Author Topic: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?  (Read 7365 times)

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What? They didn't suddenly declare peace? They used nasty slurs about him, and renewed their threats to destroy us?

SHOCKING. SHOCKING, I SAY.

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Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with racial epithet

By MAAMOUN YOUSSEF and LEE KEATH – 1 hour ago

CAIRO, Egypt (AP) — Al-Qaida's No. 2 leader used a racial epithet to insult Barack Obama in a message posted Wednesday, using a demeaning racial term implying that the president-elect is a black American who does the bidding of whites.

The message appeared chiefly aimed at persuading Muslims and Arabs that Obama does not represent a change in U.S. policies. Ayman al-Zawahri said in the message, which appeared on militant Web sites, that Obama is "the direct opposite of honorable black Americans" like Malcolm X, the 1960s African-American rights leader.

In al-Qaida's first response to Obama's victory, al-Zawahri also called the president-elect — along with secretaries of state Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice — "house negroes."

Speaking in Arabic, al-Zawahri uses the term "abeed al-beit," which literally translates as "house slaves." But al-Qaida supplied English subtitles of his speech that included the translation as "house negroes."

The message also includes old footage of speeches by Malcolm X in which he explains the term, saying black slaves who worked in their white masters' house were more servile than those who worked in the fields. Malcolm X used the term to criticize black leaders he accused of not standing up to whites.

The 11-minute 23-second video features the audio message by al-Zawahri, who appears only in a still image, along with other images, including one of Obama wearing a Jewish skullcap as he meets with Jewish leaders. In his speech, al-Zawahri refers to a Nov. 5 U.S. airstrike attack in Afghanistan, meaning the video was made after that date.

Al-Zawahri said Obama's election has not changed American policies he said are aimed at oppressing Muslims and others.

"America has put on a new face, but its heart full of hate, mind drowning in greed, and spirit which spreads evil, murder, repression and despotism continue to be the same as always," the deputy of al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden said.

He said Obama's plan to shift troops to Afghanistan is doomed to failure, because Afghans will resist.

"Be aware that the dogs of Afghanistan have found the flesh of your soldiers to be delicious, so send thousands after thousands to them," he said.

Al-Zawahri did not threaten specific attacks, but warned Obama that he was "facing a Jihadi (holy war) awakening and renaissance which is shaking the pillars of the entire Islamic world; and this is the fact which you and your government and country refuse to recognize and pretend not to see."

He said Obama's victory showed Americans acknowledged that President George W. Bush's policies were a failure and that the result was an "admission of defeat in Iraq."

But Obama's professions of support for Israel during the election campaign "confirmed to the Ummah (Islamic world) that you have chosen a stance of hostility to Islam and Muslims," al-Zawahri said.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2008, 10:53:48 AM »
House slaves would be something they would understand very, very well.  Such lovely souls.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2008, 10:56:08 AM »
I just hope they are right about him and that he will indeed act to protect America from muslim attacks.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2008, 11:22:08 AM »
No, he will waver, wait, talk, and then massively over-act to save face. I worry about that way more than I worry about his bag o' socialism. He's the best chance since Kennedy for WWIII.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2008, 11:26:02 AM »
Funny, I worry a lot more about the Bag of Socialism.

The Arabs are incompetent; Obama's Brothers and Sisters in Socialism know exactly what to do since Grandpa Karl and Uncle Vlad spelled it out long ago.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2008, 12:01:29 PM »
Funny, I worry a lot more about the Bag of Socialism.

The Arabs are incompetent; Obama's Brothers and Sisters in Socialism know exactly what to do since Grandpa Karl and Uncle Vlad spelled it out long ago.

If you move aggressively towards a predator, it will often back off. You're obviously not prey.

If you hesitate, back off or try to run, you're prey.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2008, 12:04:23 PM »
If you move aggressively towards a predator, it will often back off. You're obviously not prey.

If you hesitate, back off or try to run, you're prey.

I don't think you understand.

Nobody genuinely plans to run away from these people.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2008, 12:08:16 PM »
I don't think you understand.

Nobody genuinely plans to run away from these people.

