 years so judge kindly.... :angel:


EDIT:  Looked it up on Wikipedia.   Yup, taildragger.   But if it had been refered to by an old army designation "L-4" I'd have recalled better what type of plane it was.   
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2015, 07:51:34 PM »
And remember the three most worthless things in an emergency:

    Fuel on the Ground
    Runway behind you
    Sky above you


Have fun and good luck.  Robert is shoveling driveway's because there's a Helicopter Hovering Adventure for $300.00, near our house.   Includes some basic instruction then 30 minutes of Hands-on flying/hovering.




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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2015, 08:13:59 PM »
When one engine fails on a twin-engine airplane you always have enough power left to get you to the scene of the crash.

Airspeed, altitude and brains. Two are always needed to successfully complete the flight.

Mankind has a perfect record in aviation; we never left one up there!

If something hasn't broken on your helicopter, it's about to.

You know that your landing gear is up and locked when it takes full power to taxi to the terminal.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2015, 09:31:52 PM »
IMO, the Piper Cub was about the best darn thing to learn in; when all else fails, let go and it'll generally fix it for you.  Plus, even bone stock, it has a pretty slow landing speed; tricked out with all the STOL toys, the darn things land at walking pace.  Once you've got it smooth in a tail dragger, you've got it.

Yeah, this is how you do it :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7u1jzjFL8s

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2015, 09:53:01 PM »
OK.   WHen I was a kid I had a model of what reportedly was a Piper Cub.   It had tricycle gear.  Maybe it was a Colt or Tripacer or something else and I am misremembering.   . . . . .  It's been 50 years so judge kindly.... :angel:


EDIT:  Looked it up on Wikipedia.   Yup, taildragger.   But if it had been refered to by an old army designation "L-4" I'd have recalled better what type of plane it was.   

Sounds like the Tri-Pacer. Basically a Cub airframe updated to tricycle gear and side-by-side seating. Pretty nice little craft, actually.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2015, 10:06:23 PM »
I'm excited about it. Found a few places i'm checking out. Gonna do a discovery flight a few places to get a feel for the places. One of whom is a freelance instructor who I really like from a "enthusiastic about flying" perspective. Airline FO building hours by teaching.
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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2015, 10:49:54 PM »



Have fun and good luck.  Robert is shoveling driveway's because there's a Helicopter Hovering Adventure for $300.00, near our house.   Includes some basic instruction then 30 minutes of Hands-on flying/hovering.




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Hell, if he's willing to sign 4 years of his life away,  He'll be absolutely *expletive deleted*ing sick of helicopters,  and all while being paid for it by the .gov

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2015, 11:38:53 PM »
Hell, if he's willing to sign 4 years of his life away,  He'll be absolutely *expletive deleted*ing sick of helicopters,  and all while being paid for it by the .gov

See your USMC recruiter.  If it sounds fun,  it won't be.

USMC, too?  I thought that the Army was the world's champeen at making intrinsically fun and cool things into a nightmare of suck.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2015, 12:17:08 AM »
No *expletive deleted*it. Only in the Army do i say things like "*expletive deleted*ck.... i have to go to the RANGE? This is gonna suck..."


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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #23 on: January 07, 2015, 12:41:52 AM »
When flying, try to stay in the middle of the air, away from the edges.

A landing is just an intentional crash.  A good landing is an intentional crash that allows you to use the aircraft again.

Watch your instructor.  If he wears a parachute, you do likewise.  If he opens his door, you open yours and jump.  When you solo, listen to your instructor.  If he says "Oh, *expletive deleted*it!" use your parachute.

And finally, those term life insurance policies are placed at the airport for a reason.

Have fun, enjoy yourself, and remind your family that you are learning to fly a plane, not how to make a helicopter shake itself to death.  They just might take comfort knowing that.

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Re: If you see a story this friday for a Cessna falling out of the sky...
« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2015, 05:01:15 AM »
I did about 8 hours with the Navy Flying Club in 1994in good old Millington, TN. I should have finished, ran out of school time, never picked it back up when I transferred. It was only like $45/hour with the instructor.  :facepalm: The instructor was pretty unflappable and pretty much let me have run of the show much sooner than the syllabus would indicate. Beyond that I have about 8 minutes time in an SH-3, which was a cool 8 minutes.
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