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Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« on: September 21, 2010, 07:01:07 PM »
Bill Clinton was on CBS with George Stephenapolous (sp?) talking about Haiti, Obama and, interestingly enough, Sarah Palin. He didn't resort to any digs at her, which wasn't surprising, as that's Obama's style, not Clinton's. What was surprising was the positive things he had to say. Of course, we can all guess as to what he meant when he referred to her as "an attractive figure". ;)

Video here . The Palin comments start at the 5 minute mark.

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2010, 07:03:19 PM »
I wonder if the Clintons are making a few small movements towards distancing themselves from Obama.

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2010, 10:53:44 PM »
I wonder if the Clintons are making a few small movements towards distancing themselves from Obama.
They're not making small movements any more.  Hillary basically declared her independence and opposition to Barry a few weeks ago. 

Lemme see if I can dig it up...

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But she [Hillary] again stressed the corrosive effect of the mounting U.S. debt, which she said threatened the United States' ability to chart its own course in the world and sends "a message of weakness internationally."

"It poses a national security threat in two ways: it undermines our capacity to act in our own interest, and it does constrain us where constraint may be undesirable," Clinton said in response to a question after her address to the Council on Foreign Relations think tank.

The Clinton's never do anything accidentally.  (Well, maybe Billy Jeff's zipper does things neither of them intends, but their political moves are always very deliberate and very intentional.)  When you're a member of the President's cabinet, you never take shots at the boss, and you absolutely never aim your shots at his two most vulnerable positions.  Yet Hillary did exactly that, hitting Obama right where he's weakest, on deficits and national security.

This tells me two things about Hillary.  First, she's in semi-open rebellion.  Second, Barry is either too weak or too incompetent to do anything about it. 

And on the weak/incompetent front, I recall that the generals recently stripped Barry of control over the Afghanistan war, his top adviser is bailing out to become dictator for life of Chicago (known locally as "the mayor"), and a number of his key economic advisers are jumping ship as well.

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2010, 10:57:01 PM »
I recall that the generals recently stripped Barry of control over the Afghanistan war,

How so?
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2010, 10:57:57 PM »
I have a hunch he won't run for reelection.  It was reported somewhere (and later denied by Mrs. Obama) that Mrs. Obama does not like being first lady.
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2010, 11:01:36 PM »
How so?
The McChrystal flap.  Petraues now seems to be fully in charge of war policy in Astan.  Not just commander, but overall policy setter.  Barry's timetables and whatnot went out the window the moment Petraeus took over.
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2010, 11:43:48 PM »
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2010, 11:58:35 PM »
While I was against Obama for president with all my being I have to admit, he is far less substantial and far worse than I feared.

The unreported story (for now) is the train wreck of the Obama presidency.
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2010, 12:03:52 AM »
While I was against Obama for president with all my being I have to admit, he is far less substantial and far worse than I feared.

The unreported story (for now) is the train wreck of the Obama presidency.

Well, we still have a trillion dollar (to start with) health care monstrosity that Republicans won't be able to repeal even if they take the house and senate. We have the government controlling private businesses, setting salaries, deciding bankruptcy cases, siphoning money to political allies, and generally spending the country into insolvency. I'd say he's been pretty substantial. Then there's the possibility that he, Pelosi and Reid will use the lame duck session after the elections to ram through the remaining items on Obama's agenda.

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2010, 12:12:49 AM »
Well, we still have a trillion dollar (to start with) health care monstrosity that Republicans won't be able to repeal even if they take the house and senate. We have the government controlling private businesses, setting salaries, deciding bankruptcy cases, siphoning money to political allies, and generally spending the country into insolvency. I'd say he's been pretty substantial. Then there's the possibility that he, Pelosi and Reid will use the lame duck session after the elections to ram through the remaining items on Obama's agenda.

By substantial I meant actually influencing the public to follow him and his philosophy.

What we are enduring is the raw exercise of power regardless of public opinion.

The only silver lining in this storm cloud is the left always over plays its hand (mixed metaphor alert!)
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2010, 12:18:53 AM »
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The only silver lining in this storm cloud is the left always over plays its hand (mixed metaphor alert!)

Except in this case they have it locked up, IMHO.

Even if they lose in November, they win with a lame duck Congress (which will be anything but "lame" when it come to what they will pass...and you thought the healthcare and bailout BS was audacious...)

