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Coronavirus virtue signaling...
« on: February 27, 2020, 12:42:34 PM »
So, Liz Warren has just dropped proposed legislation to defund the border wall and move any obligated funds to fight the Corona virus.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/27/coronavirus-updates-elizabeth-warren-wants-to-defund-trump-border-wall-for-emergency-money.html

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Re: Coronavirus virtue signaling...
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2020, 12:44:46 PM »


You want measles, tuberculosis, and polio? Because that's how you get measles, tuberculosis and polio!

..and Coronavirus.  Mexico/central America won't have the health care infrastructure to deal with the disease.
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« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2020, 12:45:37 PM »
If only Trump would do someone that would help in keeping infected people out. Hmmmmm
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« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2020, 12:53:52 PM »
My gut says that the genie is out of the bottle on this one.  Numerous cases, including in the US, where the infected person has had no international travel recently nor have then come into known contact with suspected cases.
The border wall is years from being complete. 
Is her move political? Definitely.  But what's that saying about blind squirrels and acorns....?
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« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2020, 12:58:23 PM »
My gut says that the genie is out of the bottle on this one.  Numerous cases, including in the US, where the infected person has had no international travel recently nor have then come into known contact with suspected cases.
The border wall is years from being complete.  
Is her move political? Definitely.  But what's that saying about blind squirrels and acorns....?


I know, that ship sailed a long time ago but I find it somewhat ironic considering their stance now.
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Re: Coronavirus virtue signaling...
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2020, 12:58:54 PM »
" But what's that saying about blind squirrels and acorns....?"

I'd tell you, but I'd probably get fired for typing it on a government computer...  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2020, 01:29:09 PM »
I know, that ship sailed a long time ago but I find it somewhat ironic considering their stance now.

Meh.  Given the amount of international travel coming and going from US airports, and cruise ship traffic, catching a pandemic at the physical border is a finger in the dike. 
The real reasons to control the borders are financial and criminal.  Harder to know who the *expletive deleted*ck is coming in when they just hike through the desert.

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Re: Coronavirus virtue signaling...
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2020, 01:57:25 PM »
There's 82,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus, and about 2000 deaths.

How many people go to the doctor for a flu?

There's probably over half a million actual coronavirus infections.

I'm not worried about it.  Hell, I probably had it last week when I was sick.
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Re: Coronavirus virtue signaling...
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2020, 02:08:52 PM »
There's 82,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus, and about 2000 deaths.

How many people go to the doctor for a flu?

There's probably over half a million actual coronavirus infections.

I'm not worried about it.  Hell, I probably had it last week when I was sick.

I wonder about that myself. I was sick a week ago, and 4 weeks ago.  We've had at least one person at any given time out sick on our staff at work since january.
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« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2020, 02:23:08 PM »
It's not the coronavirus itself that worries me it's people's reaction to it.

Anyone else noticing similarities to the way the media and the dems are hyping this up and the way they hyped up the banking issues before the 2008 election? If I didn't know better  [tinfoil]
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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2020, 03:58:48 PM »
There's 82,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus, and about 2000 deaths.

How many people go to the doctor for a flu?

There's probably over half a million actual coronavirus infections.

I'm not worried about it.  Hell, I probably had it last week when I was sick.

I'm only worried because it's so new.  This strain is so new that we have no data on how it spreads, who's more likely to get severely sick, actual mortality rates, etc.  Pumping cash into it right now is actually a really good idea.   
The flu, we have hundreds of years of information about it. 
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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2020, 04:28:24 PM »
It's not the coronavirus itself that worries me it's people's reaction to it.

Anyone else noticing similarities to the way the media and the dems are hyping this up and the way they hyped up the banking issues before the 2008 election? If I didn't know better  [tinfoil]


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Re: Coronavirus virtue signaling...
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2020, 04:54:13 PM »
There's 82,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus, and about 2000 deaths.

How many people go to the doctor for a flu?

There's probably over half a million actual coronavirus infections.

I'm not worried about it.  Hell, I probably had it last week when I was sick.

My wife and I have each been fighting multiple cold episodes since the beginning of January, which is very unusual for us.  Usually, it's one and done, but we're both still having minor problems.  It wouldn't surprise me if the beer virus is behind it.  We've got a large Asian population in this area (Chinese, Vietnamese and Hmong), and I'm sure many of them are traveling home to visit relatives at any given time.
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2020, 02:00:25 AM »
Has anyone else come across the idea that coronavirus is murder on smokers, and the Chinese smoke like chimneys?

According to Wikipedia the Inerrant, China is the largest producer and consumer of tobacco products.
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Re: Coronavirus virtue signaling...
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2020, 05:47:32 AM »
Has anyone else come across the idea that coronavirus is murder on smokers, and the Chinese smoke like chimneys?

