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Main Forums => The Roundtable => Topic started by: lee n. field on January 15, 2022, 12:42:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zccfDSvaJrY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zccfDSvaJrY)
https://notthebee.com/article/there-was-a-massive-volcanic-eruption-near-tonga-yesterday-and-the-footage-of-the-explosion-and-the-subsequent-tsunami-are-absolutely-harrowing (https://notthebee.com/article/there-was-a-massive-volcanic-eruption-near-tonga-yesterday-and-the-footage-of-the-explosion-and-the-subsequent-tsunami-are-absolutely-harrowing)
I wonder what trouble we'll see from this. I'm thinking in terms of global cooling for a year or years, and impact on global crop production.
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I blame Trump and the NRA.
Obviously the eruption was the result of rampant, institutionalized racism and global climate change.
Women and minorities to be affected disproportionately.
White people need to apologize.
The unvaccinated are causing catastrophic death tolls world wide.
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Sounds like it was a bit overhyped. I don't see much of an atmospheric dust cloud.... maybe some muddying of the water affecting fishing, plankton generation.
Maybe it was G-d fishing? "Teach a man to use half a stick over the side of the boat and he will feed himself forever."
And apparently there wasn't much of a tsunami.
I hate to sound like a naysayer --I've been wrong before --but I'll await further data before doing any pearl-clutching and hand-wringing and heading for the fainting couch.
Say, was that near McHale's Island? I know it wasn't near the Isle d'Gilligan. And Captain Nemo's lair, Lincoln Island, was purely fictional.
Terry, 230RN
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. . . Say, was that near McHale's Island? I know it wasn't near the Isle d'Gilligan. And Captain Nemo's lair, Lincoln Island, was purely fictional.
McHale's island? I think Taratupa was fictional, but IIRC McHale & Crew eventually moved to New Caledonia which is real, and east of Australia. About 1200 miles from Tonga.
Hmmm . . . speaking of islands, VMF 214 was stationed on Vella La Cava for TV purposes, but in real life they had an airstrip on Vella LaVella, a little over 2000 miles from Tonga.
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McHale's island? I think Taratupa was fictional, but IIRC McHale & Crew eventually moved to New Caledonia which is real, and east of Australia. About 1200 miles from Tonga.
Hmmm . . . speaking of islands, VMF 214 was stationed on Vella La Cava for TV purposes, but in real life they had an airstrip on Vella LaVella, a little over 2000 miles from Tonga.
Taratupa?
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51434583908_24e87d151e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mn6FQQ)
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I don't think any South Pacific tsunami will ever reach Oklahoma.
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Reading up, it looks like this one's a long way from something that would make the globular warmening cultists shut up.
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Tsunami was a nothingburger here.
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Sounds like it was a bit overhyped. I don't see much of an atmospheric dust cloud.... maybe some muddying of the water affecting fishing, plankton generation.
Maybe it was G-d fishing? "Teach a man to use half a stick over the side of the boat and he will feed himself forever."
And apparently there wasn't much of a tsunami.
I hate to sound like a naysayer --I've been wrong before --but I'll await further data before doing any pearl-clutching and hand-wringing and heading for the fainting couch.
Say, was that near McHale's Island? I know it wasn't near the Isle d'Gilligan. And Captain Nemo's lair, Lincoln Island, was purely fictional.
Terry, 230RN
One image I saw had a scale attached that showed the dust cloud to be about 300 miles wide.
And there are reports of people hearing the explosion from hundreds of miles away.
Tonga was hit with 4 foot high tsunami, which doesn't sound like much until you consider that Tonga is a low island.
Then there is the fact that the tsunami made it all the way to California in the form of a 4 foot wave at Port San Luis.
But, hey, that's all mild compared to what Hollywood dreams up.
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For all the *expletive deleted*ed up parts of our timeline, I love being able to see video of almost everything that happens on the planet minutes after it occurs.
Cool volcano.
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NWS is reporting that the explosions from the eruption were heard in Alaska.
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/science/2022/01/15/volcano-eruption-near-tonga-causes-booms-heard-by-alaskans-nearly-6000-miles-away/
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obviously, the locals were not sacrificing enough virgins by hurling them into the volcano - it's there own fault
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obviously, the locals were not sacrificing enough virgins by hurling them into the volcano - it's there own fault
Well, it was an uninhabited island, so...
