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Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« on: September 27, 2010, 11:50:30 PM »
I think Noonan had an interesting piece last week.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703384204575510283851292698.html

The highlights:

Democrats are exhausted, Republicans are livid

Voters are informed in ways not previously possible

The predominance of women, in rebellion against Washington

2010 will be a deeper, more meaningful political shift than 1994


And the previous week was an interesting take on the American state of mind, and the Tea Party.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703440604575496221482123504.html?mod=WSJ_article_RecentColumns_Declarations

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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2010, 11:57:19 PM »
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2010 will be a deeper, more meaningful political shift than 1994

I ain't gonna hold my breath.
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2010, 12:08:54 AM »
2010 will be a deeper, more meaningful political shift than 1994.

I ain't gonna hold my breath.

Me, neither.
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2010, 12:12:26 AM »
...2010 will be a deeper, more meaningful political shift than 1994...
I hope so too, but like others have said, I'm not holding my breath.

I will, however, be voting. >:D
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2010, 12:12:32 AM »
Hey, I'm with you guys. But a fella can dream, can he not?
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2010, 12:14:02 AM »
Hey, I'm with you guys. But a fella can dream, can he not?
Sure.  But dreams have a bad way of turning into nightmares..........
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2010, 11:58:18 AM »
I give Noonan and the rest of the East Coast "conservative" commentariat the back of my hand these days as the rubes they are.  "Oh, I like Obama's temperament and I'll vote Democrat.  That Palin woman went to a state school, after all!"
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2010, 12:46:23 PM »
I will, however, be voting. >:D
Me, too. Early and often.  =D

I hope there are enough "Tea Party" candidates elected to keep the GOP patricians from steering the party back to the left and trying to govern as "Democrat Lite" . . .

Again.  :facepalm:
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2010, 12:58:42 PM »
Hey, I'm with you guys. But a fella can dream, can he not?

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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2010, 01:29:17 PM »
Somewhere at the far side of the rainbow is Libertopia.

Where troubles melt like lemon drops high above the chimney tops  =)
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2010, 03:59:45 AM »
Where troubles melt like lemon drops high above the chimney tops  =)

I thought it was "Where Unicorns poop skittles......"
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2010, 10:58:08 AM »
Never did like Peggy Noonan. Her voice and manner grates on me, and her endorsement of Obama was the final straw.

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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2010, 12:09:17 PM »
Never did like Peggy Noonan. Her voice and manner grates on me, and her endorsement of Obama was the final straw.

Yep, before I consider them worth they oxygen they consume, I insist on a lavish apology, ashes, sack cloth and signs held up saying, "We were the rubes!"
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2010, 07:09:24 PM »
Ya know, I really don't care for Noonan, either.  I didn't realize that made her column entirely worthless.   ;/
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2010, 07:11:07 PM »
Some people don't separate the message from the messenger.  Used to be that was a trait seen less often on the right than on the left.  These days, I'm not so sure.

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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2010, 09:45:56 PM »
Some people don't separate the message from the messenger. 

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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2010, 10:27:50 PM »
Some people don't separate the message from the messenger.  Used to be that was a trait seen less often on the right than on the left.  These days, I'm not so sure.

Or, it might be that she was a cheerleader for GWB's worst instincts for 8 years and then was obnoxiously dismissive of those who didn't follow her into Obama sycophancy.  Also, if I needed a weather vane, I could look out the window.  It doesn't take a NY pundit to regurgitate the obvious and re-package day-old conventional wisdom.

Nah, couldn't be that, it has to be an inability to separate message from messenger. 

Noonan, Buckley the Lesser, the bobo boob Brooks...where would we be if it weren't for their wisdom, superior judgment, and Ivy League ejaculations over melanin-enhanced marxists?
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2010, 11:27:52 PM »
Who's shooting the messenger? It's a fine message, albeit one I've read in countless iterations over the last several weeks. I just don't like Peggy Noonan.

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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2010, 09:34:12 PM »
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Second is the rise of women as a force. They "are the drivers in this election cycle," Ms. Blackburn says. "Something is going on." At tea party events the past 18 months, she started to notice "60% of the crowd is women."

She tells of a political rally that drew thousands in Nashville, at the State Capitol plaza. She had brought her year-old grandson. When the mic was handed to her, she was holding him. "I said, 'How many of you are grandmothers?' The hands! That was the moment I realized that the majority of the people at the political events now are women. I saw this in town halls in '09—it was women showing up at my listening events, it was women talking about health care."

Why would more women be focusing more intently on politics this year than before?

Ms. Blackburn hypothesizes: "Women are always focusing on a generation or two down the road. Women make the education and health-care decisions for their families, for their kids, their spouse, their parents. And so they have become more politically involved. They are worried about will people have enough money, how are they going to pay the bills, the tuition, get the kids through school and college."

Ms. Blackburn suggested, further in the conversation, that government's reach into the personal lives of families, including new health-care rules and the prospect of higher taxes, plus the rise in public information on how Washington works and what it does, had prompted mothers to rebel.

The media called 1994 "the year of the angry white male." That was the year of the Republican wave that yielded a GOP House for the first time in 40 years. "I look at this year as the Rage of the Bill-Paying Moms," Ms. Blackburn says. "They are saying 'How dare you, in your arrogance, cap the opportunities my child will have? You'll burden them with so much debt they won't be able to buy a house—all because you can't balance the budget.'"

Well, maybe, but single women were as responsible for anyone for putting Obama into the White House; women have historically voted heavily Democratic and have strongly favored big government programs; and the "American consumer" is a euphemism for women shoppers.  Who was it who drove all of those house sales?
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2010, 11:48:22 PM »
Well, maybe, but single women were as responsible for anyone for putting Obama into the White House; women have historically voted heavily Democratic and have strongly favored big government programs;

Only in the past few decades. In 1960, they actually favored Nixon over Kennedy.
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Re: Interesting things from Peggy Noonan
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 12:16:33 AM »
Right, only the last five decades...  :)   You've heard of The Hubby State?

I hope Peggy Noonan's right, but...
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