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>>I CAME ACROSS THIS PHRASE IN A BOOK YESTERDAY "FENDER SKIRTS." A TERM I HAVEN'T HEARD IN A LONG TIME AND THINKING ABOUT "FENDER
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>>LIKE " CURB FEELERS" AND "STEERING KNOBS." SINCE I'D BEEN THINKING OF CARS, MY MIND NATURALLY WENT THAT DIRECTION FIRST. ANY KIDS WILL PROBABLY HAVE TO FIND SOME ELDERLY PERSON OVER 50 TO EXPLAIN SOME OF THESE TERMS TO YOU.
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>>REMEMBER " CONTINENTAL KITS?" THEY WERE REAR BUMPER EXTENDERS AND SPARE TIRE COVERS THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO MAKE ANY CAR AS COOL AS A LINCOLN CONTINENTAL.
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>>WHEN DID WE QUIT CALLING THEM "EMERGENCY BRAKES?" AT SOME POINT "PARKING BRAKE" BECAME THE PROPER TERM. BUT I MISS THE HINT OF DRAMA THAT WENT WITH "EMERGENCY BRAKE".
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>>I'M SAD TOO, THAT ALMOST ALL THE OLD FOLKS ARE GONE WHO WOULD CALL THE ACCELERATOR THE "FOOT FEED".
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>>DIDN'T YOU EVER WAIT AT THE STREET FOR YOUR DADDY TO COME HOME, SO YOU COULD RIDE THE "RUNNING BOARD"UP TO THE HOUSE?
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>>HERE'S A PHRASE I HEARD ALL THE TIME IN MY YOUTH BUT NEVER HEAR ANYMORE- "STORE-BOUGHT." OF COURSE, JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING IS STORE-BOUGHT THESE DAYS. BUT ONCE IT WAS BRAGGING MATERIAL TO HAVE A STORE-BOUGHT DRESS OR A STORE-BOUGHT BAG OF CANDY.
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>>"COAST TO COAST" IS A PHRASE THAT ONCE HELD ALL SORTS OF EXCITEMENT AND NOW MEANS ALMOST NOTHING. NOW WE TAKE THE TERM "WORLD WIDE" FOR GRANTED. THIS FLOORS ME.
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>>ON A SMALLER SCALE, WALL-TO-WALL WAS ONCE A MAGICAL TERM IN OUR HOMES. IN THE '50s, EVERYONE COVERED HIS OR HER HARDWOOD FLOORS WITH, WOW, WALL-TO-WALL CARPETING! TODAY, EVERYONE REPLACES THEIR WALL-TO-WALL CARPETING WITH HARDWOOD FLOORS. GO FIGURE!
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>>WHEN'S THE LAST TIME YOU HEARD THE QUAINT PHRASE "IN A FAMILY WAY?"
>>IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE THAT THE WORD "PREGNANT" WAS ONCE CONSIDERED A LITTLE TOO GRAPHIC, A LITTLE TOO CLINICAL FOR USE IN POLITE COMPANY. SO WE HAD ALL THAT TALK ABOUT STORK VISITS AND "BEING IN THE FAMILY WAY" OR SIMPLY "EXPECTING"
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>>APPARENTLY "BRASSIERE" IS A WORD NO LONGER IN USAGE. I SAID IT THE OTHER DAY AND MY DAUGHTER CRACKED UP, I GUESS IT'S JUST "BRA" NOW "UNMENTIONALS" PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE UNDERSTOOD AT ALL.
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>>I ALWAYS LOVED GOING TO THE "PICTURE SHOW", BUT I CONSIDERED
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>>MOST OF THESE WORDS GO BACK TO THE '50s, BUT HERE'S A PURE- '60's WORD I CAME ACROSS THE OTHER DAY- "RAT FINK". OOH, WHAT A NASTY PUT-DOWN!
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>>HERE'S A WORD I MISS -"PERCOLATOR". THAT WAS JUST A FUN WORD TO SAY. AND WHAT WAS IT REPLACED WITH? "COFFEE MAKER". HOW
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>>I MISS THOSE MADE-UP MARKETING WORDS T! HAT WERE MEANT TO SOUND SO MODERN AND NOW SOUND SO RETRO. WORDS LIKE "DYNAFLOW" AND "ELECTROLUX." INTRODUCING THE 1963 ADMIRAL TV, NOW WITH "SPECTRAVISION!"
