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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on November 06, 2019, 10:28:07 AM
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Another wacko gun grabber idea: Force ammo manufacturers to make ammo that won't fit in any current gun. ;/
https://www.courant.com/opinion/op-ed/hc-op-berler-ammunition-20191105-bmfxmme6qzhe3horcsnc7mbufy-story.html
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Well, seeing he doesn't seem to have any real world life experiences outside of a liberal sphere (as far as I can tell) do you expect Nobel prize worthy ideas? =|
https://www.ronberlerbooks.com/about-the-author/
As often happens he can only see the end result he hopes for, the rendering useless of guns. Did he give any thought to the people rendered jobless, the companies going out of business or the ability of people to "roll their own"?
What a maroon!
bob
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Well, seeing he doesn't seem to have any real world life experiences outside of a liberal sphere (as far as I can tell) do you expect Nobel prize worthy ideas? =|
https://www.ronberlerbooks.com/about-the-author/
As often happens he can only see the end result he hopes for, the rendering useless of guns. Did he give any thought to the people rendered jobless, the companies going out of business or the ability of people to "roll their own"?
What a maroon!
bob
The thing is, I bet this guy thinks it's just an absolutely brilliant idea, like he was sitting in his barcolounger and the thought bubble light bulb popped up putting out 1000 watts.
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As our absent friend CSD would have said: That article is Factually Challenged.
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What? He's not proposing a new tax? Isn't that how problems in society are conclusively solved, through new taxes? I mean, it worked so well in eliminating poverty...
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Have we tried taxing poverty....?
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I’m afraid we have to admit we’ve been beaten on this one, guys. I mean, look at the second amendment. It specifically says it applies only to firearms themselves, and not to the ammunition they use.
Plus, the gun industry only has a National Rifle Association. They totally forgot about forming a National Boolit Association to protect their death-murder-cop-killer boolits.
Game over man! Game over!
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No, but the Dems laid a whole series of new taxes to fight Johnson's War on Poverty... Several 10s of billions of dollars later and... poverty is winning.
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Never seen bullet casting or reloading machines, has he?
Don't tell him about the 12ga conversion sleeves that allow you to shoot .22 and .38sp through a shotgun, or even a flare gun.
Or "Navy" Garands, that had a plug shoved into the chamber shoulder that permanently converted them from .30-06 to 7.62x51.
Adapting a .355, .400, .429 or .451 diameter firearm bore and chamber for a new cartridge is just a matter of a drop-in barrel in many cases. .400 Cor-bon? All those Glock 23's that were sold in .40 but are shooting 9mm now thanks to aftermarket barrels?
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No, but the Dems laid a whole series of new taxes to fight Johnson's War on Poverty... Several 10s of billions of dollars later and... poverty is winning.
Because it never was about defeating poverty, it was about creating a large class of people completely depended on the government and thus controllable. Don't forget this also includes the large number of people in govt who work in welfare programs
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Of course he's from Connecticut. Look at who represents Connecticut in Washington to get a sense of the mentality.
It must be something in the water.
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Because it never was about defeating poverty, it was about creating a large class of people completely depended on the government and thus controllable. Don't forget this also includes the large number of people in govt who work in welfare programs
Dammit shut your mouth! Everyone knows that, but they're not crass enough to SAY that... Geesh!
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It's the same sort of "reasoning" as the CO2 solution is to build cars that run on unicorn farts. It's the perfect answer, unless you want to drive a car. The only difference is they actually go places in cars but can't imagine a legitimate use for a gun except by the government.
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Or "Navy" Garands, that had a plug shoved into the chamber shoulder that permanently converted them from .30-06 to 7.62x51.
Thread drift: that conversion wasn't entirely permanent. The plug is known to sometimes eject along with the spent case, converting the M1 back to .30-06 (oftentimes without the shooter's knowledge).
All those Glock 23's that were sold in .40 but are shooting 9mm now thanks to aftermarket barrels?
Yup. Got one of those 9x19 conversion barrels in a Springfield XD40. Runs great. I can even use the XD40 magazines.
