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« on: February 03, 2006, 09:53:06 AM »
Today on the way to work, my 2002 F-150's clutch pedal stuck to the floor.  I fooled with it a bit, and it finally came back.  Any idea what could cause this?

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« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2006, 10:00:15 AM »
Did the clutch release fully when it was at the floor (were you able to shift gears without any grinding?)

Have you noticed any clutch slippage or chatter?
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« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2006, 10:02:55 AM »
No slippage or chatter.  No, I wasn't able to shift gears.

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« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2006, 10:05:34 AM »
Hmm, on second thought, it chatters a bit sometimes.

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« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2006, 10:06:26 AM »
Better get that baby in the shop pronto.  
Could be going out on you, and if you're lucky, it was just the wake up call before failing.

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« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2006, 10:07:56 AM »
Damn it.  That's what I was afraid of.  Well, I've got 10,000 miles left on my warranty.

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« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2006, 10:20:34 AM »
This happened on a friend's TR-8 years ago, only the clutch pedal stayed down. We couldn't get it back up. When we finally got it back to his house and opened it up, it looked like metal rain coming out of the clutch housing.

Don't count on the warranty to cover the clutch, either...
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« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2006, 10:30:29 AM »
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We couldn't get it back up
Viagra will fix that.

As for the clutch problem, when the clutch completely died on my Paseo, the pedal would come back up, but the clutch wouldn't completely disengage.  Check your clutch hydralics and any return mechanism.  It might not be the clutch itself.  

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« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2006, 10:45:30 AM »
Dasmi,

For a TON of info about your truck, what goes wrong with 'em and more info on fixes than you'll have time to read, go to:

 www.fordtruckenthusiasts.com

and find the forum for F150s.

Good luck,


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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2006, 10:48:04 AM »
Thanks, matis.

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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2006, 10:52:52 AM »
"Viagra will fix that."

Unfortunately, it was in the pre Viagra days.

We had to use a hammer and a couple of wrenches. Shocked
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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2006, 10:56:00 AM »
IIRC, that is a hydraulic clutch.  Make sure the fluid is full (it's brake fluid).  If it's chattering and it jams like that, you may soon become intimately acquainted with clutch replacement.  If you're so inclined, you can fix it yourself at a relatively low expense.  Anybody who tells you it's a hard job is trying to scare you.  I didn't know it was hard until somebody told me after I had done it three times.

There is a probability of something between zip, zilch, nothing, and nada of the clutch being under warranty.

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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2006, 11:10:41 AM »
Ya, I can fix it myself.  Thanks, I'll look at the clutch fluid, it is hydraulic.

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2006, 11:16:12 AM »
If it's hydraulic I'd be betting the master cylinder is hanging up. Out of curiosity, how many miles on it?
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2006, 11:43:52 AM »
65,000 and change.
It seems to be working fine now, except I can hear a faint chattering, rattling noise, as the clutch disengages.

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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2006, 01:13:14 PM »
Brother the Ford mechanic says it's probably the "slave cylinder" which is inside the bell housing. Replaced the "throwout bearing" a few years back from what I gather.

Hope this helps
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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2006, 01:17:30 PM »
I've never replaced a thing on this truck, save for brakes and tires.

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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2006, 02:11:34 PM »
No, I mean ford did away with the old style throwout bearing and replaced it with this "slave cylinder" in the newer models, or so I understand anyways
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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2006, 02:12:34 PM »
Hmm, ok.

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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2006, 03:07:16 PM »
Warranty = trip the dealer. Let them deal with the headache.

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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2006, 05:28:46 PM »
My slave cylinder went out about a year ago. At the time, I heard several "friend of a friend" stories about slave cylinder problems with Fords. Is the clutch fluid still a clear honey color or is it black? Black = seal deteriorating. Any leaks on your driveway/garage? Fluid level dropping?

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2006, 05:30:58 PM »
It's dark out now, I'll report tomorrow when I get a better look at everything.

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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2006, 06:02:49 PM »
It sounds very much like a problem that a friend of mine had with his Jeep, that turned out to be the "clutch slave cylinder" as well, which was the first time I had ever heard of such a thing.

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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2006, 06:13:22 PM »
People over at Ford-trucks.com mentioned the slave cylinder as well.

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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2006, 09:39:58 PM »
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which was the first time I had ever heard of such a thing
They've been around for quite some time now.  It's a really good idea with a less than spectacular implementation.  Basically, it replaces the old, reliable mechanical linkage with a hydraulic system that is heavier and prone to failure.  I had a 1992 explorer that was on its 4th clutch at 98k when we got rid of it.  The "advantage" is that it is self-adjusting.  The idea is that you always have constant clutch pressure through the entire life of the friction plate.  It adjusts out by pulling fluid (brake fluid) from the resivoir just like hydraulic brakes.  The mechanical linkage to the throwout bearing is replaced by a slave cylinder that pushes the diaphragm when you press the pedal.  Self-adjusting is all well and good, but it's a plan to sell more clutches.  When a mechanical clutch starts to slip, you get a good long warning time so you can replace it at your leisure.  With a hydraulic clutch, since it will never slip, you get about ten seconds of warning before your flywheel and pressure plate come flying out of the bell housing.  It's a great deal if you're in the clutch business.