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>>FOOD FOR THOUGHT- WAS THERE A TELETHON THAT WIPED OUT LUMBAGO? NOBODY COMPLAINS OF THAT ANYMORE. MAYBE THAT'S WHAT CASTOR OIL CURED, BECAUSE I NEVER HEAR MOTHERS THREATENING KIDS WITH CASTOR OIL ANYMORE.
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>>SOME WORDS AREN'T GONE, BUT ARE DEFINITELY ON THE ENDANGERED LIST.
>>THE ONE THAT GRIEVES ME MOST IS "SUPPER". NOW EVERYBODY SAYS "DINNER."
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>>SAVE A GREAT WORD. INVITE SOMEONE TO SUPPER. DISCUSS FENDER SKIRTS.
Post by: Guest on November 09, 2005, 04:09:42 AM
Damn! Art? Let me bum a "hard-roll" - left mine in the truck.
So with the change of seasons, you like the "palette" of color Mother Nature does with "hardwoods" or "softwoods" better?
Gotta remember to pick up some "saltines" and "cocoa" when I make a "market run".
Post by: garrettwc on November 09, 2005, 04:20:39 AM
Youngsters.
In the picture you'll notice that the rear wheels are partially covered by a body panel. That panel is removeable and is commonly known as a fender skirt. Oh, and by the way, the extended bumper and spare tire carrier are the 'Continental Kit' referred to in the original post.
And yes, I can remember each one of these, although running boards were mostly gone by the time I was old enough
Post by: mtnbkr on November 09, 2005, 04:38:22 AM
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ON A SMALLER SCALE, WALL-TO-WALL WAS ONCE A MAGICAL TERM IN OUR HOMES. IN THE '50s, EVERYONE COVERED HIS OR HER HARDWOOD FLOORS WITH, WOW, WALL-TO-WALL CARPETING! TODAY, EVERYONE REPLACES THEIR WALL-TO-WALL CARPETING WITH HARDWOOD FLOORS. GO FIGURE!
My grandmother's house started out with hardwood floors, which she covered with carpet before I was born. A few years ago, she removed the carpet and had someone refinish the original wood flooring. It looks great. I had no idea it was there.Chris
Post by: Brian Williams on November 09, 2005, 05:17:11 AM
I still call it Supper..
I still think the Continental kit and fender skirts were for Sissies and Grandma's.
Steering knobs are great, better known as "necker" knobs.
Post by: mtnbkr on November 09, 2005, 05:36:30 AM
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I worked on a house that we installed $45,000 of T&G Mahagony flooring and it required about $50,000 to sand it and finish it. Then the lady had it covered with pissyellow shag wall2wall that cost $4000
Was this a back to back operation or were there some years between the wood floor install and the carpet install? I'm just trying to figure out how she'd justify the wood floor only to cover it with carpet. Chris
Post by: Art Eatman on November 09, 2005, 05:36:55 AM
My first-ever car was a 1933 Chevy roadster, with rumble seat. Anybody remember rumble seats? Great for dates. Just slide on down until you had complete privacy. 
Actually, 1/3 of a car. Three of us went together to scrounge up the $35 to buy it.(Bleep) hardwood floors. My folks built a house in 1946 with 1x3 oak flooring. First, the 1x6 underlayment at 45 degrees. Then, 50-gazillion pounds of 6d finishing nails. You know, the kind whose philosophy is, "I'll bend before I break." My own house is 1" plywood under the wall-to-wall dirt-colored carpet.
Heck, before A/C in cars, you could buy a gizmo that fit into the almost-rolled-up window. You put ice in it, and the wind blowing through the device and into the car was chilled. Trouble was, the ice didn't last all that long in Texas summers.
Ah, the early auto-trannies: "Slip and slide with Powerglide!"
Folks today sneer at a rotary dial phone. Huh. I remember the old hand-crank jobberdo, with a 12-party line. You cranked and got the operator and gave her the number you wanted. And when you received a call, everybody listened in. Dunno why folks worry about Echelon.
Little old ladies knew more about what was going on than the NSA ever has. (Still do, for that matter.)Ah, the Necker's Knob. She said to me, "Use both hands!" I sez, "Darlin', I need one for driving."