According to Wikipedia the Inerrant, China is the largest producer and consumer of tobacco products.

Isn't China the largest, period?

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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2020, 08:38:31 AM »
Has anyone else come across the idea that coronavirus is murder on smokers, and the Chinese smoke like chimneys?

According to Wikipedia the Inerrant, China is the largest producer and consumer of tobacco products.

It has a disproportionate affect on the elderly so far.   I wouldn't doubt that smoking, and poor air quality and poor nutrition also contribute to deaths.
 
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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2020, 09:29:51 AM »
It has a disproportionate affect on the elderly so far.   I wouldn't doubt that smoking, and poor air quality and poor nutrition also contribute to deaths.
 
If it is an upper respiratory virus, I can certainly see that.   

I am worried more about the public reaction as well.  That and worried a little about my parents.  They are in their 70's.  Neither smokes at least.

I guess I am also a little worried our politicians will pass something stupid as a response to the virus.
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2020, 12:13:09 PM »

I guess I am also a little worried our politicians will pass something stupid as a response to the virus.

Sounds like a Tuesday.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2020, 01:37:18 PM »
Swmbo and I have probably had it twice.  We first got upper respiratory crud the first of October.  Horrible productive and unproductive coughing.  I actually passed out from a BP spike from coughing.  Wheezing and gurgling at night in bed.  At various times, stick head in sink with towel over head and hot water faucet at full bore to breathe.  Took 6 weeks to mostly go away, then it came back for another month for both of us.  Same symptoms.  Swmbo had 3 episodes of cold like symptoms along with the upper respiratory crud during the October through January period.  Swmbo had 2 Dr visits and Rxs for inhaler and steroids.   I had 3 Dr visits, 2 lung ex rays, a 20 minute inhaler at the doc's office, another inhaler I used for a month at home, 3 courses of steroids for me and 2 for swmbo along with multiple purchases of Alka Seltzer cold and flu capsules and Guaifanesin expectorant.  I also had a concussion and cat scan of my head and xray of my shoulder from injuries from when I passed out and hit the tile floor.  I start therapy Monday to improve the shoulder and neck problems that are causing a cevicogenic headache from the fall.

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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2020, 05:04:31 PM »
I wholly am convinced now that this will hand Bernie his win. 
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2020, 07:15:51 PM »
I wholly am convinced now that this will hand Bernie his win. 
:rofl:   No.   It certainly WILL NOT do that.
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« Reply #21 on: February 29, 2020, 09:14:03 AM »
  If one was a person who hasn't paid much attention to the political side show that's been going on since 2016, and happened to turn on the TV and for some strange reason listened to what the D candidates and the D party apparatchiks (aka MSM)are saying about the Corona virus, it would be enough to cause that person to vote for Trump, or at least not vote at all.

If the Corona virus is as big of a threat to humanity that the MSM is portraying, it would seem to me that the D candidates and the MSM would not be using it as a political tool to disparage the President and bring down the economy to boot.  It would seem to me, that the situation should be a unifying thing.  Which just goes to show how much full of *expletive deleted*it the Ds are with respect to their lies about the power of diversity and inclusion and all the other tripe they push to turn us into small tribes of warring victims/plebeians.
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« Reply #22 on: February 29, 2020, 09:46:00 AM »
:rofl:   No.   It certainly WILL NOT do that.

When it becomes more widespread in the US, the media will beat on the socialist agenda drum.  Free medicare, free mandatory sick leave for all, and how much a covid-19 test costs for the uninsured.  Free *expletive deleted*it coupled with panic...today's bread and circuses.
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« Reply #23 on: February 29, 2020, 10:22:46 AM »
When it becomes more widespread in the US, the media will beat on the socialist agenda drum.  Free medicare, free mandatory sick leave for all, and how much a covid-19 test costs for the uninsured.  Free *expletive deleted*it coupled with panic...today's bread and circuses.

I don't know about the rest of it, but if things get worse, I'm betting evil capitalists will come up with a free or $5 test, just like you can get a $5 flu shot. Or else free testing is an easy place for Trump to throw some of the $2.5 billion.
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« Reply #24 on: February 29, 2020, 10:54:40 AM »
I don't know about the rest of it, but if things get worse, I'm betting evil capitalists will come up with a free or $5 test, just like you can get a $5 flu shot. Or else free testing is an easy place for Trump to throw some of the $2.5 billion.

Free testing is his only out IMHO.  And probably reimbursing sick time or something along those lines for people who are in quarantine.
Big pharma aren't evil capitalists.  Evil capitalists are willing to put the competition out of business via better pricing, IE walmart.  Big Pharma is always out to turn a mega profit asap.  Right or wrong, I don't see big pharma punching out cheap tests unless they're forced to as a state of emergency, or receive subsidy from the .gov.

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