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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #350 on: October 09, 2017, 08:49:23 PM »
Did he really shoot himself in the back of the head with a shotgun?

Not likely, but Arkanside has happened...

At this point I assume everything on the news is to push an agenda.
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« Reply #351 on: October 09, 2017, 09:50:09 PM »
If he even had a computer...


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« Reply #352 on: October 09, 2017, 10:34:16 PM »

Unless he scrubbed all of that beforehand, or destroyed his computers, or was so paranoid that he didn't keep any incriminating favorites/bookmarks, and had his browser set to scrub all of the cookies, etc, every time he closed it.

That stuff is still around unless you bleach bit it or melt the platters.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #353 on: October 10, 2017, 11:01:58 AM »
That stuff is still around unless you bleach bit it or melt the platters.

Some truth to that. If you've ever tried to get around the WSJ or NYT paywall, you'll know what just an outsourced cloud provider can do for the dying dead-tree media. Clearing cache and cookies isn't enough. Even visiting it from a different browser on the same PC you've never used before is good enough. Never mind what the government or a really determined party in Silicon Valley could do.

There's a lot of identifying information that can be had, assuming any of the browser apps have an API in them that can reach those parts of the machine. Even if you're running from a write-protected USB boot disk with a Linux distro on it. And you use a different public IP and you spoof your MAC address.

For several years now, all Intel processors, probably others, and probably certain other things on the PC's bus and chipset have unique identifying serial numbers in them that can be queried by various applications poking certain memory registers. Mainly it was intended for trying to get some low level DRM schemes on DVD's, Blu-Ray disks, video codecs etc. But it's really useful for tracking a PC and getting it's "fingerprint" too.

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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #354 on: October 10, 2017, 04:14:36 PM »
I don't normally don the tin-foil hat and i'm not doing it now.

If this is a conspiracy then the only thing it could be trying to do is advance gun control.

The hypothetical planners went well out of their way to find someone who was almost totally neutral on politics, religion, other conspiracies, mental health issues, and any other cultural schisms. That way it could only be about EBRs and bump-stocks and the ease of getting ammo.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #355 on: October 10, 2017, 04:45:13 PM »
Even if you're running from a write-protected USB boot disk with a Linux distro on it. And you use a different public IP and you spoof your MAC address.

For several years now, all Intel processors, probably others, and probably certain other things on the PC's bus and chipset have unique identifying serial numbers in them that can be queried by various applications poking certain memory registers. Mainly it was intended for trying to get some low level DRM schemes on DVD's, Blu-Ray disks, video codecs etc. But it's really useful for tracking a PC and getting it's "fingerprint" too.

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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #356 on: October 10, 2017, 06:06:42 PM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooter-had-a-diazepam-prescription-heres-what-that-means-2017-10

He has a footprint.  Run of the mill prescription medication caused delusions and paranoia, for $1000, Alex.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #357 on: October 10, 2017, 09:00:54 PM »
Are their similar markers in a virtual machine?
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #358 on: October 10, 2017, 10:33:37 PM »
http://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooter-had-a-diazepam-prescription-heres-what-that-means-2017-10

He has a footprint.  Run of the mill prescription medication caused delusions and paranoia, for $1000, Alex.

And people wonder why I refused to use Zyban (Wellbutrin rebranded for nicotine cessation) and now refuse to use Chantix.  

Had a friend put a .45 under his chin and blow the top of his head into a stack of towels a couple weeks after starting Zyban, (The shrink our mutual employer hired afterward said no one would have seen any signs because there likely weren't any; the drug sometimes just shuts down the "catastrophically bad idea" prefilter between the subconscious and the conscious mind, and the conscious mind isn't used to actually getting thoughts like "I should just shoot myself to fix this problem.") and another who caught himself pointing a .38 at his wife a few days after starting Chantix.  (That was about a month before Carter Albrecht got himself killed during a Chantix-induced psychotic break...also an interesting anecdote against a warning shot over someone's head, especially blindly; at 6'5" Albrecht was tall enough that the warning shot was an instant kill.)

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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #359 on: October 10, 2017, 10:46:05 PM »
Stop it with the drug-talk, citizens. We must remain tightly focused on the evilz of gunz.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #360 on: October 10, 2017, 11:28:07 PM »
And people wonder why I refused to use Zyban (Wellbutrin rebranded for nicotine cessation) and now refuse to use Chantix.  

