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Title: White House Down
Post by: drewtam on June 17, 2013, 11:42:45 AM
I went to see the new Man of Steel yesterday with the wife. One of the commercials before the movie was for "White House Down". From what I can tell, its a feature length puff piece for Obama. The first movie I ever recall making the POTUS a live action hero.

I kid you not, this is a scene quote as I remember it...
<car chase/ moving gun fight scene>
"Mr President, I know you are a man of peace, but I need you to take this [pistol] and shoot while I drive us out of here."

The next movie commercial was something about corporate CEOs hiring spies, and killing anyone that gets in the way of corporate power.

Am I seeing partisanship where there is none?


Anyway, Man of Steel was meh. I went because my BIL played an extra and got a micro second of blurry screen time. I didn't notice anything overtly political in it, so at least it wasn't insulting.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: zxcvbob on June 17, 2013, 11:55:04 AM
I went to see the new Man of Steel yesterday with the wife. One of the commercials before the movie was for "White House Down". From what I can tell, its a feature length puff piece for Obama. The first movie I ever recall making the POTUS a live action hero.

I thought Harrison Ford played a president that was kind of like Dubya reimagined as a warrior in a nice suit.  I can't recall the movie.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: SADShooter on June 17, 2013, 11:58:31 AM
I thought Harrison Ford played a president that was kind of like Dubya reimagined as a warrior in a nice suit.  I can't recall the movie.


Air Force One.

Then there was Bill Pullman as the fighter jock President who took on alien invaders in Independence Day.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: TechMan on June 17, 2013, 11:59:15 AM
I thought Harrison Ford played a president that was kind of like Dubya reimagined as a warrior in a nice suit.  I can't recall the movie.


Air Force One (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118571/)
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 17, 2013, 12:02:10 PM
Air Force One (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118571/)

That was pre-Dubya.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: TechMan on June 17, 2013, 12:03:34 PM
Air Force One.

Then there was Bill Pullman as the fighter jock President who took on alien invaders in Independence Day.

Beat me to it by seconds.....
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: HankB on June 17, 2013, 12:26:35 PM
George Washington played an action hero, too . . . even if it was in a car commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqpJvey-7-s

And of course, more recently, there was Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter.   :rofl:
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: Viking on June 17, 2013, 12:31:53 PM
George Washington played an action hero, too . . . even if it was in a car commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqpJvey-7-s

And of course, more recently, there was Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter.   :rofl:
Far more believable than Obama as an action hero.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: SADShooter on June 17, 2013, 12:47:30 PM
Far less believable than Obama as an inaction zero.

FTFY.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: drewtam on June 17, 2013, 01:43:12 PM
Good points. I never saw AF1, completely forgot about it. Independence Day, I should have remembered that one.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: charby on June 17, 2013, 01:49:55 PM
Here is Obamaman (http://www.jibjab.com/originals/hes_barack_obama)!
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: roo_ster on June 17, 2013, 02:08:29 PM
I went to see the new Man of Steel yesterday with the wife. One of the commercials before the movie was for "White House Down". From what I can tell, its a feature length puff piece for Obama. The first movie I ever recall making the POTUS a live action hero.

I kid you not, this is a scene quote as I remember it...
<car chase/ moving gun fight scene>
"Mr President, I know you are a man of peace, but I need you to take this [pistol] and shoot while I drive us out of here."

The next movie commercial was something about corporate CEOs hiring spies, and killing anyone that gets in the way of corporate power.


Am I seeing partisanship where there is none?


Anyway, Man of Steel was meh. I went because my BIL played an extra and got a micro second of blurry screen time. I didn't notice anything overtly political in it, so at least it wasn't insulting.

Funny thing is, they got is completely bass-ackwards.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: CNYCacher on June 17, 2013, 03:03:24 PM
Was Obama himself in this movie?  ???
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: Tallpine on June 17, 2013, 03:48:56 PM
Was Obama himself in this movie?  ???

No, he was too busy playing golf so they had to hire a black actor.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: bedlamite on June 17, 2013, 04:13:30 PM
Air Force One.

Then there was Bill Pullman as the fighter jock President who took on alien invaders in Independence Day.

I preferred Jack Nicholson in Mars Attacks!
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: zxcvbob on June 17, 2013, 04:24:25 PM
or Peter Sellers ("Merkin Muffley") in the war room.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: Regolith on June 18, 2013, 01:45:02 AM
George Washington played an action hero, too . . . even if it was in a car commercial.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqpJvey-7-s

He played one in real life too. (http://www.cracked.com/article_20182_5-reasons-george-washington-was-either-lucky-or-wizard.html)
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: erictank on June 18, 2013, 06:09:45 AM
or Peter Sellers ("Merkin Muffley") in the war room.

