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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #75 on: August 26, 2020, 08:40:48 PM »
That didn't last long. YouTube has taken it down already. It must not fit the narrative.

It's there, just behind a content warning you have to click on.
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #76 on: August 26, 2020, 10:17:34 PM »
Currently up but behind 2 warnings.

If what we see in the video is most of the story I see self defense.
We don't know what instigated the initial chase where the first decedent was trying to attack the shooter.
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #77 on: August 26, 2020, 10:49:47 PM »
It's there, just behind a content warning you have to click on.

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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #78 on: August 26, 2020, 10:51:31 PM »
You have to sign in.   

I'm logged in automatically on my computers so I didn't see that step
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #79 on: August 26, 2020, 11:09:19 PM »
Another night of protests
Never mind he had a knife

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXU8pQ5Uqic
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #80 on: August 27, 2020, 07:23:29 AM »
The kid's fault was in being there at all. I haven't been able to figure out who started what against whom but one thing seems clear -- if this kid had stayed home in Antioch, IL, he wouldn't now be in jail facing multiple felony charges. The problem is (IMHO), too many of these protesters don't quite understand that life isn't a video game. You don't get resets, you don't get do-overs, and your actions have consequences.

He can be wherever he wants. As far as we know, he didn't stick a rifle to their heads and say attack me. They chose to do that. This is like blaming the people in Texas who killed the attempted terrorist when they were holding the draw Muhammad contest.

We expect our police to have at at least some training in handling situations like this don't we? Don't we criticize them when they don't have proper training? At the very least to know how to to react. How much preparation did this kid have?

I'm not saying he's at fault I'm just saying, actually asking, if his, i guess you could say inexperience, factored into this? Could a more experienced/trained person defused the situation? As i said I don't know. I DON'T KNOW

I would say he defused the situation quite well.
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #81 on: August 27, 2020, 09:16:59 AM »
He can be wherever he wants. As far as we know, he didn't stick a rifle to their heads and say attack me. They chose to do that. This is like blaming the people in Texas who killed the attempted terrorist when they were holding the draw Muhammad contest.

I would say he defused the situation quite well.
I hate to say it but sometimes bad people getting shot is the best outcome. 

We have seen all sorts of people trying to do things to stop these mobs.  Violence is the only thing I have seen that really works.
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #82 on: August 27, 2020, 09:38:42 AM »
He can be wherever he wants.

Wasn't there a curfew?
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #83 on: August 27, 2020, 10:11:23 AM »
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #84 on: August 27, 2020, 10:20:23 AM »
I hate to say it but sometimes bad people getting shot is the best outcome. 

We have seen all sorts of people trying to do things to stop these mobs.  Violence is the only thing I have seen that really works.

As much as I hate anyone getting shot sometimes it's the only thing that will get the ball rolling in the other direction.
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #85 on: August 27, 2020, 10:29:58 AM »
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #86 on: August 27, 2020, 10:31:38 AM »
I have no idea who wrote this

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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #87 on: August 27, 2020, 10:56:29 AM »
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There are criminals among us who are both homicidal and incorrigible. Their parents took a shot at civilizing them and failed. Their school teachers took a shot at them and failed. The odds are overwhelming that government welfare programs and penal institutions took a shot at them and failed. If it ever becomes your turn to take a shot at them, don’t fail.

I think it's safe to say a lot of parents and teachers are actively refusing to civilize the children in their care. Bestializing them, more like.
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #88 on: August 27, 2020, 11:01:21 AM »
I think it's safe to say a lot of parents and teachers are actively refusing to civilize the children in their care. Bestializing them, more like.

I think the saying is from a different time.  From a time when parents were actually parents and teachers were teachers and not indoctrinators.
Point still stand though
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #89 on: August 27, 2020, 11:14:12 AM »
"I'm a foolish old man that has been drawn into a wild goose chase by a harpy in trousers and a nincompoop."

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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #91 on: August 27, 2020, 11:29:09 AM »
As to the other guy in this

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   I wonder why a deranged white nationalist Trump supporter would show up to a protest with a rifle and start shooting people. https://t.co/gL1zpgj8J2

    — Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) August 26, 2020

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   A 17 year old white supremacist domestic terrorist drove across state lines, armed with an AR 15.

    He shot and killed 2 people who had assembled to affirm the value, dignity, and worth of Black lives.

    Fix your damn headlines.

    — Ayanna Pressley (@AyannaPressley) August 27, 2020
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/08/27/fix-your-damn-headlines-dem-rep-ayanna-pressley-explains-that-white-supremacist-domestic-terrorist-kyle-rittenhouse-killed-two-life-affirming-blm-protesters/
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #92 on: August 27, 2020, 12:01:58 PM »
So a white supremacist shows up at a BLM protest and shoots three white guys?

Sounds legit.

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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #93 on: August 27, 2020, 12:21:25 PM »
They're not done by a long shot. There's plenty more stupid where that came from

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   At this moment, conservative media figures are crafting a narrative that black people attempting to disarm a white vigilante who was (1) illegally brandishing an assault weapon after (2) shooting someone in the head *deserved to get shot.*

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He continues from there

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/08/27/slate-hack-accusing-conservatives-of-crafting-a-narrative-about-kyle-rittenhouse-is-just-straight-up-lying-and-race-baiting/
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2020, 12:23:25 PM »
I think the saying is from a different time.  From a time when parents were actually parents and teachers were teachers and not indoctrinators.
Point still stand though
Legally, I don't know if the teachers are allowed to do that if they wanted to. 
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #95 on: August 27, 2020, 02:38:19 PM »
The 2020 live action version of Red Dawn is pretty interesting
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #96 on: August 27, 2020, 03:40:14 PM »
Legally, I don't know if the teachers are allowed to do that if they wanted to. 

In my 31st year of teaching and I pride myself on teaching how to think, not what to think.  Please don't gloss the profession with such a flawed broad brush

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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #97 on: August 27, 2020, 03:55:02 PM »
In my 31st year of teaching and I pride myself on teaching how to think, not what to think.  Please don't gloss the profession with such a flawed broad brush

My observations lead me to believe teachers of your persuasion are an endangered species.
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #98 on: August 27, 2020, 04:41:21 PM »
So in the court of social media, the kid has been deemed a "mass murderer".

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"We’ve designated this shooting as a mass murder and have removed the shooter’s accounts from Facebook and Instagram," the spokesperson said in a statement. "At this time, we have not found evidence on Facebook that suggests the shooter followed the Kenosha Guard Page or that he was invited on the Event Page they organized."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/facebook-kenosha-guard-militia-vigilantes-kyle-rittenhouse
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Re: Live feed of protests from kenosha
« Reply #99 on: August 27, 2020, 04:56:15 PM »
The narrative is settled
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