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a Latin challenge has arisen...
« on: April 26, 2010, 08:45:29 PM »
My buddy and I are the smartest people his girlfriend knows (yes, she needs to get out more).  Out of (false) modesty I often talk about not being smart in and of myself but rather that I run with a pretty smart crowd. She decided to take me up on it.

She owns a big tire business here in town and is looking to make medallions to honor employees, she'd like them to have the following four words in Latin.

I, of course, only know a few Latin tags.

So, help me out and maintain our (my) reputation.

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We are creating an honorary medal to recognize employees who possess the following qualities; however, we would like the words to be represented in Latin.  Would you please help with translation?  We are looking for the closest one word translation possible.
 
Integrity
Loyalty
Selflessness
Leadership


She knows about online translators but wants to make sure the tenses and such are correct, no "Romanes eunt domus" problems.
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 10:08:12 PM »

integritas
fidelitas
???
gubernatio
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 10:09:18 PM »
Makattack and Micro are both Latin speaking types. I think HTG might be too?
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 10:34:46 PM »
Are you going to be checking these answers or will this be like the Japanese tattoo's that people get when they have had a few too many.

for selflessness try Altruism

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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 10:36:53 PM »
I'll double check.  I know you louts too well.

I'm more interested in getting the right suffixes and such.
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 11:16:27 PM »
Integrity = Bonitas

Loyalty = Fides

Selflessness = no direct analog. For "service," one of these might be suitable: Benefactum, Munus, Officium (Officium seems best)

Leadership = Ducatus, or maybe Principatus
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 12:53:46 AM »
Quote from: Tallpine on April 26, 2010, 10:08:12 PM
integritas
fidelitas
???
gubernatio

Tallpine's got most of it here.

There's no translation for Selflessness. I'd suggest sacrifice: Sacrificum (easy cognate, too)

Leadership is another difficult one. Gubernatio is a little more official, I'd go with imperium. Power to command.  

I'd suggest:

Intergritas
Fidelitas
Sacrificium
Imperium

Intergrity, Faithfulness, Sacrifice, Power

I'll see what can be done about "leadership" to come closer. However, I like the symmetry of two third declension nouns and two second declension nouns.

Edit: forgot an i in Sacrificium
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2010, 01:33:56 AM »
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She knows about online translators but wants to make sure the tenses and such are correct, no "Romanes eunt domus" problems.

The one at Perseus gives declension tables.
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2010, 04:43:57 AM »
Why not just use the English words?

My diploma is 100% in Latin except for my name and I had to get a translation of it for one job.

Yes, I went to a pretty pretentious school.

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O, Nobili

O, Sibili, si ergo
Fortibus es inero
O, Nobili demis
Entbuses, demis trux
Siwat isinem
Cowsen Dux!
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2010, 07:41:48 AM »
Because she wants Latin.

What about the Latin word for "generalship" or such.

Anything down that rabbit hole?
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2010, 09:30:38 AM »
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for selflessness try Altruism

I was trying to remember that word, and all I could thing of was "autism"

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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2010, 09:32:59 AM »
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Because she wants Latin.

OK, but it just sounds pretentious, like today is Aprilis XXVII, MMX.
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2010, 09:54:01 AM »
That latin is classy!
Just make sure the typography is bold uppercase case you know important stuff is ALWAYS bold & uppercase

and use a real flourishy font too, I recommend Zaph Chancery.
Nothing looks finer than a word set in all caps Zaph Chancery.

And maybe have bibendum doing the macarena on it

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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2010, 03:16:39 PM »
Be careful using Latin.  You might change somebody into a toad or something ...  :O
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2010, 03:32:47 PM »
selflessness + "Noscruum"

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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2010, 03:33:41 PM »
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Be careful using Latin.  You might change somebody into a toad or something ...  :O

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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2010, 03:44:45 PM »
Another option for leadership:

Auctoritas: authority, clout, ability to rally support

(as an added bonus it is yet another third declension noun.)
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2010, 06:01:32 PM »
Auctoritas: authority, clout, ability to rally support and elicit high bids.
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2010, 06:06:05 PM »
Quote from: 230RN on April 27, 2010, 06:01:32 PM
Auctoritas: authority, clout, ability to rally support and elicit high bids.


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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2010, 07:02:54 PM »
One I love is vine, vide, velcro.  "I came, I saw, I stuck around."
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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2010, 07:10:11 PM »
Integritus
Loyaltus
Selflessnessus
Leadershipus

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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2010, 07:17:27 PM »
The conjugation of Bob.

Bobo
Bobisti
Bobbit

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Re: a Latin challenge has arisen...
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2010, 09:06:06 AM »
I'm surprised nobody's translated the "O Nobili" poem yet.

OK, here goes:

Latin:

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O, Nobili

O, Sibili, si ergo
Fortibus es inero
O, Nobili demis
Entbuses, demis trux
Siwat isinem?
Cowsen Dux!

Engrish:

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Oh, no, Billy

Oh, see, Billy, see 'er go
Forty buses in a row
Oh, no, Billy, dem isn't buses, dem is trucks.
See what is in 'em?
Cows and ducks!

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