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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: Ben on October 27, 2016, 08:59:11 AM
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I think Fox is using Wikipedia again. :laugh:
http://www.foxbusiness.com/features/2016/10/26/top-guns-what-americans-are-buying.html
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Hmmm...
The most produced handgun type is the revolver, at 792,834 produced annually. But the 9mm "gauge" handgun has 1,472,528 manufactured yearly.
Why isn't the 9mm the most produced handgun rather than the revolver? I guess either "produced" doesn't mean the same as "manufactured," or "annually" doesn't mean the same as "yearly."
Or ... it's the new math again.
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I think they meant most popular brand of revolver. Even if that's the case, I have to question their choice for that as well.
Fox Business actually seems to be pretty pro gun. I just wish they would do better research.
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I just wish they would do better research.
Caught that for you. =)
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I like the 20 gauge pistol.
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Personally, I am a big fan of the .9mm. :laugh:
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I vote for 88 Magnum.
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We may all just need to accept that online journalism includes clickbait, just as print journalism includes ads for denture cream. There will still be real journalism, but buried among lots of listicles that generate revenue. And, of course, partisan hackery. But there has always been partisan hackery.
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I'm seeing more and more examples of the over- and improper use of online thesauri and dictionary entries, as well as spellcheckers.
My online TV listing gives a little précis of each program which is rife with examples of misuse of words with the same "poor online research" flavor.
The writer probably thesaurized "caliber" and one of the entries was "gauge," so he used that and patted himself on the back for his sophisticated use of gun lingo.
It's getting to the point where I would expect to hear or see screws and wire sizes referred to as .22-caliber wire and 1/4 - 20 gauge screws.
This, although I reckon 6-32 screws might properly be called a "gauge."
Oh, well, what can you act**?
Terry
* One of the spelling hints I got from a grade school teacher was that "gauge" is spelled in the order of the vowels, as in "a, e, i, o, u," not as "guage." I often end up referring to that in my head when writing about shotguns.
**http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/do
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It might be something farmed out to overseas writers who only speak Engrish not English. Or some sort of computer translation.
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It might be something farmed out to overseas writers who only speak Engrish not English. Or some sort of computer translation.
That's what I was thinking, some of this stuff is probably scripted bot-written content. I believe some of Google's news feeds and Facebook's are now automated in this way.
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* One of the spelling hints I got from a grade school teacher was that "gauge" is spelled in the order of the vowels, as in "a, e, i, o, u," not as "guage." I often end up referring to that in my head when writing about shotguns.
Sho 'nuff -- it works for "shotgun," too. a, e, i, o, u
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I like the 20 gauge pistol.
So do I. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeMat_Revolver)
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I vote for 88 Magnum.
"It shoots through schools."
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According to the The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives the number one manufactured firearm is the rifle, with 3,582,163 produced each year. Second best? Revolvers at 792,834 produced annually.
Does that include semi-auto revolvers or just revolver revolvers?
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It might be something farmed out to overseas writers who only speak Engrish not English. Or some sort of computer translation.
I can't help but be reminded of the (probably apocryphal) story of when they were first testing the computerized Russian-English translator.
The test was to input something in English, translate it to Russian, then have it translated back into English to check it.
So when they input "The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak," it came back as "The vodka is good but the steak is bad."
I actually used this technique once when I had to write a long letter to someone in Mexico who had no English. Input to Google-to-Spanish, then back to English, made some corrections, then repeated that in-out-correct-in-out process several times.
The final Spanish product came out very good, according to the answer I got back from him. Or at least according to the translation of his answer.
a e i o u kid! :D
Terry
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Personally, I am a big fan of the .9mm. :laugh:
I am reminded of an old Law & Order episode in which the police were looking for a "25mm pistol".
("and the flatbed used to haul it?" I wondered)
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I am reminded of an old Law & Order episode in which the police were looking for a "25mm pistol".
("and the flatbed used to haul it?" I wondered)
It was a potato gun.
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All this talk about guns is making me thirsty.
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I am reminded of an old Law & Order episode in which the police were looking for a "25mm pistol".
("and the flatbed used to haul it?" I wondered)
???
25mm is basically one inch. That would be a large-ish handgun, but certainly not flatbed truck large.
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44mm Magnum double-barrel automatic assault howitzer.
Brad
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???
25mm is basically one inch. That would be a large-ish handgun, but certainly not flatbed truck large.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/m242.htm
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25mm is basically one inch.
That's what she said.
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http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/systems/m242.htm
Downvote, no banana for scale.
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Overbore a bit at 26.5mm...
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi156.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft33%2FAJ_Dual%2FIMG_20131127_213704_939_zps95f8a30a.jpg&hash=0bf92c94847259fb5cb90f0b1745d3a5f4935d38) (http://s156.photobucket.com/user/AJ_Dual/media/IMG_20131127_213704_939_zps95f8a30a.jpg.html)
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I'm seeing more and more examples of the over- and improper use of online thesauri and dictionary entries, as well as spellcheckers.
My online TV listing gives a little précis of each program which is rife with examples of misuse of words with the same "poor online research" flavor.
The writer probably thesaurized "caliber" and one of the entries was "gauge," so he used that and patted himself on the back for his sophisticated use of gun lingo.
It's getting to the point where I would expect to hear or see screws and wire sizes referred to as .22-caliber wire and 1/4 - 20 gauge screws.
