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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #51 on: November 08, 2013, 11:10:45 AM »
G&A editor resigns.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/us/guns--ammo-editor-resigns-after-gun-control-column/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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Plans were already in place for a new editor to take over the magazine on January 1, but that new editor, Eric R. Poole, who ran Guns & Ammo's special interest publications, was installed immediately, Bequette said.


I would desire him to lose a bit more than just starting his vacation a little early. Maybe he could get a job at the Violence Policy Center.
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Heh. heheh. LMAO.
« Reply #52 on: November 08, 2013, 07:23:42 PM »
Metcalf can just go join Zumbo and serve as a horrible warning.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/11/08/shakeup-at-guns-ammo-after-gun-control-editorial-backfires/

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« Reply #53 on: November 08, 2013, 07:45:55 PM »
Maybe he'll advocate a 16 hour class before he can write an editorial.
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« Reply #54 on: November 08, 2013, 08:42:08 PM »
Maybe he'll advocate a 16 hour class before he can write an editorial.

Only if it's a "good" class.
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« Reply #55 on: November 08, 2013, 08:42:24 PM »
Why does Fox bother to get a quote from an Antigun group?  It's not like they are readers of the magazine.  

I take that back, it as more of an ad for the anti gun group. 
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #57 on: November 08, 2013, 08:49:57 PM »
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How do I feel about that? Disappointed. If a respected editor can be forced to resign and a controversial writer's voice be shut down by a one-sided social-media and internet outcry, virtually overnight, simply because they dared to open a discussion or ask questions about a politically sensitive issue . . . then I fear for the future of our industry, and for our Cause. Do not 2nd Amendment adherents also believe in Freedom of Speech? Do Americans now fear open and honest discussion of different opinions about important Constitutional issues? Do voices from cyberspace now control how and why business decisions are made?
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #58 on: November 08, 2013, 09:06:55 PM »
If he wanted to discuss ideas, there are better ways to do it. 
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #59 on: November 08, 2013, 09:12:17 PM »
Freedom of Speech =/= Freedom from Criticism.
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #60 on: November 08, 2013, 09:14:22 PM »
Metcalf should read the 1st Amendment again. 
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #61 on: November 08, 2013, 09:29:10 PM »
Metcalf should read the 1st Amendment again. 

....and read a little about the concepts of personal responsibility and the free market economy....

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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #62 on: November 08, 2013, 09:42:29 PM »
he prolly had a week or more to write his column, and the editor must of had the copy for a month.
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #63 on: November 08, 2013, 09:47:16 PM »
Metcalf should read the 1st Amendment again. 

Not until after he's taken a 16 hour training class to demonstrate that he can read responsibly.
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« Reply #64 on: November 08, 2013, 10:00:16 PM »
First I heard of this was today.  Just saw the other thread,  so feel free to nuke this as a duplicate.

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« Reply #65 on: November 08, 2013, 11:19:56 PM »
I think Zumbo, Tsai, and Metcalf should all go in on a new gun magazine together.

It would have seven pages, and only be sold in New York, California, and New Jersey.
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #66 on: November 08, 2013, 11:58:23 PM »
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How do I feel about that? Disappointed. If a respected editor can be forced to resign and a controversial writer's voice be shut down by a one-sided social-media and internet outcry, virtually overnight, simply because they dared to open a discussion or ask questions about a politically sensitive issue . . . then I fear for the future of our industry, and for our Cause. Do not 2nd Amendment adherents also believe in Freedom of Speech? Do Americans now fear open and honest discussion of different opinions about important Constitutional issues? Do voices from cyberspace now control how and why business decisions are made?

Of course we believe in freedom of speech. It was freedom of speech that got your lame a$$ canned ya farking moron.  :rofl:
Personally, I do not understand how a bunch of people demanding a bigger govt can call themselves anarchist.
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #67 on: November 09, 2013, 12:13:39 AM »
Metcalf should read the 1st Amendment again. 


....and read a little about the concepts of personal responsibility and the free market economy....


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« Reply #68 on: November 09, 2013, 12:17:15 AM »
I think Zumbo, Tsai, and Metcalf should all go in on a new gun magazine together.

It would have seven pages, and only be sold in New York, California, and New Jersey.


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« Reply #69 on: November 09, 2013, 02:51:04 AM »
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2013, 07:27:08 AM »
Way to double down on the stupid
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2013, 08:16:41 AM »
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2013, 08:16:48 AM »
Here, lemme answer his four questions:

1. If you believe the 2nd Amendment should be subject to no regulation at all, do you therefore believe all laws prohibiting convicted violent repeat criminals from having guns are unconstitutional? Should all such laws be repealed?  

Yes, yes, and yes.   It's a whole other can of worms, but basically if you can't be trusted to be a good member of society, you shouldn't have been released from jail anyway.

2. Do you also believe all laws establishing concealed-carry licenses are unconstitutional?

Yes

3. Do you have a concealed-carry license anyway?

Yes

4. Are you thereby violating the Constitution yourself?

No, because I'm not the government, dumbass
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2013, 09:09:08 AM »
I can't figure out if he really doesn't understand the difference between "regulate" and "infringe," or if he's just being obtuse.

Also:
http://www.guns.com/2013/11/08/guns-ammo-wrong-fire-editor-dick-metcalf-editorial-2a-limitations-video/
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Re: Guns and ammo column: Dick Metcalf thinks Illinois training is reasonable
« Reply #74 on: November 09, 2013, 05:41:24 PM »
Metcalf should read the 1st Amendment again. 

Metcalf should read the dictionary again.

Regulation is not "by definition" infringement? It sure is by any definitions I've found for the two words. I want to know what dictionary he's using.
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