You're right.

They plan to kneel and scrape to them, as if that will prevent them from raising the sword to cut off their head.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2008, 12:12:34 PM »
You're right.

They plan to kneel and scrape to them, as if that will prevent them from raising the sword to cut off their head.

Do you think that Obama, who sits in Washington D.C., protected by the world's mightiest armed forces, feels genuine fear of a bunch of idiots in Afghanistan who can't know their backside from a hole in the ground?

The same idiots who are currently having their rear handed to them on a plate by the Americans and Iraqi army [who inflict 20-1 casualties on them]?

You seriously think that Obama, or anybody else in Washington, experiences actual fear of these fools? For what possible reason?
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2008, 12:40:25 PM »
He called Obama a WHAT????   :O


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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2008, 12:58:15 PM »
Do you think that Obama, who sits in Washington D.C., protected by the world's mightiest armed forces, feels genuine fear of a bunch of idiots in Afghanistan who can't know their backside from a hole in the ground?

The same idiots who are currently having their rear handed to them on a plate by the Americans and Iraqi army [who inflict 20-1 casualties on them]?

You seriously think that Obama, or anybody else in Washington, experiences actual fear of these fools? For what possible reason?

I've seen two big holes in NYC that rather refute that argument.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2008, 01:12:28 PM »
The jihadist will nuke or other massive attack, B.O will use that as an excuse to declare martial law and take the Bill Of Rights and put them in a museum
so future generations could look at them on school field trips.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 01:32:19 PM »
Back to my original thought, some do get it. The arab rabble and/or Iran is not in itself a threat. Some weak kneed vacillation diplomacy while everything goes to crap will be the invite for more attacks, proceed with the nuclear program, whatever. The end result will be another massive attack here or maybe something like a unilateral action by Israel that feels left exposed and alone. Either will trigger a huge response in that region while providing cover for domestic changes that make the Patriot Act look like Charlie Brown's Christmas.

The Bush strategy has one major flaw, we don't have OBL's head on a pike in the Rose Garden. Other than that we are killing plenty of terrorists on their home court rather than ours. It can be argued that we are making more terrorists by fighting the wars, but then again the Japanese made more fighter pilots after we wiped their experienced aviators out of the sky. Of course the replacements weren't good for any skilled actions. Rather make a bunch of one trick wonders (suicide bombers) while erasing the skills and resources to pull off successful intercontinental operations.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 01:49:30 PM »
The jihadist will nuke or other massive attack, B.O will use that as an excuse to declare martial law and take the Bill Of Rights and put them in a museum
so future generations could look at them on school field trips.

I'm afraid that you may be all too correct ....  =(

Or maybe they will discover a comet headed for earth ???
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2008, 09:35:49 PM »
The jihadist will nuke or other massive attack, B.O will use that as an excuse to declare martial law and take the Bill Of Rights and put them in a museum
so future generations could look at them on school field trips.

I don't know that the last two presidents would have done any differently.  And I'm not so confident about Bush Sr., either.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2008, 10:13:37 PM »
I've seen two big holes in NYC that rather refute that argument.

Again I ask.

Do you think that Obama, or Reid, or Murtha, has a genuine fear that the terrorists will get him, personally? Do you genuinely think THAT is what motivates these people?
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2008, 10:24:55 PM »
That's completely irrelevant. They have a fear as not being seen to have done something, thus losing their power. GW got re-elected because he did something in a loud and messy manner. The new one will be backed into a much deeper corner before he acts, thus creating a much bigger mess. Remember the 90's? I was busy fixing airplanes that were dropping bombs on Saddam while other ships launched cruise missiles at tents and camels. A decade of that ineffectual crap in the face of a KNOWN THREAT created the mess that led to Gulf Wars part deux and 9/11. 

The next round of pansy action might lead down the glowing yellow brick road.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2008, 10:38:42 PM »
Truth.

Obama et alia don't have to be direct targets of a terrorist attack to experience failure.  Why that's even thought of as relevant is anybody's guess.  Short-sighted, yes, but not terribly relevant.

