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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #50 on: December 21, 2010, 02:10:38 PM »
Hezi carbine.

M1 Carbines cheap enough to be willing to make a Hezi.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2010, 02:17:02 PM »
How about a commercially made DeLisle carbine?
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2010, 02:39:45 PM »
I saw another one on Twitter that would be interesting. It was a 34 gauge assault rifle. It would be a real man-stopper, but you'd need to buy Pachmyr deceleration pads by the case. ;)

I shot a 9mm shotgun one time, I think a airgun has more recoil. Its a little rimfire cartridge.

I also shot a 8 guage slug gun, that kicks a wee bit.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #53 on: December 21, 2010, 02:50:28 PM »
How about a 3"-4" 5-shot k-frame sized 41Special, firing a 200gr-215gr SWC or HP at about 900-1000fps.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #54 on: December 21, 2010, 03:12:51 PM »
Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.

I'd like an M1 Carbine chambered in 9mm and takes XD mags.

Win!  Actually, make that .40.

How about an M1 Carbine with cartridge conversion kits?

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #55 on: December 21, 2010, 03:14:56 PM »
How about a commercially made DeLisle carbine?

Been done, and I wouldn't mind having one.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #56 on: December 21, 2010, 04:15:25 PM »
I feel like it should be possible to make a 3-4 shot J-frame in .45ACP.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #57 on: December 21, 2010, 04:20:29 PM »
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Been done, and I wouldn't mind having one.
I'd heard of an outfit that makes them, but I was thinking more like being able to go to the nearest Sportsman's Warehouse and being able to pick one up kind of commercial gun. :cool:
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #58 on: December 21, 2010, 04:26:18 PM »
*adds another one to the M1 Carbine list*

A true M1 Carbine (NOT a mini-14!) in .223 whose only modification is a lengthened receiver with suitable magazine well so it could use STANAG magazines. This one is on my to-do list when I finally get a proper shop with a lathe and mill.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #59 on: December 21, 2010, 04:44:28 PM »
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Seems that the M1 Carbine chambered in anything EXCEPT .30 carbine is on everyone's list.

I don't own an M1 Carbine but if I did I wouldn't hesitate to load it with soft points and use it for self defense.  I want one in .357 just because there are so many different loads out there from 125 gr all the way up to 180 gr.  I've never walked into a place selling ammo that didn't have some sort of .38/.357 on the shelf but I have seen places that didn't have any .30 ammo.

I also want a 1911 in .357.  I think Coonan Arms used to make one rim lock was probably a problem.

What I really need is to plunk down some money on a cowboy assault rifle but school, my motorcycle and my ever growing bicycle collection have been sucking up my spare cash.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #60 on: December 21, 2010, 08:56:49 PM »
I also want a 1911 in .357.  I think Coonan Arms used to make one rim lock was probably a problem.
They are making them again.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #61 on: December 21, 2010, 09:17:04 PM »
They are making them again.

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

They're making them, or just advertising them?

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #62 on: December 21, 2010, 09:18:33 PM »
I feel like it should be possible to make a 3-4 shot J-frame in .45ACP.

A 5 shot J-frame equivalent in .40.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #63 on: December 21, 2010, 10:58:35 PM »
They're making them, or just advertising them?

A guy on a local gun board shot a prototype after running into testers at the range two days ago. They do exist.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2010, 09:18:23 AM »
They are making them again.

http://www.coonaninc.com/index.php/cPath,5

I wonder if they'll have the conversion kit to fire .38SPL like the old ones did....could make for an interesting IDPA gun....
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #65 on: December 22, 2010, 09:26:34 AM »
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I wonder if they'll have the conversion kit to fire .38SPL like the old ones did....could make for an interesting IDPA gun....

Why not a .38 Super instead... oops, stupid question :facepalm:
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #66 on: December 22, 2010, 09:44:21 AM »
Why not a .38 Super instead... oops, stupid question :facepalm:

A 1911 in .38 Super?....that'll never catch on....  ;/







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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #67 on: December 22, 2010, 09:51:48 AM »
The Magpul FMG/AFG.

They are absolute bastards for showing that thing off at SHOT two years ago and then never producing it.  =(

That would ABSOLUTELY get me off my kiester to take the NFA plunge.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #68 on: December 22, 2010, 04:58:30 PM »
I don't really have the money for any NFA toys. If they were more accessible I would really want a .22 of some sort so I would have at least a marginal ability to feed it. Maybe an American 180.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #69 on: December 22, 2010, 05:58:08 PM »
I'm just talking about getting the FMG/AFG under the SBR category, and paying the $200 for that.

Since the AFG/FMG needs a Glock slide and barrel to function, it would be a SBR only. There are no transferable Glock 18's I believe, or if there are, there's only like one or two in all of the US. Perhaps a handful of the "magic switch" slide backplates were registered. Either way, if they even exist, they all cost six figures I'm sure.

They only had two years from Glock's market introduction to the MG freeze poison pill amendment in the '86 FOPA. So if you ever do see an FA Glock, it's a SOT sample I'm sure.

I do want to get a .22 suppressor, and get a stock and SBR my Draco AK pistol into a pseudo-Krinkov of sorts though.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #70 on: December 23, 2010, 12:12:11 AM »
I wonder if they'll have the conversion kit to fire .38SPL like the old ones did....could make for an interesting IDPA gun....

I met a guy at my gun club a couple of years ago that had a factory Colt 1911 chamberd in .38 Special. The gun was fitted out with a Bomar rib sight set up and was a very nice pistol. Guy claimed he had been on the USAF pistol team, I found no reason to doubt him.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #71 on: December 23, 2010, 09:13:33 AM »
I have no problem with the M1 Carbine in .30; I have a reliable National Postal Meter as my primary home defense rifle.  I still think 7.62x25 would be a fun alternative.

I agree about the design being carried over more directly to  .223, but I would think that AK-style mags would be easier to adapt to the receiver.
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #72 on: December 23, 2010, 09:16:47 AM »
An Ithaca model 49-r* that wasn't a jam-o-matic.

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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #73 on: December 23, 2010, 09:43:15 AM »
Another want:
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Re: The Guns That Never Were....
« Reply #74 on: December 23, 2010, 10:08:34 AM »
I have no problem with the M1 Carbine in .30; I have a reliable National Postal Meter as my primary home defense rifle.  I still think 7.62x25 would be a fun alternative.

I agree about the design being carried over more directly to  .223, but I would think that AK-style mags would be easier to adapt to the receiver.

I don't know that it would be easier, since you'd be making a larger/longer receiver from scratch anyway, but it certainly would be cheaper, because .223 using AR mags would require a slide in magwell extension. Which means a bigger more complex forging... LOL who am I kidding. I mean CASTING.

The M1 pretty much uses slide in style now, but that's for the much more diminutive magazine, and the release is centerline more like an AK or a FAL's.  I agree the "rock in" AK style would certainly be easier, and keep the more correct m1 profile.
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