, Art
Post by: Gewehr98 on November 09, 2005, 05:40:04 AM
Post by: Art Eatman on November 09, 2005, 05:50:25 AM
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Post by: 280plus on November 09, 2005, 06:36:21 AM
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Post by: Guest on November 09, 2005, 07:23:30 AM
I had them growing up. Nothing wrong with Murphy's Oil Soap - but that Johnson's Paste Wax was so much better for sliding on after applied with wool socks. Then that new-fangled spray stuff for furntiure - Pledge - sure made "getting the floor slicker" a lot easier. Explains why there was a patch in the far wall, and a dent in upright furnance...
Not as old as Art. I do recall learning on a '53 Chevy with "three on the tree". Sucker had grounbd clearance - and yeah for 'night sporting" that front bumper was handy.
We then got us a two tone green Dodge with the 'fins" - had 'push button" auto trannie and the rear view mirror on the metal dash. Always hated that car.
I liked the PowerGlide, on the floor of the '63 Super Sport with a 4bbl 327 and 300 horses...ah...memories. No necker's knobs on the steering wheel, now that gear shift between the buckets could be interesting...
Don't have to go back too many years it seems. I mentioned Delco and Philco 'radios' in cars, and the mention of under the dash 8 track tape players to classmates...I get the deer in the headlight look same as 'record players' and 'records'.
"Yeah my child listened to "Henry the Chickenhawk" - I have it on CD - so says a classmate...
Sigh...I played it on a Philco , green vinyl 45 RPM record...
Same color as Chet Atkins record...
Jimmy Dean was red, Tennesse Ernie Ford was black, Hank Williams Sr. was black, red, green, or why did they do one in yellow?
"Dragging Main Street" - remember that?
Back when married and had a teenage stepson - we went to the big city to show the kid what "Dragging Main Street" was all about. About 9pm one night. I'm driving and get pulled over. Young Officer asks why I was driving slow ( I was doing the 25mph limit mind you) and I had to explain 'dragging Main street".
He replied it sounded like "racing cars" - I informed him that was what the Airport Road and River Road was for ( wife just turned and cringed...lol).
Then we headed back to our small town...decided instead to visit the adjacent town. Had to show the boy what " Walking the Square" meant. This time the older Sheriff officer comes up and complimented me on knowing how to parallel park ( that blew the kid's mind btw) said we were gonna walk the square - he just grinned, and make us aware of some stuff we might want to take in. All the statues, memorials, historical markers with lights shining on them...
....head to the Mom & Pop Stores in the square around the Courthouse ....
Wife and I "Window Shopped" kid was tripping over cracks in the sidewalk, got him home and told him he too had "Window Shopped" once he figured how to walk on a sidewalk and manipulate curbs -...and if he didnt' behave we would tell his best buds at school. lol
Post by: 280plus on November 09, 2005, 08:03:24 AM
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but that Johnson's Paste Wax was so much better for sliding on after applied with wool socks.
There's nothing more better than taking steel wool and Johnson's wax to an old hardwood floor and watch it come alive again! I remember my Dad's 1953 Merc with the push button start. I actually owned a 1963 Belvedere with a push button tranny, it was definitely on it's last legs though. The old man's '63 Ford Fairlane had some mighty nice tail wings. It had a "three on the tree" too. Talk about "Continental kits", anyone remember the kits to make you VW bug look like a pig? Or a Rolls Royce? There is still a pink VW pig in existence right down the road from me.
Oh, and then I recall that the parents told me they used to park down by the shore for a little "necking" and called it "watching the submarine races". This was a locality thing as they were pretty close to Groton.
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Post by: grampster on November 09, 2005, 12:36:29 PM
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on November 09, 2005, 12:58:36 PM
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Guy pulled up the the restaurant on Saturday in one of those Dodge pickups that had a front end on it like the VW bus above and a truck bed. I remember that jesse and always wanted one. Haven't seen one in years. This one is candy apple red and perfect conditioin. *drool* Imagine that VW bus with the white top off'n it behind the cab. That's what that Dodge looks like.
Anybody remember the "Little Red Wagon"? It was a COE Dodge pickup like Grampster describes, but with a monster Hemi in the bed. It would stand on its back wheels all the way down the dragstrip. It spurned a whole new class of exhibition dragsters "Wheelstanders" including the Hemi Under Glass and the Backup Pickup (Ford COE going backwards).BTW, I grew up in the era but I always hated the fender skirts, lakes pipes, spinners, spot lights, lowered crowd.
