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There's a brilliant PR move
« on: May 04, 2010, 11:37:11 PM »
The NRA decided to host a convention in a gun free zone.  :facepalm: Before the NRA fanbois jump me, I am not saying "ZOMG lets all leave the NRA rarrgh foam." I am saying they should really pull their heads out and cease this sort of foolishness.

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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2010, 11:47:14 PM »
It has been NRA practice that firearms are not allowed in the convention, well at least the exhibits.


And it's not like they having it in Chicago......
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2010, 12:26:50 AM »
Several years ago, I went to the Gun Rights Policy Conference and the NRA Annual Meeting.  One of them (don't remember which) was being held in Cincinnati, because gun rights were being denied by some law or another.  Could it be something like that?
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2010, 12:30:47 AM »
These are convention center rules, not NRA rules (my understanding).
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2010, 12:33:06 AM »
I wouldn't go to an NRA meeting where I couldn't carry.  I don't go anywhere I don't have to without my weapon.
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2010, 02:08:41 AM »
I look at it the same way I look at a business who doesn't allow CCW. If you don't trust me to with a weapon, I don't trust and or support you. It's that damn simple.
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2010, 04:41:48 AM »
Yet more proof that the NRA has lost its way.

All my money goes to the TSRA now, they've done more for my gun rights in Texas than the NRA has, lately.
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2010, 09:46:21 AM »
sadly anywhere your paying to be(an event they call it) in NC carrying is how you say illegal :facepalm:
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2010, 10:33:43 AM »
They should have had it in VA. 
Very little is off limits to open or concealed carry in this state.  One thing I will miss.  :'(
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2010, 10:41:44 AM »
Quote from: JamisJockey on May 05, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
They should have had it in VA. 
Very little is off limits to open or concealed carry in this state.  One thing I will miss.  :'(
i'm hoping it's communicable to other states. =D
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2010, 10:43:22 AM »
Quote from: JamisJockey on May 05, 2010, 10:33:43 AM
They should have had it in VA. 
Very little is off limits to open or concealed carry in this state.  One thing I will miss.  :'(

There is less off-limits in TX.
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #11 on: May 05, 2010, 11:03:27 AM »
Quote from: jfruser on May 05, 2010, 10:43:22 AM
There is less off-limits in TX.

Really? Even discounting the whole of open carry, where can you carry in TX that we cannot in VA? (Especially after July of this year with restuarant carry going into effect?)
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #12 on: May 05, 2010, 11:17:52 AM »
Quote from: Jocassee on May 05, 2010, 12:30:47 AM
These are convention center rules, not NRA rules (my understanding).

And the NRA is choosing to give large amounts of member money to an anti-freedom venue. Lovely. Nothing like supporting a place that has no regard for your rights.  ;/
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2010, 11:43:27 AM »
Quote from: makattak on May 05, 2010, 11:03:27 AM
Really? Even discounting the whole of open carry, where can you carry in TX that we cannot in VA? (Especially after July of this year with restuarant carry going into effect?)

Restaurants & places that served chow is the first.  VA required open carry, TX allowed CC.  OC is a PITA and keeps many form doing so.  Like I'm going to OC at a business lunch with new customers and fellow employees I met for the first time that day, as I flew into Richmond.

The number of places explicitly called out as no-go in TX is pretty small, but the second biggest difference is the requirements for places that are not called out, but do not want CC on their premises.  TX requires a big honking sign with lettering of a certain size, with some exact language, in English & Spanish, at every entrance a customer would use, for an establishment to be officially "no-go."  Very, very few establishments go to the trouble.
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #14 on: May 05, 2010, 01:53:34 PM »
they changed va law  we can carry more places now
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2010, 02:04:17 PM »
Resturant carry has been overturned.  You can now conceal in resturants and bars.
And TX prohibits OC.  Generally around town I don't OC, but its nice to be able to go hunting or whatnot and not worry about open carrying when I get out to get gas, etc.  It also means that if you get made while CC (like if your wife trys to steal your wallet when you're in a store  :laugh: ), you're not breking any laws.
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2010, 04:51:40 PM »
Quote from: JamisJockey on May 05, 2010, 02:04:17 PM
Resturant carry has been overturned.  You can now conceal in resturants and bars.
And TX prohibits OC.  Generally around town I don't OC, but its nice to be able to go hunting or whatnot and not worry about open carrying when I get out to get gas, etc.  It also means that if you get made while CC (like if your wife trys to steal your wallet when you're in a store  :laugh: ), you're not breking any laws.

OC would sure be nice.  Have tossed some $$$ that way.

Glad one can now CC in VA restaurants.  May bring some heat to go along with sharp steel next time.
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2010, 05:02:24 PM »
Every time I've seen one of these things that restrict gun carrying it's because of the building owners' insurance policies.
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Quote from: cassandra and sara's daddy on May 05, 2010, 01:53:34 PM
they changed va law  we can carry more places now
Can you carry in restaurants that serve alcohol now?  That was one of the main gripes I had about VA.  Just about every time I go up to visit my dad we go to some kind of restaurant that serves alcohol.
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2010, 05:05:10 PM »
Yeah, the NRA convention being a "gun free zone" is no big deal. Makes perfect sense really.  ;/
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2010, 05:08:52 PM »
Quote from: jfruser on May 05, 2010, 04:51:40 PM
OC would sure be nice.  Have tossed some $$$ that way.

Glad one can now CC in VA restaurants.  May bring some heat to go along with sharp steel next time.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2010, 11:16:05 PM »
Quote from: Mabs on May 05, 2010, 05:02:24 PM
Every time I've seen one of these things that restrict gun carrying it's because of the building owners' insurance policies.
Chillax.Can you carry in restaurants that serve alcohol now?  That was one of the main gripes I had about VA.  Just about every time I go up to visit my dad we go to some kind of restaurant that serves alcohol.

No, we can't carry (concealed) in restaurants that serve alcohol now. We have to wait until July, if I remember correctly.

After July, that foolish bit of law is gone. Step by step...
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Re: There's a brilliant PR move
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2010, 11:20:20 PM »
Quote from: Balog on May 05, 2010, 11:17:52 AM
And the NRA is choosing to give large amounts of member money to an anti-freedom venue. Lovely. Nothing like supporting a place that has no regard for your rights.  ;/
Most such decisions have nothing to do with politics or freedom and everything to do with liability and insurance.
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« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2010, 12:57:38 AM »
Quote from: Headless Thompson Gunner on May 05, 2010, 11:20:20 PM
Most such decisions have nothing to do with politics or freedom and everything to do with liability and insurance.

I fail to see why this makes it a better idea. If the largest gun rights org in the nation is ok with victim disarmament zones for their own conventions, how can they campaign against them with a straight face?
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« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2010, 01:33:54 AM »
Quote from: makattak on May 05, 2010, 11:16:05 PM
No, we can't carry (concealed) in restaurants that serve alcohol now. We have to wait until July, if I remember correctly.

After July, that foolish bit of law is gone. Step by step...
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