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Title: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: SteveS on April 19, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
He seems to be upset that the NRA would jump on the gun control bandwagon.  I would boycott their beer, but I already couldn't stand them.

"WASHINGTON -- Adolphus Busch IV, heir to the Busch family brewing fortune, resigned his lifetime membership in the National Rifle Association on Thursday, writing in a letter to NRA President David Keene, "I fail to see how the NRA can disregard the overwhelming will of its members who see background checks as reasonable."

Here is the article:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/18/adolphus-busch-iv-nra_n_3112750.html

The thing that I don't understand is that gun manufacturers don't appear to be overly represented on the board.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Ron on April 19, 2013, 01:09:54 PM
Good riddance.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: SADShooter on April 19, 2013, 01:11:40 PM
Why did they associate themselves with brewers of canned urine in the first place? [barf]

+1 Ron
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Tallpine on April 19, 2013, 01:12:45 PM
He must think that his own will is overwhelming  ;/
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Ben on April 19, 2013, 01:24:07 PM
"I fail to see how the NRA can disregard the overwhelming will of its members who see background checks as reasonable."

Someone that out of touch with reality had no place on the board to begin with. Are we sure he wasn't a Brady campaign plant?
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Scout26 on April 19, 2013, 01:42:20 PM
The only survey of NRA members was done by the NRA (since they don't give your their member list), so anyone else that says "NRA members overwhelming support X" is FOS.  

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articles/2013/3/dont-believe-everything-you-read.aspx?s=Member+survey&st=&ps=

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NRA's survey results showed that 93% of our members oppose laws requiring gun owners to register with the federal government, and 92% oppose federal laws banning the sale of firearms between private citizens.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: lee n. field on April 19, 2013, 01:48:42 PM
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WASHINGTON -- Adolphus Busch IV, heir to the Busch family brewing fortune, resigned his lifetime membership in the National Rifle Association on Thursday, writing in a letter to NRA President David Keene, "I fail to see how the NRA can disregard the overwhelming will of its members who see background checks as reasonable

Say what?
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: SteveS on April 19, 2013, 01:57:06 PM
Someone that out of touch with reality had no place on the board to begin with. Are we sure he wasn't a Brady campaign plant?

He wasn't on the board.  He was just resigning his membership.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: HankB on April 19, 2013, 02:18:49 PM
He wasn't on the board.  He was just resigning his membership.
Bush 41 resigned his membership because the NRA wouldn't endorse him for President when he ran for re-election . . . although he said that it was because nasty things were said about the BATmen. It wouldn't surprise me if there was something else besides the public reason behind this resignation; citing the lie (whoops, let me put that in caps) CITING THE LIE that most NRA members want more background checks as the reason looks clearly calculated to curry favor with the media and/or the Obama administration.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Ben on April 19, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
He wasn't on the board.  He was just resigning his membership.

Ah, correction noted. There are probably a lot of people that sign up for life memberships that don't necessarily have anything but their own self-interest at heart. He probably figured a life membership would sell a lot of beer to that guy in the Mayors Hate Guns Bloomberg commercial.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: roo_ster on April 19, 2013, 03:24:11 PM
Regression toward the mean in action.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 19, 2013, 04:33:18 PM
A local boy, eh?

I am now even more pleased with my decision to renew my NRA membership.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 19, 2013, 05:11:08 PM
I would boycott their beer, but I already couldn't stand them.

They don't own it anymore, they got bought out by InBev a few years ago.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: rcnixon on April 20, 2013, 11:45:39 PM
Good riddance.

  To bad rubbish; as my grandmother used to say.

Russ
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Hutch on April 21, 2013, 02:04:33 PM
Ciao, babe.  Don't let the door hit, etc.  And I don't care if his family doesn't own it any more, until he recants, I will never buy another Annheuser Busch product.  Which mean never, forever, I suppose.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 21, 2013, 08:18:44 PM
Ciao, babe.  Don't let the door hit, etc.  And I don't care if his family doesn't own it any more, until he recants, I will never buy another Annheuser Busch product.  Which mean never, forever, I suppose.

Like I typed a few posts ago, the Busch family sold the brewing operations to In-Bev a few years ago. So you are not protesting the Busch family by not buying those beers under that brand.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: dogmush on April 21, 2013, 08:29:47 PM
But you are avoiding bad beer. That's a righteous undertaking in itself.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 21, 2013, 09:03:16 PM
But you are avoiding bad beer. That's a righteous undertaking in itself.

Drinking mass quantities of American light lager = No Hangover.

Drinking mass quantities of micro brew = Wicked Hangover.



Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: SADShooter on April 21, 2013, 09:47:12 PM
Drinking mass quantities of American light lager = No Hangover.

Drinking mass quantities of micro brew = Wicked Hangover.





Quality beer at higher ABV doesn't necessarily require mass consumption to achieve a buzz.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: gunsmith on April 22, 2013, 12:29:35 AM
Even when I was a heavy drinker I would never buy that crud.

This Life Member is against 90 percent of all gun laws.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Hutch on April 22, 2013, 08:55:55 AM
Like I typed a few posts ago, the Busch family sold the brewing operations to In-Bev a few years ago. So you are not prosting the Busch family buy not buying those beers under that brand.
Yep, i acknowledged that fact in my post.  I'm sending a message.  Just like: I won't buy a GM product of any sort, even those made prior to the "Government Motors" era.  I wish every beer drinker in this country to do the same, until InBev buys ad time to distance themselves from Li'l Augie.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: grampster on April 22, 2013, 09:18:17 AM
Fortunately, we have several outstanding micro brewers here in W. Michigan.  Don't have to drink the industrialized swill.  One of them, Perrins Brewery is less than  5 miles from my house.  They have a brew pub there that does great bar food.

