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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2018, 10:36:00 PM »
Posting this while out and about so I'm really glad that despite the shutdown, my Obama phone still has ser
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2018, 10:46:12 PM »
WE'RE DOOMED!

According to CNN, the shutdown means we won't have any warning of an impending asteroid strike on Earth.

https://news.grabien.com/story-cnn-govt-shutdown-risks-undetected-asteroid-strike

Does this mean that the United States is the only country on this planet with telescopes and astronomers? Or do the other countries all hate us so much that they'll detect an asteroid but spitefully not tell us it's coming? Personally, if I'm going to die in an asteroid strike, I think I'd rather not know it's coming ...
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2018, 02:25:16 PM »
 >:D What difference does it make whether we know one's coming or not?  ???
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2018, 02:42:00 PM »
Does this mean that the United States is the only country on this planet with telescopes and astronomers?

And, of course, even in this age of communications and relatively cheap high quality telescopes in private hands, only the Great and Holy FedGov could possibly see it or get the word out.

I do find it a bit odd that the NPS memos seem to imply that LE rangers were also considered nonessential; I would have assumed interpretive rangers would be sent home, but LE would still operate pretty much as normal.  (There also tend to be far fewer of them at the parks I'm familiar with; Carlsbad Caverns, for example, had three LE rangers total, and dozens of interpretive rangers on each shift last time I was there.)

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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2018, 07:30:09 PM »
Ladies and Gentlemen,  your Federal Government:

I just received official notice that I need to go in to work tomorrow to receive written notice of my furlough. They hope to have it ready by noon.

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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2018, 07:53:37 PM »
Enjoy,  last time they pulled this it cost me a deployment to Norway.  Still pissed about that.
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2018, 07:54:13 PM »
Ladies and Gentlemen,  your Federal Government:

I just received official notice that I need to go in to work tomorrow to receive written notice of my furlough. They hope to have it ready by noon.

The shutdown will be over at 1159.  =D
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2018, 08:36:12 PM »
And, of course, even in this age of communications and relatively cheap high quality telescopes in private hands, only the Great and Holy FedGov could possibly see it or get the word out.

I do find it a bit odd that the NPS memos seem to imply that LE rangers were also considered nonessential; I would have assumed interpretive rangers would be sent home, but LE would still operate pretty much as normal.  (There also tend to be far fewer of them at the parks I'm familiar with; Carlsbad Caverns, for example, had three LE rangers total, and dozens of interpretive rangers on each shift last time I was there.)
What is an "interpretive ranger"? 

I am picturing rangers in animal outfits doing some sort of interpretive dance, but I am sure the real meaning is more entertaining.
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #34 on: January 21, 2018, 08:41:27 PM »
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2018, 12:02:02 AM »
What is an "interpretive ranger"?

Basically, any of the uniformed public faces at an NPS facility that isn't a commissioned law enforcement officer.  They take your money, guide you on tours, explain stuff, etc.  IOW, most NPS employees doing work that isn't likely to require ticketing, arresting and/or shooting you.  Usually almost the same uniform as the LE rangers, but no sidearm, a different badge and a much less cool car. 

(Another plug for Carlsbad Caverns NP; that place has the coolest rangers I've ever met, in either designation.  I've been to a few National Parks, and that one more than any of the others really felt like everybody who worked there loved their job and wanted visitors to have the best possible experience.  Of course, combining geology, history, a particularly attractive above ground environment and whatever the study of bats is called (I should know that, but it's not coming to me - nvm - looked it up; chiropterology) probably makes it high on a lot of people's "where I'd like to be assigned" list, so I'm sure they get their pick of the best rangers.  I know they get their pick of the fittest as I've seen more than one spend their free time running along the scenic loop miles from their vehicle on an August midafternoon...including one who had to be very near mandatory retirement age.  Dude's wrinkles had muscles.  The "I am both frightened and aroused" line in Wonder Woman could have described nearly all the female rangers there, too.)

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I am picturing rangers in animal outfits doing some sort of interpretive dance, but I am sure the real meaning is more entertaining.

I suppose at some of the NPS facilities where such could be a significant part of the history of the site, this may actually be a part of the job, though that sort of thing is more often done by students, volunteers or outside contractors.

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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2018, 07:45:59 AM »
>> Govt shutdown




Seriously they are just shooting themselves in the foot. Government "shuts down" and everyone still keeps breathing as usual, drives home the point of how little Government we actually need.
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2018, 08:05:20 AM »
I'm at the office at the regular time this morning. My contract is funded through midnight on 8 February. After that, we hit the new fiscal year and a new contract funding structure, which means that if this crap happens again, I'll have to either burn leave or take time off.
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2018, 09:12:07 AM »
Isn't an "essential federal employee" an oxymoron?  :angel:

drives home the point of how little Government we actually need.

For sure. I say keep it closed for a couple months, we'll do fine. Maybe those suckling on the government teat will gain a little more appreciation for the tax dollars we've been paying them.
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #40 on: January 22, 2018, 11:28:27 AM »
Tales from the Shutdown....The HORROR....THE HORROR !!!!!

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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2018, 11:31:04 AM »
Jim Acosta's "I haz a sad" tweet is the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. 
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2018, 01:53:22 PM »
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2018, 01:54:35 PM »
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2018, 01:58:26 PM »
I like the truncated headline on my watch better than the full one:


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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2018, 07:31:13 PM »
Hey Marnoot,  are you ever going to remove that cheap adhesive protective film from the face of your really expensive Dick Tracy watch? [popcorn] :lol: =D
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Re: Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2018, 09:14:20 PM »
Hey Marnoot,  are you ever going to remove that cheap adhesive protective film from the face of your really expensive Dick Tracy watch? [popcorn] :lol: =D

That's a tempered glass screen protector that's done its job and needs replacing. I didnt realize $150 is a really expensive watch now. You could spend more on a ginuwine Rotex watch at Times Square. :P

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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2018, 09:29:36 PM »
Hey Marnoot,  are you ever going to remove that cheap adhesive protective film from the face of your really expensive Dick Tracy watch? [popcorn] :lol: =D

Ha! I'm always keeping those protective films on things for a really long time.
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Re: What if they had a gov shutdown, and no one cared?
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2018, 10:19:34 AM »
Interesting article relating to public use of federal areas during the shutdown.

I think Yosemite is like $30 for entry nowadays. People saved dough and got to do most of the things they might have done anyway.

As far as the negatives in the article: Seems like a lot of it involved personal responsibility. You go into the backcountry, you should be prepared to fend for yourself vs counting on ranger rescue. Certainly being able to call for help is a justified concern, but even in Yosemite, as busy as it is, there are plenty of place where you can go and not see a ranger all day.

Also I have to wonder about the concerns of the "conservation organization". Could there have been some vandalism during the shutdown? Sure. That also happens when the parks are fully staffed. I also note that the problems at Golden Gate were due to the gov shutting down the parking area. Had it been left open, there likely would have been no problems.

I'm not saying parks shouldn't be staffed at all, but I think this illustrates you don't need one ranger for every two people everywhere. Certainly this turned out a good deal differently than "make it hurt".

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/amp/Yosemite-s-3-days-under-shutdown-free-12516434.php
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