Also check out the pressure wave from that thing. It was visible to geostationary satellites.
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Well, it was an uninhabited island, so...
Also check out the pressure wave from that thing. It was visible to geostationary satellites.
Makes you wonder what Krakatoa or Tambora would have looked like.
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Tsunami was a nothingburger here.
But Lord knows that I got about three or four emergency alerts about it on my phone. We were eating breakfast at a cafe when the first alert sounded and most of the phones in the cafe went off at the same time.
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But Lord knows that I got about three or four emergency alerts about it on my phone. We were eating breakfast at a cafe when the first alert sounded and most of the phones in the cafe went off at the same time.
In this case, better safe than sorry. Remember the Tsunami of 2011 that hit the West Coast. I was at Santa Barbara Harbor when it hit, as we were moving our boats out to sea. I might still have some video of a floating dock being wiped out as well as damage the surge did. This wasn't a big ass fifty foot high movie wave - it was pretty much a surge. You couldn't really even see a defined wave.
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Reading up, it looks like this one's a long way from something that would make the globular warmening cultists shut up.
Biden will win the Nobel Peace prize for stopping global warming
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FJT2LCXXEAMoRhV?format=jpg&name=medium)
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Does anyone know if anyone in Tonga was killed?
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Does anyone know if anyone in Tonga was killed?
Was watching a guy last night on YT doing a live feed on info coming in. Basic answer yes, some reports have made it thought but we still at this point don't know if it's a few or a lot. Tonga proper appears to be not too hard hit* with their biggest problem being ash contaminating the water supplies. Last I saw last night were reports they're trying to clear the runway of ash so that relief flights can land.
He did show some photos which did show some of the smaller islands may have been hard hit by the tsunami. Loss of life may be heavy on them.
NZ and Australia are sending ships but it will take ~3 days to get there.
*To be updated
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(https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2022/01/tonga-volcano-eruption-goes-close.gif)
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Images show volcanic ash all over Tonga after eruption and tsunami | 7NEWS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb6TbawFVzY
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The big problem with tsunamis is that it's virtually impossible to predict how bad one is going to be at any particular location.
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(https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2022/01/tonga-volcano-eruption-goes-close.gif)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuUJfYcn3V4
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From what I read, Tonga sounds like a really neat place. I hope they get through this ok.
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Considering how communications have been mostly cut off I keep thinking Starlink
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Saw a report earlier today that the undersea cable that carries comms has been severed in at least 2 spots and will take at least 2 weeks to repair.
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Considering how communications have been mostly cut off I keep thinking Starlink
I wonder if SpaceX, et al, can quickly launch a satellite package to remote locations affected by natural disasters. Starlink does not have global coverage yet, but can they selectively turn on/off certain areas during natural disasters?
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I wonder if SpaceX, et al, can quickly launch a satellite package to remote locations affected by natural disasters. Starlink does not have global coverage yet, but can they selectively turn on/off certain areas during natural disasters?
Starlink has pretty good global satellite coverage, but they don't have global reach on their ground stations. The initial constellation required line of sight to both the gateway and the home-based transceiver.
I believe that since last fall the new satellites getting launched are equipped with lasers for inter-satellite optical relay, which should allow for relaying to distant gateways. Once the new satellites are ubiquitous enough then SpaceX should be able to turn on coverage anywhere, although I imagine the latency would increase if it had to hop a dozen satellites to get to a ground station.
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This sounds like a job for Ham radio...
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Fly320s:
"One image I saw had a scale attached that showed the dust cloud to be about 300 miles wide"
Was that a dust cloud, or just a water cloud like you get with an underwater explosion?
https://youtu.be/zMfkO5iUkb4 (1:11)
I think one of the main problems now is, as usual, potable water. Boiling salt water does not make it safe.
It still sounds overhyped to me. What's on page 37 or ten minutes after this lead-in story on TV that they're trying to downplay? < :sarcasm:
Pb:
"This sounds like a job for Ham radio..."
DE Terry, but I'm not on HF any more.
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Update
Mostly info on the eruptions effects on the atmosphere
Tonga Volcano Updates: Interesting And Somewhat Shocking Discoveries
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRSyW1TxAw4
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This sounds like a job for Ham radio...
FT8 protocol