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Newt Grasping at Straws
« on: January 18, 2012, 09:38:07 AM »
As Newt slowly runs down the political garbage disposal, here is his USA Armageddon last-ditch campaign message:


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/newt-gingrich-south-carolina-america-only-hope-130220792.html

Newt Gingrich to South Carolina: You’re my (and America’s) only hope

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COLUMBIA, S.C.--In a nutshell, here's Newt Gingrich's pitch to South Carolina this week, in four easy steps:

1. If you don't elect Gingrich on Saturday, he will lose the Republican presidential nomination.

2. If Gingrich loses the nomination, Mitt Romney will win it.

3. If Romney wins the nomination, he will lose to President Barack Obama in November.

4. If the Republican nominee loses in November, America, as we know it, is basically over.


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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 09:41:56 AM »
As Newt slowly runs down the political garbage disposal, here is his USA Armageddon last-ditch campaign message:


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/newt-gingrich-south-carolina-america-only-hope-130220792.html

Newt Gingrich to South Carolina: You’re my (and America’s) only hope


Seems to be In line with the GOP message of defeat Obama at all costs.  

The bridge is out ahead, and our choices seem to be the express train or the freight train.  Either way we go into the ravine.  I want the candidate who will pull the e-brake.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 10:33:57 AM »
Seems to be In line with the GOP message of defeat Obama at all costs. 

The bridge is out ahead, and our choices seem to be the express train or the freight train.  Either way we go into the ravine.  I want the candidate who will pull the e-brake.

That's what I'm looking for too. Unfortunately, too many of you are going for the guy who wants to derail the train to avoid the bridge. Yeah, we might not hit the bridge, but we'll still have a massive wreck. (For clarity, I'm talking about Ron Paul.)
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 10:54:06 AM »
That's what I'm looking for too. Unfortunately, too many of you are going for the guy who wants to derail the train to avoid the bridge. Yeah, we might not hit the bridge, but we'll still have a massive wreck. (For clarity, I'm talking about Ron Paul.)

Rofl. I hear things like this constantly, but I have yet to hear a Paul detractor cite one concrete example supporting a position like this.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 11:01:22 AM »
I don't much like Newt, or anybody else in the running, but what is so straw-grasping about what he said?

Is there something wrong with claiming he is the best candidate with the best chance of beating both Romney and Obama? That's what one expects from a politician running for an office.

Is there something wrong with claiming that Romney will not beat Obama?

Is there something wrong with claiming that four more years of Obama will be disastrous for the country?

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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 11:11:50 AM »
Politics as usual .... with a spin added....   Hey Newt; CURB YOUR TEMPER!
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 11:32:34 AM »
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 11:35:00 AM »
If you look at what Newt did and how he is rated during his time in congress he is the most "conservative" of the three at the top. Even so I'm not comfortable with him being the R candidate. Supporting role, cabinet position yes, President, not so sure.

Right now I'm not seeing where any establishment candidate can get my vote. Looks like I may be voting for Ron Paul again, I've come full circle since '88. I know he won't win but it will be a pure vote, one my conscience can live with.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 12:25:57 PM »
I agree with 3. and .4
I'm not excited about the Newt for the anti-obama candidate but I would consider buying a big screen TV and even pay-per-view if I could watch a debate Obama vs the Newt.
and I haven't owned a TV for 16 years.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 01:01:54 PM »
Can we transplant Newt into Mitt's body?

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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2012, 07:48:40 PM »
That's what I'm looking for too. Unfortunately, too many of you are going for the guy who wants to derail the train to avoid the bridge. Yeah, we might not hit the bridge, but we'll still have a massive wreck. (For clarity, I'm talking about Ron Paul.)

Uh huh....
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2012, 08:12:10 PM »
"Is there something wrong with claiming he is the best candidate with the best chance of beating both Romney and Obama? That's what one expects from a politician running for an office."
It's funny, seeing as he hasn't had a top-3 slot in the last two races, and his national vs. Obama polls are lower than Paul.

