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Utah town limits dog ownership
« on: January 07, 2007, 11:18:58 AM »
A small ski town in Utah limits the dog population to 12 percent of the human population on the premiss that dog crap might contaminate the water supply.  These sound like the sort of people who would give the wrong answer to the question, "Do bears crap in the woods?"  People wait 10+ years for a permit, though the mayor can grant extras if there is a "good reason".  The police can demand a dog license from anyone they see walking a dog, and it appears they vigorously enforce all dog laws.

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/news/16404278.htm?source=rss&channel=cctimes_news

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In one Utah town, dog ownership is high politics
With licenses limited, animal lovers have taken to smuggling and other far-fetched schemes to keep their canines
By Paul Foy
ASSOCIATED PRESS

ALTA, Utah - Every January when dog licenses come up for renewal, dog lovers at this ski town go wild with anticipation. They start counting the dogs rumored to have died or moved away with their owners, hoping that a few of the finite number of licenses will be up for grabs.

And if the license lottery leaves them empty-handed, they can always try pestering the mayor, who can issue his own licenses for good cause or compassion.

"It's the worst issue I deal with," said Mayor Tom Pollard, who is manager of Rustler Lodge. "The day after I was elected, I got my first call -- I hadn't even gotten to the job. They disguised it as a question about garbage service, then finished with, 'Can I have a dog?'"

To protect the alpine watershed, an ordinance in this former silver town limits the number of dogs to 12 percent of the human population, with few exceptions. No four-legged visitors are allowed, even inside cars, and violators can go to jail.

For now, the town council keeps the lid at 42 licenses, even though it could add two more dogs under the formula tied to Alta's population of 370 old-timers, ski bums, business owners and resort employees.

"I never heard of a place limiting dog licenses," said Stephan Otto, a lawyer and legislative director for the Animal Legal Defense Fund, which tracks dog ordinances. "It sounds a little European."

Mark Hoffman, a 56-year-old lawyer and avowed ski bum, said, "It's almost impossible to get one. It took me 11 years of trying.

"They'll have 17 people wanting a dog for only two or three licenses," he said.

Alta occupies 4 square miles inside a national forest where a special act of Congress left Salt Lake City in charge of the water supply. The city and county police the canyons, keeping out nonresident or unlicensed dogs to curb bacterial contamination of streams and protect Salt Lake's drinking water.

The scramble for dog licenses in Alta has people chatting about dearly departed Kali that belonged to Alta's former mayor, Bill Levitt, and his wife, Mimi.

But the Levitts say they are not giving up the license. Under the ordinance, they have six months to find a new Fido to romp with kids at their Alta Lodge. Their shepherd mix, a stray dog they adopted at puppyhood, died of old age Dec. 4.

"She was the official greeter at Alta Lodge, a real sweetie for 141/2 years," Mimi Levitt said.

Property owners who live in Alta for at least six months of the year get first dibs on the dog licenses. Any leftovers are distributed at drawings held at high noon by a town marshal, and they go next to part-time business or property owners, then lastly to seasonal employees.

"A person who wants a dog finds it hard to understand," Levitt said. "They'll say, 'Well, how about that guy? He has a dog.'"

It's too early to tell if any of the 42 licenses will become available in 2007, but that's why the mayor has the power of dog pardon. He can throw dog lovers a bone, granting "compassion" licenses temporarily and signing off on things such as dogs at weddings.

"It's one of the most critical issues I ever had to face," Levitt, who was mayor for 34 years until last January, said of the whole dog equation. "It is not a fun thing. I asked the new mayor, 'Do you hate dogs?' He said, 'No, I just hate the procedure.'"

Deputy town marshal Tom Bolen says he has heard practically every excuse from visitors caught smuggling dogs. They claimed not to have seen the warning signs or thought they referred only to a leash law or believed the ban was only for vicious dogs.

Three months into his job, Bolen said he had issued dozens of warnings to illegal dog walkers and two citations. Violations typically are settled in justice court for $65, but repeat offenders can risk 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

The crime blotter, a must-read in the town's monthly newsletter, reveals actual and perceived violations of the 12-page dog ordinance.

Many are cited for "having a dog in the watershed," but one woman complained she was picking up "more than her share" of dog poop in town. Deputies can summon dog walkers anytime to show proof of a plastic bag for cleanup. Nonpossession is a violation.

The area's handful of avalanche rescue dogs don't count against the licensed dog limit -- "as long as they have their little jackets on," Town Clerk Kate Black said. The same goes for service dogs for the disabled.

Maureen Hill-Hauck, executive director of the American Dog Owners Association, called Alta's ordinance "totally ridiculous."

"No other town limits dogs. How can people live without dogs?" she said. "It sounds like a total and complete violation of a person's civil rights. How dare they?"

Alta has its own doubters who can be counted on to raise the deer-and-moose argument: "My gosh, look at all the wild animals up here that leave their tracings," as Black recounts it.

Town officials' rebuttal is that the manufactured or human food dogs eat makes for more potent poop than the forage wild animals browse.

Sometimes, despite the ordinance, a mayor just can't say no.