Had a friend put a .45 under his chin and blow the top of his head into a stack of towels a couple weeks after starting Zyban, (The shrink our mutual employer hired afterward said no one would have seen any signs because there likely weren't any; the drug sometimes just shuts down the "catastrophically bad idea" prefilter between the subconscious and the conscious mind, and the conscious mind isn't used to actually getting thoughts like "I should just shoot myself to fix this problem.") and another who caught himself pointing a .38 at his wife a few days after starting Chantix.  (That was about a month before Carter Albrecht got himself killed during a Chantix-induced psychotic break...also an interesting anecdote against a warning shot over someone's head, especially blindly; at 6'5" Albrecht was tall enough that the warning shot was an instant kill.)

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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #361 on: October 11, 2017, 05:10:26 AM »
Paddock's home was broken into. http://www.rgj.com/story/news/crime/2017/10/10/las-vegas-shooters-reno-home-broken-into-fbi-revisiting/750725001/
I would think his home would be on constant surveillance. ???
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #362 on: October 11, 2017, 07:17:59 AM »
That stuff is still around unless you bleach bit it or melt the platters.


I guess the difference is that social medium content can be quickly ferreted out by an inquisitive public, but taking a magnifying glass to a suspect's computer would only be done by law enforcement. That takes more time, and even then, little to no info may be released to the public.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #363 on: October 11, 2017, 10:07:59 AM »
Just heard on the news that youtube is pulling all videos on how to make a bump stock. No word on if they're banning videos of guys with their thumbs in a belt loop.

I've yet to hear any mention in the MSM on 3D printer files.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #364 on: October 11, 2017, 12:36:57 PM »
Just heard on the news that youtube is pulling all videos on how to make a bump stock.


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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #365 on: October 11, 2017, 02:31:28 PM »
I think I mentioned earlier that the brother of the shooter (Eric) is active on another board I belong to. Along with that someone here mentioned, IIRC, that there may be a familial trait of "being not quite right".

After seeing some of the things he has posted on the other board the last few days especially his interaction with both local and Federal LEO I think that may be a fair assessment, even if it is kind of broad. :(

I think if I was part of an investigation into the worst mass shooting in the USA I may just curtail my online presence for a while.



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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #366 on: October 11, 2017, 08:03:56 PM »
Just heard on the news that youtube is pulling all videos on how to make a bump stock. No word on if they're banning videos of guys with their thumbs in a belt loop.


Not really shocking. Youtube has been looking for reasons to pull anything gun related for a long time now, which is why we have Full30.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #367 on: October 11, 2017, 10:01:07 PM »
According to an article in the Daily Mail, the autopsy of Mr. Paddock showed no brain structure abnormalities.  So this does not seem to be a Charles Whitman-type scenario.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #368 on: October 11, 2017, 10:43:43 PM »
According to an article in the Daily Mail, the autopsy of Mr. Paddock showed no brain structure abnormalities.  So this does not seem to be a Charles Whitman-type scenario.

He shot himself in the head, didn't he?
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #369 on: October 11, 2017, 11:58:46 PM »
While i don't wear tinfoil, I'm guessing back of the head as wild as some of these stories are getting.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #370 on: October 12, 2017, 03:32:32 PM »
Just heard on the news that youtube is pulling all videos on how to make a bump stock. No word on if they're banning videos of guys with their thumbs in a belt loop.

I've yet to hear any mention in the MSM on 3D printer files.
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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #371 on: October 12, 2017, 03:53:15 PM »
New news out tonight, the guard was shot before he started shouting at the concert goers

No link not on my computer.

... and called hotel security.  Whether or not they called 911 quickly enough before the lines got jammed up with everyone else calling is perhaps the pertinent question.
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« Reply #372 on: October 12, 2017, 05:34:15 PM »
The maintenance guy called it in via radio about six minutes before Paddock started firing out the window ....

 I read that 911 wasn't called until he started shooting out the window ...  ???  Oddly it looks like the Security Guard was not registered in Nevada ...

What's up w/ the shooter's house being broken into ...





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« Reply #373 on: October 12, 2017, 07:51:26 PM »
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What's up w/ the shooter's house being broken into ...

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Re: Vegas strip mass shooting!
« Reply #374 on: October 15, 2017, 02:43:08 PM »
Any idea where the unregistered (ghost) (fbi plant) security guard has gone?

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