IOW, they simply have to lose the public's confidence, and as of 5 Nov 08 there's at least 48% of the American public that didn't have any confidence in them to begin with.

Were another 9/11 to happen on American soil *, they'd better have their fecal matter in one sock, period.

People are loathe to admit it, but the outgoing administration managed to thwart many subsequent attacks before they happened.  One can only hope the incoming administration can do the same over the next 4 years.

*(I don't believe it will be another 9/11 style of attack - for Al Qaeda, it has to be bigger and better than the WTC event for increased recruiting value and credibility amongst their peers...)
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2008, 10:46:45 PM »
Again I ask.

Do you think that Obama, or Reid, or Murtha, has a genuine fear that the terrorists will get him, personally? Do you genuinely think THAT is what motivates these people?
Could terrorists get them personally?  Probably not.  But they could certainly get them politically.  A major terrorist attack on the US would be disastrous for Obama politically.  Obama's inevitable ineffectual response to that attack would be also be a political disaster.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2008, 08:28:34 AM »
I am no fan of terrorists. The idea of killing thousands of innocent men women and children sucks for almost any cause. But this has gone too far. While killing is bad, isn't a hate crime far worse?? Is there some Government program to stop these types of insults? Should we step up our efforts to capture these people?

There ought to be a law.........
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2008, 10:36:04 AM »
I am no fan of terrorists. The idea of killing thousands of innocent men women and children sucks for almost any cause. But this has gone too far. While killing is bad, isn't a hate crime far worse?? Is there some Government program to stop these types of insults? Should we step up our efforts to capture these people?

There ought to be a law.........

And I give today's incoherence two WTH ups?

Not sure what the attempted point is but when I hear "hate crime," I start to think that someone is a little too invested in in social justice. Especially when it is worse than killing. I'm pretty sure if you kill someone you hate they're no more dead then your best buddy you killed.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #21 on: November 21, 2008, 11:58:27 AM »
Again I ask.

Do you think that Obama, or Reid, or Murtha, has a genuine fear that the terrorists will get him, personally? Do you genuinely think THAT is what motivates these people?
I'm thinking more in terms of perception rather than reality.  If they give the impression that they will not react decisively or strongly, they will essentially invite the terrorist types to test the waters and see what they can get away with.  I don't really think those guys fear the terrorists, but I think they may underestimate them.
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2008, 12:06:04 PM »
Look, I'm not  a fan of either Obama or Murtha. I think they're both stinking bags of excrement. But it rankles me when people call these people cowards, because that they're certainly not. Murtha - an elitist socialist shmuck if one ever walked the Earth - has a Bronze star with a valor device (i.e., he committed at least one 'act of combat heroism'), two Purple Hearts, and a Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. None of these awards are compatible with personal cowardice, nor is volunteering to serve in a war. Now, AGAIN, I do not like these people, nor would I vote for them if I were an American citizen, but cowards, they don't seem to be.

Further, anybody who will think that America is AFRAID of a bunch of semi-literate idiots based on America relocating its troops, is an idiot. America is the country that destroyed a third of the Iranian navy in one day, with one carrier battle group, and took no losses whatever. Does this give a measure of the difference in power between America and the terrorist idiots and their enablers in the Middle East?
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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2008, 12:09:01 PM »
Further, anybody who will think that America is AFRAID of a bunch of semi-literate idiots based on America relocating its troops, is an idiot. America is the country that destroyed a third of the Iranian navy in one day, with one carrier battle group, and took no losses whatever. Does this give a measure of the difference in power between America and the terrorist idiots and their enablers in the Middle East?

We win in any conventional war.

They fly airliners full of civilians into buildings.

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Re: What? All is not peace and light from Islamist radicals about Obama?
« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2008, 12:12:32 PM »
We win in any conventional war.

They fly airliners full of civilians into buildings.

And then America goes, kills the Al-Quaeda leadership, forces Bin Laden into hiding, destroys the Taleban government, destroys Iraq's military [not really clear why], and destroys Al-Quaeda's key bases. Dozens of thousands of terrorists are killed. Nobody even KNOWS how many Taleban are dead.
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