Sean Walton, manager of Alf's Restaurant on the slopes, shares a tiny apartment with his fiance and her invalid German shepherd atop a lift ticket office at Alta. Their temporary dog license -- their second -- was good only through the end of the year. Walton and his fiance, a nurse, asked the mayor for another extension, long enough to get them to the next town drawing May 1, if anything's available.

The alternative, they said, was sending the dog back to the woman's ex-husband, a Colorado doctor who travels overseas doing surgery for Operation Smile. That would mean a future of dog kennels for 14-year-old Marta, who "gets real lonely," Walton said. "It would just kill me to see her live out the rest of her life without companionship."

Then came good fortune via the mayor.

"We're both really happy about it," Walton said. "The mayor was as nice as you could expect. We just ran into him at the grocery store and he said, 'You've got your permit.'"

Pollard said he was giving Walton a compassion license for the remainder of Marta's life.

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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2007, 12:45:13 PM »
I suspect that if the townsfolk got upset enough about it a politician(s) would run on getting rid of the law.

The whole picking up dog poo thing is just icky.

That's one of the reasons I don't have a dog.


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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2007, 12:45:51 PM »
I know Muslims don't like dogs, at least dogs living in houses.  Do Mormons have regs against dogs or something? shocked

This is really European:  to regulate for no other reason but to be regulating.  The government exists therefore it must regulate. police

So, is there any evidence that Salt Lake City's water is filled with dog poo?  Is this really a problem or is it just an opporunity for the government to have more power over people? police

Gee, wonder what the answer to that one is? grin
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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2007, 12:51:59 PM »
The whole picking up dog poo thing is just icky.

That's one of the reasons I don't have a dog.

The whole pick-up-your-dog-crap mentality is going overboard, in my opinion.  Now they want dog walkers to pick up the turds in an open space area where cattle graze near my home.  Dog crap is .1% the problem that cow pies are, which aren't even much of a problem in my eye, and we have to pick up the crap?

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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2007, 02:09:03 PM »
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I know Muslims don't like dogs, at least dogs living in houses.  Do Mormons have regs against dogs or something?
No, us Mormons like dogs as much as the next person; this has more to do with Alta. The ski-towns around here tend a bit towards liberalism, with its attached "eco-concern." That said, there are state regulations with regards to domestic animals being in watershed areas (generally mountainous, non-populated areas) in many places in the state. First I've heard of an actual town placing regulations like that on its citizens here, though. Would definitely be a mark against me ever wanting to live in Alta.

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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2007, 02:40:21 PM »
but beavers aren't a problem, huh?

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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2007, 02:41:11 PM »
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I know Muslims don't like dogs, at least dogs living in houses.  Do Mormons have regs against dogs or something?
No, us Mormon's like dogs as much as the next person...

I'd always heard that Mormons eschewed alcohol and caffeine, preferring their relaxants/stimulants instead in the form of smokeless powder and hoppes #9. Cheesy
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« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2007, 03:34:28 PM »
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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2007, 06:02:41 PM »
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I suspect that if the townsfolk got upset enough about it a politician(s) would run on getting rid of the law.

As they have a population of only 370, and so many want permits, I'd imagine it'd only take all the dog owners and people who want dogs to mob a town council meeting or set up a petition and get the law changed directly.

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2007, 06:43:24 PM »
You know who's behind all of this, don't you?

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« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2007, 04:21:47 AM »
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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2007, 08:26:18 PM »
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"I never heard of a place limiting dog licenses," said Stephan Otto, a lawyer and legislative director for the Animal Legal Defense Fund, which tracks dog ordinances. "It sounds a little European."

What a damning statement!  And while I don't see anything illegal about the ordnance, it still is remarkably stupid.  Where is all that human poop going?  What about the influx of skiers?  Doesn't that tax the sewage capacity?

Forget the townsfolk.  Have a thousand visitors write the mayor and tell him they will longer spend their money in his town.  Wanna see a law change fast?  police
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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2007, 03:46:20 AM »
I wouldn't consider Alta a "mormon" town.....its a resort town, its a very small town, and very pictueresque (sp?).....no, the Momons don't have anything against dogs, either.
As Marnoot said, the ski towns are usually quite liberal.....and IMHO lean a bit socialist....primary reason I didn't move to Park City.....
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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2007, 12:26:06 PM »
Does Salt Lake City not treat the water before they put it in the potable water system? 
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« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2007, 03:13:06 PM »
Does Salt Lake City not treat the water before they put it in the potable water system? 

Beats the dog poo out of me, but they refuse to allow dogs in the canyons that feed the water supply.  I think its against the law for deer to poo in the supply, too......
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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2007, 03:34:18 PM »
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No four-legged visitors are allowed, even inside cars, and violators can go to jail.
So if you happen to be driving through with fido, they are going to try to arrest you?

What about felines??  I'm not a dog person at all, but I love cats the sigother and I have 4 of them.
I'd put money on the fact that feline poop is more volitile then canine. (not much mind you as I have no scientific basis.. just a hunch)


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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2007, 08:11:23 PM »
We'll see more and more of this as the retentive types from *those* states (no names mentioned) continue to surge into the mountain west.  Heck even Anchorage has passed a broad smoking ban.

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Re: Utah town limits dog ownership
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