This, although I reckon 6-32 screws might properly be called a "gauge."
Oh, well, what can you act**?
Terry
* One of the spelling hints I got from a grade school teacher was that "gauge" is spelled in the order of the vowels, as in "a, e, i, o, u," not as "guage." I often end up referring to that in my head when writing about shotguns.
**http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/do
Well, that but also the simple fact that technical descriptions and creative descriptions are different beasts and the journalists these days seem to be more flunks from creative writing class than anything else.
You shouldn't be offering up the technical term for the thesaurus in the first place, much less altering it to "spice" things up.
Then again, maybe he did his research on the website of the Well Armed Woman, home of the .45 mm XDS. ;/ It's not like certain areas of gun culture have all that much room to talk about inaccuracy. *sigh*
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(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftruthaboutguns-zippykid.netdna-ssl.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F03%2Fremington-model-1859-9-pics_2.jpg&hash=f72cbb74ae8f42fe292e11133b837615b2404ef7)
Credit:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/03/daniel-zimmerman/5-insanely-large-caliber-handguns/
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Downvote, no banana for scale.
I smell an Imgurian.
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And speaking of fouled up nomenclature and concepts, I've been watching John Walsh's new TV outlet, the "Justice Network."
Mainly for the forensic techniques (and no, I'm not planning a crime --I'm interested in the science involved).
Anyhow, I knew Walsh was a bit "anti," but at least he never spouted off on it with his interludes involving missing children and descriptions of criminals still being hunted.
But boy, talk about the antis pulling out all the stops, he suddenly comes up with one of his interludes which was virulently anti-gun, including quite a number of technical errors and emotional appeals..
I wish I could catalog them but I was so stunned by the bullbleep I couldn't capture them in my head --at least not enough to quote accurately.
He started out with the usual "I'm a gun owner but..." and then immediately goes into a typical uninformed stream of anti gun platitudes.
(That was a direct quote.)
I tried to find a video of it with a video search, but I couldn't find one to present as evidence here. I guess it wasn't put on any of the video channels yet.
Although this may be unfair in Mr. Walsh's case, whenever I hear "I'm a gun owner but..." the image that pops into my mind is a rusty old .22 "gauge" rifle they got from their grandfather and is sitting either in the back of a closet or wrapped in a blanket up in the attic.
Somewhere.
In any case, Mr. Walsh, if this post somehow comes to your attention, I hope you will educate yourself a little better on both the technical and political aspects of firearms ownership as well as the plain English reading of the Second Amendment.
You might discover why it is the shortest and most emphatically written clause in the Constitution if you read the Preamble to the Bill of Rights.
Terry, 230RN
REF (Preamble to the U.S. Bill Of Rights, bolding mine):
Congress OF THE United States
begun and held at the City of New York, on Wednesday the Fourth of March, one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine.
THE Conventions of a number of the States having at the time of their adopting the Constitution, expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added: And as extending the ground of public confidence in the Government, will best insure the beneficent ends of its institution
RESOLVED by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled, two thirds of both Houses concurring, that the following Articles be proposed to the Legislatures of the several States, as Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, all or any of which Articles, when ratified by three fourths of the said Legislatures, to be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of the said Constitution; viz.:
ARTICLES in addition to, and Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, proposed by Congress, and ratified by the Legislatures of the several States, pursuant to the fifth Article of the original Constitution.
Repeated for truth:
...expressed a desire, in order to prevent misconstruction or abuse of its powers, that further declaratory and restrictive clauses should be added...
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Did we ever figure out the answer to this question? I'm trying to decide between a 9mm Luger, and 9mm Parabellum, so I'd really like to have some insight on this.
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Did we ever figure out the answer to this question? I'm trying to decide between a 9mm Luger, and 9mm Parabellum, so I'd really like to have some insight on this.
I recommend a 9mm NATO.
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http://herohog.com/images/guns/2bore
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I recommend a 9mm NATO.
I like 9X19 better.
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I like 9X19 better.
9mm Luger is better
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I still say the .9mm Teflon coated, armor piercing, school destroying bullets be more betterer.
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Millimeters are too small, you need something in the .354-.355 inch range.
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I enjoyed my 9mm Winchester Magnums
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2F9mmWinMagL.jpg&hash=3fb1f1cef1ebca09bc700afbf52aa737f14f4d13)
(https://armedpolitesociety.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fherohog.com%2Fimages%2Fguns%2FCompare9mms.jpg&hash=fdfcfd04f17df696bd8c1e44bf08feba2b8665b7)
and here is the page to see and compare/contrast tons of different ammo: http://herohog.com/images/guns/ammo
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Is the .38 really special? Perhaps we've been coddling it for far too long.
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Is the .38 really special? Perhaps we've been coddling it for far too long.
(It's a little deformed but we don't bring that up around it, it's just not polite)
The other .38 may be short but it's really thuper!
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"I vote for 88 Magnum."
I do too, because it shoots through schools...
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(It's a little deformed but we don't bring that up around it, it's just not polite)
The other .38 may be short but it's really thuper!
But the other other .38(0) is automatic ...
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Not shown is the .38 S&W, the wimpy BP forerunner of the rest.
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What about the .380 Magnum? Can't leave out that one.
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. 44 Browning or nothing.