Life Member here.  I don't get where this 90% figure comes from.  A recent Gallup poll showed that only 4% of respondents concerned about gun control.  I always talk about Unintended Consequences with respect to laws.  That's why emotionalism being used to promote laws is stupid.  If we got background checks and other means of "control" to the extent that leftists/statists wanted, all it would do is drive gun sales into the black market.  I want to give my son a firearm and we need to pay for a background check?  How stupid is that.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: HankB on April 22, 2013, 10:26:00 AM
Like I typed a few posts ago, the Busch family sold the brewing operations to In-Bev a few years ago. So you are not prosting the Busch family buy not buying those beers under that brand.
So . . . before dissing the NRA, an American institution since 1871, the Busch family sold an iconic beer brand to FOREIGN interests. And they did it before Obama's higher tax rates phased in.

To borrow words from BHO - " . . . That's unpatriotic."
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 03:21:06 PM
So . . . before dissing the NRA, an American institution since 1871, the Busch family sold an iconic beer brand to FOREIGN interests. And they did it before Obama's higher tax rates phased in.

To borrow words from BHO - " . . . That's unpatriotic."

Most traditional American brewery groups are owned by foreign interests.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 03:23:23 PM
Quality beer at higher ABV doesn't necessarily require mass consumption to achieve a buzz.

In Iowa cheap American beer is 5-6% and Microbrews are 5-6%.

I don't like the taste of many higher alcohol content beers, many are like licking the inside of a burned out coffee pot full of cigarette butts or directly chewing on a hop leaf covered in burnt grains.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 03:24:13 PM
Yep, i acknowledged that fact in my post.  I'm sending a message.  Just like: I won't buy a GM product of any sort, even those made prior to the "Government Motors" era.  I wish every beer drinker in this country to do the same, until InBev buys ad time to distance themselves from Li'l Augie.

Augie didn't run the company, I think his uncle or dad was the last Busch CEO.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: dogmush on April 22, 2013, 03:27:42 PM
In Iowa cheap American beer is 5-6% and Microbrews are 5-6%.

I don't like the taste of many higher alcohol content beers, many are like licking the inside of a burned out coffee pot full of cigarette butts or directly chewing on a hop leaf covered in burnt grains.

Homebrew FTMFW.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 03:48:01 PM
Homebrew FTMFW.

I have made my share of homebrew. I like making high alcohol dunkelwiess and irish reds.

Still get a wicked hangover from over indulgence.

Cheap American beer and good scotch whiskey/scotch/bourbon makes for no or very weak hangover.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 03:49:12 PM
Yep, i acknowledged that fact in my post.  I'm sending a message.  Just like: I won't buy a GM product of any sort, even those made prior to the "Government Motors" era.  I wish every beer drinker in this country to do the same, until InBev buys ad time to distance themselves from Li'l Augie.

It was big news when the company sold in 2008. Its not InBev's fault that you didn't remember the news.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 03:50:59 PM
Yep, i acknowledged that fact in my post.  I'm sending a message.  Just like: I won't buy a GM product of any sort, even those made prior to the "Government Motors" era.  I wish every beer drinker in this country to do the same, until InBev buys ad time to distance themselves from Li'l Augie.

That would be like you boycotting the Browning brand name if you had an issue with the Mormon church.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: dogmush on April 22, 2013, 03:54:41 PM


Cheap American beer and good scotch whiskey/scotch/bourbon makes for no or very weak hangover.


Actually nothing messses with me in the morning like cheap crappy beer. 

Good beer, good scotch, good rum and good bourbon all work for me and leave me no morning after problems.  Tequila now?  That'll mess me up.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 03:56:55 PM
Also InBev sold off Busch Gardens theme parks/entertainment division a year after acquisition. So those are not part of the Busch Family fortune anymore either.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: stevelyn on April 22, 2013, 08:03:47 PM
Well............... Bye.
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: charby on April 22, 2013, 08:21:14 PM
Well............... Bye.

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And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

People are entitled to their opinions, at least he had the stones to quit over something he disagreed with.

Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: lee n. field on April 22, 2013, 09:00:26 PM
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Adolphus Busch IV, heir to the Busch family brewing fortune, resigned his lifetime membership in the National Rifle Association on Thursda

Is there any reason at all that I should be paying attention to this individual?
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Perd Hapley on April 22, 2013, 09:59:17 PM
Is there any reason at all that I should be paying attention to this individual?


Why, he has the unparalleled courage to stand up to the NRA.  :O
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Brad Johnson on April 22, 2013, 10:46:55 PM
I sent them a very diplomatic request to divest themselves of his comments. In their reply they went to great lengths to say that his statement does not reflect on the views of the company. To thank them I bought a 30 of Bud on the way home.

Brad
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: Hutch on April 23, 2013, 12:11:35 AM
It was big news when the company sold in 2008. Its not InBev's fault that you didn't remember the news.
That would be like you boycotting the Browning brand name if you had an issue with the Mormon church.
Augie didn't run the company, I think his uncle or dad was the last Busch CEO.
Okay, guys, I get it.  In fact, I already had it... AND.  I.  Don't.  Care.   I'm still gonna lower my visor, socket my lance, and spur my steed on towards that windmill.  OUTTA MY WAY!
Title: Re: Adolphus Busch IV Resigns From NRA After Gun Control Defeat In Senate
Post by: gunsmith on April 23, 2013, 01:06:54 AM
whats all this about browning being owned by Mormons!?
Even despite Harry Reid and me being raised Catholic I'm gonna have to save my pennies and buy me some brownies because Glenn Beck is awesome!
 :angel:

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