Real hot rods were so much cooler...
Post by: JAlexander on November 09, 2005, 01:11:38 PM
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Talk about "Continental kits", anyone remember the kits to make you VW bug look like a pig? Or a Rolls Royce? There is still a pink VW pig in existence right down the road from me.
The guy who runs the lights for the show that my darling bride is doing right now has one of those, and drives it to the the opera house every night. It's actually the first one I'd ever seen, since tricked-out Bugs weren't too popular in rural central Texas when I was a kid. I can tell y'all all about beat up old Ford and Chevy pickups, though.I used to hear steering wheel knobs called 'suicide knobs' and 'spinners' when I was a kid, although now spinners are something entirely different. When I was a little kid, I used to see this one old black man driving around Bastrop, and thinking he was the coolest person ever. He had a black Lincoln Continental, one of the early seventies models, and he used to cruise around smoking a cigar, steering with one hand on the suicide knob. He always had his windows rolled down, and he always waved.
I wish you could still use those things.
James
Post by: Brad Johnson on November 09, 2005, 01:48:16 PM
You would coal-up the furnace, not just press the button on the digital thermostat.
They were called iceboxes, not just "the fridge".
"Playing football" on the playground meant you would come in with at least one knee skinned, a bloody nose, and the wind knocked out of you from a hard block. Touch football was for when you played in the church league and their were girls on the field.
You pressed a button to start your car. Only you did it with your foot. And you prayed that the 6-volt positive-ground electical system would get the job done so you didn't have to get out and use the hand crank.
Those new-fangled tubeless tires? They were just a fad. Split-rims were so much easier and safer to work on...
The whole family got dressed up and went to the pizza parlor instead of just picking up the phone and ordering the latest coupon special.
Of course, I had a lot less grey then. And I went to the barber and not a "male hairstyle specialist".
Brad
Post by: 280plus on November 09, 2005, 02:31:18 PM
My grandfather had this old Rambler wagon that when he moved to Miami he installed an aftermarket air conditioner in. It would make the coldest air I've ever seen for a car a/c. I still remember that great big fan assembly hanging off the bottom of the dash with it's great big round rocket ship looking air outlets. I wonder what ever became of that car.
I have seen a few of those 1/2 VW x 1/2 pickup jobs. But it's been a while...
How about when a "rail" had the driver behind the motor and not in front?
I remember watching the Winter Nationals in Orange county Kalifornia and we were amazed by Shirley Muldowney's first ever all aluminum motor. (It blew) And how they were making 2500 HP which shook the ground when they took off. Now they produce 5000!
We had an old guy around here, I haven't seen him in a while, but he had a red 1924 Model A Pick up that he still drove. He was it's original owner! It wasn't in bad shape at all either.
Post by: grampster on November 09, 2005, 03:30:28 PM
Post by: K Frame on November 09, 2005, 03:36:13 PM
It was FRIGGING ENORMOUS, and no longer worked.
My Dad said that the window unit that replaced it had nearly twice the cooling power.
Anyone ever grow up in a house with a Butler's Window? Or a Butler's Pantry?
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on November 09, 2005, 03:49:45 PM
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How about when a "rail" had the driver behind the motor and not in front?
I believe it was Don Prudhomme who lost part of his foot in a flywheel explosion that built a rear engined dragster (one of the 13 or so Swamp Rats). I don't remember if he was the one or not, but since then, all Top Fuel dragsters have been rear-engined.Anybody remember the old FX class (factory experimental)? It evolved into the Funny Cars. Some of those early FXs were pretty funny looking, hence the name.
Post by: jefnvk on November 09, 2005, 04:10:33 PM
Most (now) out of place thing I had on a car was the bright lights dimmer on the floor.
Post by: Guest on November 09, 2005, 04:11:10 PM
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Anyone ever grow up in a house with a Butler's Window? Or a Butler's Pantry?
I am familar with these . Dumwaiters as well.
One of the places I worked as a kid of 12, Downtown had three Dumbwaiters. These were used a LOT. One went to the Bookeepers upstairs, one to a general area upstairs to the shop, the other one to the Boss's upstairs Private office.
The Butler's Pantry , we had is where one K frame Revolver was kept.