And I believe that the Dems are smart enough to realize that even if they lose power in both the Executive and Legislative branch in the near future, they will be back in before too many years pass to continue their agenda (meanwhile, the RHINOs will keep the seats warm for them).

We've attributed the Dem's actions to stupidity. I think that's a mistake. Personally, I think they are smart but obviously march to the beat of a different drummer...they are smart enough to realize they can get what they want if they wait for and use the right opportunities.


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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2010, 05:49:06 AM »
I wonder if the Clintons are making a few small movements towards distancing themselves from Obama.

Hillary's campaign for 2012 started a few minutes after she took the SecState job....and Bill's been keeping a high profile so he can remind everyone of the "Clinton Camelot" of the '90s (probably in return for a SCOTUS appointment when she wins)....

...but I wouldn't be suprised if Bill buys Sarah a blue dress, either....
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2010, 10:14:47 AM »
The Clintons were always big on "triangulation", trying to corner both the Left and the Right. Probably because of how they came out of Arkansas politics, where there was a strong southern social conservative streak which trended right, but lots of poverty, which pushes left, and packaging it up in the fading tradition of the Southern Democrats, but without the racial component to it.

In practice they were careful to be talking a good centrist/moderate game, but unlike most Democrats/Libs who all give that lip-service, their strategy also included actually being wise enough to throw in a few conservative tidbits, like going along with welfare reform, hoping it would make the more progressive bits of their policy, like tax hikes and socialized medicine more palatable. The other component was the Clintons CONSTANTLY had a wet finger in the wind to see which way it was blowing.

And Clinton's kind words for Palin is just more of that. And because of the relative peace and prosperity of the 90's, Clinton is doing minor positioning to see if he can get his administration and Hillary associated with the 'good old days', hoping a return to those good times can be linked to the Tea Party's grievances now.
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2010, 10:49:25 AM »
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...being wise enough to throw in a few conservative tidbits, like going along with welfare reform...

As I recall, Clinton had to be brought to the table kicking and screaming on that, until Dick Morris convinced him it was popular.

It's also possible Clinton said good things about Palin while thinking that she would be an easy opponent for Hillary.

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2010, 12:17:51 PM »
It's also possible Clinton said good things about Palin while thinking that she would be an easy opponent for Hillary.

Yeah, I can imagine what BJ Clinton's thinkin about Sarah as opposed to Hilary  ;)
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2010, 02:16:10 PM »
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Yeah, I can imagine what BJ Clinton's thinkin about Sarah as opposed to Hilary.

Uh, yeah.





It's interesting that, in searching for images of the two women, there are hundreds of really sexually degrading photos of Palin on Google Images, but I only found one of Hillary, and it wasn't even that degrading.

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2010, 03:48:32 PM »
Yeah, I can imagine what BJ Clinton's thinkin about Sarah as opposed to Hilary  ;)

Yeah, I'll admit to thinking along the same lines.  Upon reading the thread title, "Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin", my reaction was "in his dreams" :P

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2010, 05:01:44 PM »
How about a Palin/O'Donnell ticket in 2012 ?   =D
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2010, 08:53:16 PM »
The reason you find more people providing sexually-themed phoshops of Palin than Hillary should be self-evident: Not only is Palin physically a younger-looking, more attractive person, but she is also more sympathetic in her behavior than Hillary. Subconsciously, some individuals expect people who are more outgoing and personable to be more sexually open. They're wrong, but that's a different issue.

The fact a parody porn movie has been made with an actress playing Palin no doubt also contributes.
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2010, 10:47:30 PM »
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The reason you find more people providing sexually-themed phoshops of Palin than Hillary should be self-evident: Not only is Palin physically a younger-looking, more attractive person, but she is also more sympathetic in her behavior than Hillary. Subconsciously, some individuals expect people who are more outgoing and personable to be more sexually open. They're wrong, but that's a different issue.

Thanks for the insight, MicroBalrog. All along I thought the attraction was because I was fed rutabaga as a child. ;)

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2010, 10:55:22 PM »
We call it Rutabeggy here in Meegigun. =D
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2010, 11:29:06 PM »
The fact a parody porn movie has been made with an actress playing Palin no doubt also contributes.

OK, if that was not really her, I want my money back.  :mad:
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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2010, 11:36:08 PM »
OK, if that was not really her, I want my money back.  :mad:

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Re: Bill Clinton on Sarah Palin; A Bit of a Surprise
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2010, 11:48:19 PM »
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You gullible fool...you actually paid money for porn!?

Palin porn is pricey.