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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2010, 06:22:56 PM »
Over on Twitter, one of the gangstahs mentioned a sniper rifle with a 90 round magazine. That sounds pretty good. I'd only have to load the magazine about every four range sessions. It would be heavy, but I shoot off a rest.

I'd bet the military would be interested, too. Most of their snipers would only have to load the magazine once in all their deployments combined.

I suppose they could be talking about a self-loading .223 of some sort with a Beta-C magazine, or some of the plastic one-sided snail-drums. Everything longer than a pistol, or Tec-9 style is a "sniper" to them.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2010, 06:34:57 PM »
A double-stack polymer pistol in 7.62x25 and a matching carbine that takes the same mags.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2010, 06:42:04 PM »
A new Marlin Camp 45.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2010, 06:44:26 PM »
A double-stack polymer pistol in 7.62x25 and a matching carbine that takes the same mags.

Grip diameter would just be absolutely unwieldy, unless it had an integrated magazine well, like an old Roth-Steyr, Mauser Broomhandle, or the old Grendel .380 to save every last millimeter possible.

Even a single-stack Tokarev or CZ-52 is pretty long reach.

The ballistics don't line up, but I think the new Kel-Tec PMR and the carbine that's coming out in 2011 will fit the bill otherwise.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2010, 07:10:04 PM »
Grip diameter would just be absolutely unwieldy, unless it had an integrated magazine well, like an old Roth-Steyr, Mauser Broomhandle, or the old Grendel .380 to save every last millimeter possible.

Even a single-stack Tokarev or CZ-52 is pretty long reach.

The ballistics don't line up, but I think the new Kel-Tec PMR and the carbine that's coming out in 2011 will fit the bill otherwise.
Tokarev actually made a double-stack prototype and it didn't look all that huge. The grip size isn't anything horrendous when grip panels are thin. I think it really wouldn't be any worse than the HundK pistols. The CZ-52 grip is larger than it needs to be.

Now that I think about it, a lever gun in 7.62x25 would be kinda cool, too.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2010, 07:15:08 PM »
Over on Twitter, one of the gangstahs mentioned a sniper rifle with a 90 round magazine. That sounds pretty good. I'd only have to load the magazine about every four range sessions. It would be heavy, but I shoot off a rest.

I'd bet the military would be interested, too. Most of their snipers would only have to load the magazine once in all their deployments combined.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2010, 07:24:42 PM »
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Trijicon optics that cost less than the rifles you're putting them on. (No idea if it's market premium, or it really costs that much to make them...)
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #32 on: December 20, 2010, 07:42:55 PM »
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KT has some sort of production bottleneck problem, and they're not letting it out what it is. They don't make any of their stuff fast enough to satisfy demand, save maybe the P11.

I read somewhere that it's a problem with getting enough electric power to the plant.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2010, 07:43:13 PM »
Going along the top break line of thought,  a K frame sized modern top break,  in .357 would be the cats pajamas.  

Maybe a refined Russian model?  

If they'd make it, I'd buy it.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2010, 07:51:40 PM »
The Tesla gun from Warehouse 13 and... Vera.  =D
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #35 on: December 20, 2010, 08:17:35 PM »
I'll take the M1 Carbine in 7.62x25 please.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #36 on: December 20, 2010, 09:41:02 PM »
The Thompson has been made in 10mm though it is very rare.  There have also been M1 carbine conversions to 10mm.  (Myself likes wierd 10mm's).

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #37 on: December 20, 2010, 09:53:06 PM »
BFR in .460Wby.


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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #38 on: December 20, 2010, 10:47:00 PM »
mp-412 REX
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #39 on: December 21, 2010, 07:59:30 AM »
The auto-tracking smart gun from aliens. (the steady cam harness gun)

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #40 on: December 21, 2010, 09:41:10 AM »
M1 carbine in 10mm.   [popcorn]



M1 Carbine in 10mm Magnum.

http://www.sixguns.com/tests/tt10mag.htm

Yes it a rare cartridge, but cool non the less.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #41 on: December 21, 2010, 10:15:42 AM »
I read somewhere that it's a problem with getting enough electric power to the plant.

That's been my theory, I can't remember where I heard it though.

First it was "We're building the new warehouse/expanded shop floor and getting new machines" then the bottlenecks continued.

My wild speculation is that there was some sort of miscommunication or assumption they had enough 440v service to power all the new CNC machines, and they do not. And then they thought that the utility co would bring it in, but wants them to pay for something outrageous, like a few miles of power lines or a sub-station or whatever and they're at an impasse over it.

Second one is that George Kelgren's divorce his wife had something like 50% of the company, and is holding up capital investments or some such thing.

Anybody good at looking up Florida court documents for any civil issues with KT or Kelgren vs. a real-estate agent (misrepresentation of the land and services), or the utility co?



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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #42 on: December 21, 2010, 10:23:33 AM »
Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.

I'd like an M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm and takes XD mags.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #43 on: December 21, 2010, 10:25:56 AM »
Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.

I'd like an M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm and takes XD mags.

How about .45Winmag?
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #44 on: December 21, 2010, 10:33:30 AM »
I saw another one on Twitter that would be interesting. It was a 34 gauge assault rifle. It would be a real man-stopper, but you'd need to buy Pachmyr deceleration pads by the case. ;)

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #45 on: December 21, 2010, 12:22:18 PM »
How about a scope with cross hairs that don't wobble ?   :lol:
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #46 on: December 21, 2010, 12:39:19 PM »
I saw another one on Twitter that would be interesting. It was a 34 gauge assault rifle. It would be a real man-stopper, but you'd need to buy Pachmyr deceleration pads by the case. ;)

Are you sure it was 34 gauge? That would actually be fairly mid size.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #47 on: December 21, 2010, 12:44:37 PM »
Are you sure it was 34 gauge? That would actually be fairly mid size.

Approximately .51" in diamter.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #48 on: December 21, 2010, 12:46:24 PM »
Hezi carbine.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #49 on: December 21, 2010, 01:13:18 PM »
An accurate mini-14  :lol:
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