We had some BGs come in and case us one day. Boss is looking out over the store ( office overlooked with one way glass) with a Lever Gun in 30-30, in hand, and the back-up shotguns were sent downstairs via the dumwaiters. We had already sent some valuables "up" and had "locked down" the upstairs.
I have some friends that did new construction - Butler Pantry and Dumbwaiters were installed .
Post by: garrettwc on November 09, 2005, 05:43:15 PM
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I believe it was Don Prudhomme who lost part of his foot in a flywheel explosion that built a rear engined dragster (one of the 13 or so Swamp Rats).
You got the first name right. That was "Big Daddy" Don Garlits. The father of drag racing.
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on November 09, 2005, 05:54:17 PM
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You got the first name right. That was "Big Daddy" Don Garlits. The father of drag racing.
I was afraid of that. They say the mind is the second thing that goes.OK, here is one that has been bothering me all evening. Who was the guy who put the blown 427 into the 1964 Comet Caliente and pretty much started the whole FX class?
Edit: "Dandy Don" Nicholson.
OK, so the mind isn't completly gone yet.
Post by: 280plus on November 10, 2005, 01:30:48 AM
Probaly the most memorable part of the Winternationals was there was a mud bog off to the side of the track behind the bleacher and a bunch of guys had started running their 4 wheelers through it. Finally 2 of them managed to run head on into each other (at low speed) noone was hurt by the crash but this ended up in a MAJOR donnybrook right in the middle of the mud. Talk about entertainment! I think there were more spectators watching this than what was going on at the track. At another point some guy was taking his VW BUG through it and broke the front suspension. Yours truly dove into the mud and helped pull him out. It was FUN!!!
Speaking of dumbwaiters, I recently did a job in an old hotel they were renovating and it had a 100 YO dumbwaiter that they were ripping out. It didn't really look all that "dumb" to me, it WAS pretty quiet though...
Post by: Brian Williams on November 10, 2005, 04:21:09 AM
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Was this a back to back operation or were there some years between the wood floor install and the carpet install?
it was the same job, finished the floors, finished the painting and trim stain, she wanted the carpet, within a week it was there.I just stoked my stove this morning, it was wood pellets and it runs off a thremostat, but I stoked it.
Post by: garrettwc on November 10, 2005, 05:30:39 AM
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on November 10, 2005, 07:07:38 AM
Post by: garrettwc on November 10, 2005, 07:43:05 AM
The 64 Plymouth Fury with a Hemi was so dominant that Ford threw a hissy fit and threatened a boycott. So the cars were banned in Nascar for the 65 season. Chrysler responded by mandating that none of the factory teams, which included Petty would race in a Nascar event. Instead Chrysler went to NHRA with the Barracuda.
Post by: Larry Ashcraft on November 10, 2005, 08:06:35 AM
Didn't Chrysler throw a similar hissy fit when Ford tried the same thing with the SOHC a couple years later?
Remember Connie Kalitta's Ford 427 SOHC powered rail?
Post by: garrettwc on November 10, 2005, 10:20:59 AM
Post by: Art Eatman on November 10, 2005, 07:28:31 PM
The GM folks, knowing that winning races sells cars, quit racing. We pulled engines off dynos and sent them to the hammer. Same at Pontiac. A lot of our race stuff went out the back door, to folks like Mickey Thompson and a few others. (titanium blocks; tube frames for the Superlight Corvette, etc.
We sent four Chevys to Daytona, with only one spare engine each. FoMoCo had something like 25 Fords and Mrcurys there, with unlimited spares. We had Johnny Rutherford, Rex White, Junior Johnson and one other driver. The new "Mystery V8", the 427, blew the doors off everything else for the early sprint races. In the 500, I gotta blame Nascar mechanics for screwing things up in the race. JR spun and lost a lap, but ran with the leaders all day.
Y'know, that rat motor is still a helluva performer...
, Art
Post by: 280plus on November 11, 2005, 01:09:24 AM
Remember THAT phrase?
Post by: Art Eatman on November 11, 2005, 04:31:11 AM
Art
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Stuck it into an Austin-Healey.
I'm imagining we filled up at the airport?
I do remember a guy who dropped a 283 into his Toyota pick up. Fit rather nicely I must admit...
Post by: garrettwc on November 11, 2005, 07:06:55 AM
Horsepower argh, argh, argh!How much welding did you have to do on the frame to keep from twisting it?