"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room."
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: Devonai on June 18, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
Aren't you guys forgetting when President Palmer ran a specops team?

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Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: Boomhauer on June 18, 2013, 12:18:42 PM
It's Hollywierd. Who the *expletive deleted*ck in their right mind gives a *expletive deleted*it?

Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: Tallpine on June 18, 2013, 12:27:02 PM
It's Hollywierd. Who the *expletive deleted* in their right mind gives a *expletive deleted*?



The trailer is an ad on you tube now.

So I'm trying to watch videos of the Black Forest fire ....
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on June 18, 2013, 01:54:44 PM
24's presidents always creeped me out.

They all felt like they were conditioning the public for crappy presidents.  The weasely white president was clearly Bush, the black one was a premonition of Obama, and the woman from the last couple seasons was clearly Hillary.

And the whole lot of them made the choice to sacrifice liberty for safety, every damn time given the option to do so.  Horrible creatures.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: cordex on June 18, 2013, 02:02:07 PM
Aren't you guys forgetting when President Palmer ran a specops team?

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"Go for Blaine."
"Is that so?"
"How 'bout that?"
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: zxcvbob on June 18, 2013, 02:18:58 PM
24's presidents always creeped me out.

They all felt like they were conditioning the public for crappy presidents.  The weasely white president was clearly Bush, the black one was a premonition of Obama, and the woman from the last couple seasons was clearly Hillary.

And the whole lot of them made the choice to sacrifice liberty for safety, every damn time given the option to do so.  Horrible creatures.

I watched the first season of 24 and maybe one episode of the 2nd season.  When Jack murdered a sleazebag that was in FBI custody to get "street creds", shot him and then cut off his head with a pocketknife or something like that, I turned it off and never watched again.  It was supposed to be OK because he was accused of being a child molester (a long time ago, I don't recall the details)

The whole series is just propaganda for "the government can do *anything* it wants when we're dealing with terr'rists".  And who is a terr'rist?  It's whomever the government says it is.  The filming it in real time was a cool gimmick, I'll give 'em that.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: TommyGunn on June 18, 2013, 02:24:11 PM
24's presidents always creeped me out.

They all felt like they were conditioning the public for crappy presidents.  The weasely white president was clearly Bush, the black one was a premonition of Obama, and the woman from the last couple seasons was clearly Hillary.

And the whole lot of them made the choice to sacrifice liberty for safety, every damn time given the option to do so.  Horrible creatures.

I did not get the idea that President Palmer was an "Obama wannabe," Palmer was actually competent, moreso than Obama.  The "weasely white" one was hardly Bush it was just a weaselly white guy who couldn't take a decision between chicken and fish for dinner let alone decisions that could cost lives.  

I watched the first season of 24 and maybe one episode of the 2nd season.  When Jack murdered a sleazebag that was in FBI custody to get "street creds", shot him and then cut off his head with a pocketknife or something like that, I turned it off and never watched again.  It was supposed to be OK because he was accused of being a child molester (a long time ago, I don't recall the details)

The whole series is just propaganda for "the government can do *anything* it wants when we're dealing with terr'rists".  And who is a terr'rist?  It's whomever the government says it is.  The filming it in real time was a cool gimmick, I'll give 'em that.


Meh.  It was a TV show.  The lesser evils were only "justifiable" insofar as they prevented a greater evil.  It bothered me when Jack was forced to murder a fellow agent in an early episode ... but it was only a TV show.

All in all it's like disliking Star Trek because superluminal velocities violate known laws of physics.  It's a TV show.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: HankB on June 20, 2013, 10:55:42 AM
. . . All in all it's like disliking Star Trek because superluminal velocities violate known laws of physics.  It's a TV show.
Star Trek was meant to be science fiction, with a story set centuries in the future. So I found it easier to suspend disbelief at Warp 9 starships than it was to see Jack Bauer drive from one end of LA to the other and back in a matter of minutes during rush hour . . . and find convenient on-street parking at both ends.

Oh, and I think the inspiration for the sleazy white-guy president was Nixon, not Bush; he even looked a little like the former.
Title: Re: White House Down
Post by: TommyGunn on June 20, 2013, 12:22:26 PM
Star Trek was meant to be science fiction, with a story set centuries in the future. So I found it easier to suspend disbelief at Warp 9 starships than it was to see Jack Bauer drive from one end of LA to the other and back in a matter of minutes during rush hour . . . and find convenient on-street parking at both ends.


It probably would be easier to engineer  a warp-drive starship than drive across L.A. during rush hour..... :rofl:

You're not the first to notice that.  Anyone who's had to navigate any large city would probably wonder how Bauer got where he was going there. 
BUT again it's ONLY a TV show ..... [tinfoil]