Post by: GingerGuy on September 03, 2008, 02:28:59 AM
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So tonight, I ask you whether you are an Independent, a Reagan Democrat or a Clinton Democrat, or just a Democrat: This year, when you vote for President, vote for the person you believe is best for the country, not for the party you happen to belong to.
Post by: Standing Wolf on September 03, 2008, 03:56:59 AM
Post by: grampster on September 03, 2008, 04:47:26 AM
Post by: longeyes on September 03, 2008, 08:28:26 AM
(Don't ask me how I know.)
Post by: Headless Thompson Gunner on September 03, 2008, 08:49:40 AM
Post by: AJ Dual on September 03, 2008, 09:24:13 AM
How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?
The exact same way that McCain being a "maverick" has paid off for him.
Post by: Marvin Dao on September 03, 2008, 09:28:23 AM
How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?
Because it's not his party. He's officially independent. The arrangement he has with the Dems maintains his seniority and gives him the chair to the Governmental Affairs Committee in exchange for voting the party line on all procedural issues. The reasoning goes that Lieberman is only valuable to the Dems right now since he's the 51st vote they need to maintain control of the Senate. Since every projection have the Dems taking enough seats to control the Senate without Lieberman, but not enough to need him to maintain a filibuster proof majority, they'll be free to end their arrangement and revoke his seniority after the elections this year.
Given that he has no long term future in the Democratic party, a McCain victory and a cabinet appointment is one of the few ways his political career can continue.
Post by: peteinct on September 04, 2008, 03:45:12 PM
Not that I voted for him, though
pete
Post by: Antibubba on September 04, 2008, 05:53:35 PM
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Little Joey Lieberman has never thought about anybody but little Joey Lieberman in his life.
And I have no problem with the GOP using that.
Post by: Balog on September 04, 2008, 07:39:15 PM
think his support for the warcost him a lot politically and i he was really thast big of a weasel he could have renounced it.
What?
Post by: K Frame on September 04, 2008, 07:44:37 PM
How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?
Lieberman hasn't been a Democrat for several years. He's officially listed as an independent Democrat. The Democrats were pissed at him and managed to get him ousted from the primary ticket in 2006, partially over his defense of the Iraq war and opposition to Democratic amendments designed to force troop withdrawals. He then ran for Congress as an independent and wiped the floor with both candidates. Post by: longeyes on September 04, 2008, 07:54:33 PM
Post by: Matthew Carberry on September 04, 2008, 10:52:29 PM
When you can't tell who what party wrote a piece of legislation by reading it, you know that the "center" has gotten far too big.
Post by: peteinct on September 05, 2008, 05:07:54 AM
To go to the republicans to try to salvage the rest of his career is a little off putting but the Democratic Party at least here is solidly anti -war.
pete
Post by: Tallpine on September 06, 2008, 06:12:59 AM
How does pissing off his own party advance Lieberman's political prospects?
Lieberman hasn't been a Democrat for several years. He's officially listed as an independent Democrat. The Democrats were pissed at him and managed to get him ousted from the primary ticket in 2006, partially over his defense of the Iraq war and opposition to Democratic amendments designed to force troop withdrawals. He then ran for Congress as an independent and wiped the floor with both candidates. So, for the lack of Lieberman's support the Democratically controlled Senate and House were unable to throw a lasso over Bush and stop the Iraq war
Whatever your views on the war, this is one reason I have no use for the Democrats. They ran on an "anti-war" platform in 2006 and then did absolutely nothing (except bellyache) for two years despite having a majority in Congress. Now they want us to vote for Obama so that he will "end the war"
Post by: K Frame on September 06, 2008, 07:09:03 AM
Did I say that?
No, I didn't.
I responded to a statement regarding Lieberman's party affiliation and provided FACTUAL information as to why Lieberman was stripped of his party's support in the 2006 primary election.
Post by: grampster on September 06, 2008, 07:15:06 AM
Post by: Tallpine on September 06, 2008, 07:52:14 AM
"So, for the lack of Lieberman's support the Democratically controlled Senate and House were unable to throw a lasso over Bush and stop the Iraq war"
Did I say that?
No, I didn't.
I responded to a statement regarding Lieberman's party affiliation and provided FACTUAL information as to why Lieberman was stripped of his party's support in the 2006 primary election.
Did I say that?
No, I didn't.
I responded to a statement regarding Lieberman's party affiliation and provided FACTUAL information as to why Lieberman was stripped of his party's support in the 2006 primary election.
Down, Mike, down. Easy boy, easy....
I was picking on the Democrats, not you
Are you part Belgian Malinois
Post by: peteinct on September 06, 2008, 08:51:26 AM
Post by: Waitone on September 07, 2008, 02:50:21 AM
Post by: K Frame on September 07, 2008, 08:24:28 PM
Kangal.