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The GM folks, knowing that winning races sells cars, quit racing. We pulled engines off dynos and sent them to the hammer. Same at Pontiac. A lot of our race stuff went out the back door, to folks like Mickey Thompson and a few others.
IIRC mechanic Smokey Yunick figured into that Chevy mix somehow but I don't remember all the details.
Post by: Brian Williams on November 11, 2005, 07:38:15 AM
Post by: Dave Markowitz on November 11, 2005, 10:00:35 AM
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ON A SMALLER SCALE, WALL-TO-WALL WAS ONCE A MAGICAL TERM IN OUR HOMES. IN THE '50s, EVERYONE COVERED HIS OR HER HARDWOOD FLOORS WITH, WOW, WALL-TO-WALL CARPETING! TODAY, EVERYONE REPLACES THEIR WALL-TO-WALL CARPETING WITH HARDWOOD FLOORS. GO FIGURE!
When I bought my 1958-vintage house in 2001, the hardwood floor in my living and dining rooms was completely covered in FOUR COATS of white enamel paint, plus a couple of the ugliest area rugs ever made. I threw out the rugs the night we took title to the house. It took me three weekends to strip the paint off the floor with chemicals and a sander, before polyurethaning it.Gawd, the taste some people have.
Post by: mfree on November 11, 2005, 11:41:41 AM
>>DULL. MR.COFFEE, I BLAME YOU FOR THIS."
The word wasn't replaced, the machine was. You can still get percolators if you look hard enough
And whoever made the NHRA comment.... 5000hp, you're still behin dthe times, they're theorizing that the fuelers are getting somewhere beterrn 6500 and 8000 now. 300+mph is an everyday thing
Post by: Art Eatman on November 11, 2005, 03:07:54 PM
Johnny Rutherford was driving as a rookie in the 1963 Daytona; car "owner" was Smokey Yunick.
The crankshafts on top Fuel dragsters (and I guess Force's funny car) have the crankshafts built with several degrees of twist. They straighten out under the load.
The engine installation in the Healey was fairly simple, really. I used Jaguar "doughnuts" on top of the Healey towers. A slight modification to the standard Chevy side mounts let it sit right down. I cut a Chevy rear tranny mount to fit the "X" in the Healey frame and welded it in. No biggie.
I put a much stiffer sway bar in the front, and added one leaf to each rear spring. I built a simple set of traction masters for the rear. I welded up the spiders in the differential to get rid of wheelspin. I took off the knock-off hubs and used Pontiac rims.
Without the swaybar, and on good-traction pavement, I could nail first gear and lift the left front wheel about six inches off the pavement.
Ran the 1/3 in the middle to high twelves; around 115 to 118 mph.Great commuter car.
After I rolled it at our local hill climb, I got a '67 plain vanilla Camaro and put a 427 in it. Made a great tow car for my Formula Vee.
The big chuckle in the pits a few years later was when I showed up with a Forumla A car, towed behind a VW Bus.
Always keep'em guessing.
Art
Post by: 280plus on November 13, 2005, 11:32:37 AM
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And whoever made the NHRA comment.... 5000hp, you're still behin dthe times, they're theorizing that the fuelers are getting somewhere beterrn 6500 and 8000 now. 300+mph is an everyday thing
That was me. You caused another recall too. At the '76 Winternationals there were a couple of jet engine powered dragsters for exhibition. Those were the only things that could exceed 300 MPH in those days. Now they're doing it with 8000 hp piston engines? WOW!I AM behind the times
Post by: Art Eatman on November 13, 2005, 12:17:35 PM
They took the Green Monster to Daytona in 1962, trying for the $10,000 prize to the frist car to lap at (IIRC) 180. Something like that. Some English guy as driver. Again, IIRC, he lacked some 30 mph of doing it; "That hog won't handle." Duntov had Chevy's CERV I there; he didn't get over 150, either.
Art
Post by: 280plus on November 13, 2005, 04:25:33 PM
Correction, it was the 1977 Winternationals. Don Garlits got beat by Jerry "The King" Ruth. I believe Ruth was a rookie that year. Not sure. No mention of the jet car though
Post by: Art Eatman on November 14, 2005, 04:28:50 AM
Anyhow, most American designed cars are nose-heavy lead sleds, the very definition of Understeer.
Art