"Is there something wrong with claiming that Romney will not beat Obama?"
Also funny, since Newt's national numbers vs Obama are lower than Paul's, and Paul is lower than Romney, and Romney generally fares better than Obama in these polls.

"Is there something wrong with claiming that four more years of Obama will be disastrous for the country?"
The implied notion that Romney or Gingrich would be any better.  :P

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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2012, 09:49:38 PM »
"Is there something wrong with claiming he is the best candidate with the best chance of beating both Romney and Obama? That's what one expects from a politician running for an office."
It's funny, seeing as he hasn't had a top-3 slot in the last two races, and his national vs. Obama polls are lower than Paul.

"Is there something wrong with claiming that Romney will not beat Obama?"
Also funny, since Newt's national numbers vs Obama are lower than Paul's, and Paul is lower than Romney, and Romney generally fares better than Obama in these polls.

"Is there something wrong with claiming that four more years of Obama will be disastrous for the country?"
The implied notion that Romney or Gingrich would be any better.  :P


Gingrich would be light years better than either Romney or Obama. Here is a link to Project Vote Smart. Peruse how he actually operated while in office. Speculating he would be no better than Obama hardly warrants a reply.

 http://www.votesmart.org/candidate/evaluations/26821/newt-gingrich
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2012, 10:41:05 PM »
That's what I'm looking for too. Unfortunately, too many of you are going for the guy who wants to derail the train to avoid the bridge. Yeah, we might not hit the bridge, but we'll still have a massive wreck. (For clarity, I'm talking about Ron Paul.)

Really now.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2012, 11:30:47 PM »

Newt is also the candidate with the worst morality of everyone in the running, AFAIK. No way I could vote for the dude with a clean conscious. 
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2012, 03:45:47 AM »
Judging from what he has been saying in debates, Newt is the candidate most likely to sweep in a full blown Police State. I don't trust that man with the powers that the Executive branch has [wrongly] attributed to itself over the past decade. In fact I don't trust most of the candidates, but him... he's just itching for the power.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2012, 11:43:43 AM »
I think Obama is doing plenty well all by himself, we needn't worry about Gingrich.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2012, 12:52:21 AM »
Newt has big ideas; unfortunately they all require big government.  And big government requires small citizens.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 05:37:22 PM »
Newt has big ideas; unfortunately they all require big government.  And big government requires small citizens.
Exactly correct! His extra large ego would sine brightly. There in lies the problem.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2012, 12:02:59 PM »
I'd say that what Newt offers is big government that serves what I'm calling First America, not Second America.  The perception out there is that "government" is utterly alienated from the people who built and sustain America.  Right or wrong this what half or more of this nation really believes.  They want that changed.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2012, 12:44:49 PM »
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I'd say that what Newt offers is big government that serves what I'm calling First America, not Second America. The perception out there is that "government" is utterly alienated from the people who built and sustain America.  Right or wrong this what half or more of this nation really believes. They want that changed.

Who would you say fits into the first group?




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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2012, 01:27:49 PM »
I'll put it this way: Government is not supposed to be just about serving minorities and the less able.  It is supposed to protect the country and serve as an honest referee for individual achievement.  People used to understand that; a lot still do.
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2012, 04:34:13 PM »
Can we transplant Newt into Mitt's body?

Give him time, he'll run out of women eventually, and that'll be all that's left.

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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2012, 04:40:18 PM »
To think Newt could have solved his personal issues just by being a polygamist...
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Re: Newt Grasping at Straws
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2012, 04:44:31 PM »
To think Newt could have solved his personal issues just by being a polygamist...

Not sure how serious you are. You mean by declaring himself to be the victim of discriminatory marriage laws that favor monogamous heteros?


It is somewhat interesting that, compared to serial monogamists like McCain, Gingrich, and so many others, it's the Mormon guy that's just sticking with the one wife for so long.  =)
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