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Sweet! I'm going to get the .46 that I always wanted!
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Thread drift: that conversion wasn't entirely permanent. The plug is known to sometimes eject along with the spent case, converting the M1 back to .30-06 (oftentimes without the shooter's knowledge).
That seems unhealthy.
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That seems unhealthy.
It's the Navy. They do a lot of unhealthy things.
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That seems unhealthy.
Fun fact... .308s will fire just fine in a 30-06 chamber, not sure about what kind of velocity they get though.
I've seen it a few times.
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I guess this guy has never heard of replacement barrels or resizing barrels. He doesn't realize how long ammo can be stored.
He also doesn't appreciate the creativity of gun owners and makers. If they outlawed 45 ACP, there would soon be a new caliber called 45 EDKH (Epstein Didn't Kill Himself) that would be one or two mils difference in diameter and a few pounds different in case pressure and still work in 45 ACP barrels.
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Why do you carry a .45?
Because they don't make a .46!
Just think how many years and millions of pages of internet would have to be searched so that old joke could be scrubbed and replaced with the new improved version.
=D
bob
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I guess this guy has never heard of replacement barrels or resizing barrels. He doesn't realize how long ammo can be stored.
He also doesn't appreciate the creativity of gun owners and makers. If they outlawed 45 ACP, there would soon be a new caliber called 45 EDKH (Epstein Didn't Kill Himself) that would be one or two mils difference in diameter and a few pounds different in case pressure and still work in 45 ACP barrels.
45 GAP is kind of close to that idea
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Don't worry, they would likely forget about 50 GI and we could just buy conversion barrels.
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And do they know that 38 is not actually 38?
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Can you imagine a gun grabber who knows little about guns trying to make sense of the long and detailed history of calibers to include all the historical calibers, modern calibers, wildcats, etc, etc. Their heads would explode before they got through it.
I always thought the bullet control argument was more of a joke than anything realistic.
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And do they know that 38 is not actually 38?
Probably not. They would think the new 358 MDK (Murder/Death/Kill) was actually new.
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Can you imagine a gun grabber who knows little about guns trying to make sense of the long and detailed history of calibers to include all the historical calibers, modern calibers, wildcats, etc, etc. Their heads would explode before they got through it.
I've been involved in firearms as a hobby for 45+ years now and am still constantly discovering cartridges I didn't know not to mention trying to keep up with the news ones coming out.
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No, but the Dems laid a whole series of new taxes to fight Johnson's War on Poverty... Several 10s of billions trillions of dollars later and... poverty is winning.
Fixed it for you.
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No, but the Dems laid a whole series of new taxes to fight Johnson's War on Poverty... Several 10s of billions of roughly twenty trillion dollars later and... poverty is winning.
FIFY - and since 2012, welfare spending has been running a bit over one trillion per year.
Any similarity between welfare spending and the national debt / annual deficit is not coincidental.
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And do they know that 38 is not actually 38?
Which .38 are you talking about? .38 Special, .38 Super, .380 ACP, ...? (Of course, none of them are actually .38 caliber. Which just reinforces your point.)
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I have a navy 7.62x51 garand that is barreled and marked for the caliber, no chamber insert. Nope, not sharing.
*Kicks dirt* Dunno what I'm going to do with all of this .355 auto and .429 magnum. :)
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He also doesn't appreciate the creativity of gun owners and makers.
They never do.
And then you have people that think a magazine is trashed after one use. :rofl:
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I haven't seen this whole video yet, but the first couple of minutes relate to gun laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNudt52BukY
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Sweet! I'm going to get the .46 that I always wanted!
.46 Remington Rimfire...
Remington cap & ball revolvers from the Civil War were converted to this cartridge and issued to black troops post war, including the 9th and 10th colored cavalry units. There's some indication that they were still armed with the conversions when the units were sent to service in the Spanish American War and the Philippines.
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Related:
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1192154714730881031?s=09
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EItiZR0WwAA5BSZ.jpg:large)