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Title: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: makattak on April 18, 2011, 11:09:31 AM
Which is well and truly falsified:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/16/the-un-disappears-50-million-climate-refugees-then-botches-the-cover-up/

UN Environment Program, in 2005 claimed there would be 50 million "climate refugees" as a result of ocean rise in 2010.

Of course, that claim is no longer to be found on their website. Instead, they claim that there will be 50 million climate refugees by 2020.

Transparency!
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: TommyGunn on April 18, 2011, 11:33:29 AM
Tough to have an honest football game when the goalposts are mobile. ;) [popcorn]
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: MechAg94 on April 18, 2011, 04:15:30 PM
The article mentions unsustainable natural resource use.  I was talking to a guy today about farming down here.  Around the small town I grew near, there is tons and tons of potential farm land and land that used to be farm land that is unused except maybe to run the minimum number of cows to get the Ag exemption on taxes.  We as a nation don't come anywhere near 100% utilization of food production.  We are still paying farmers not to grow crops in a lot of cases. 
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: AZRedhawk44 on April 18, 2011, 04:30:07 PM
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We are still paying farmers not to grow crops in a lot of cases. 

Someone please 'splayn to me why we do this, and we go out and send foreign aid to armpitistans around the world?

If we're going to pay our farmers to NOT put product on the market, AND we're going to piss money around the world for "humanitarian" relief, then let's have those farmers actually grow something and take the product and use it for foreign aid.

Kind of like "I won't give a homeless guy $10, but I might take him to Denny's and tell the waitress I'll pay his check."
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: charby on April 18, 2011, 04:41:12 PM
Someone please 'splayn to me why we do this, and we go out and send foreign aid to armpitistans around the world?

If we're going to pay our farmers to NOT put product on the market, AND we're going to piss money around the world for "humanitarian" relief, then let's have those farmers actually grow something and take the product and use it for foreign aid.

Kind of like "I won't give a homeless guy $10, but I might take him to Denny's and tell the waitress I'll pay his check."

I take it you are not familiar with the current CRP program. In a nutshell the Fed's pay landowners to set aside highly erodible farm ground. With the high commodity prices there would be a lot of ground plowed up and corn planted. I live in Iowa and Iowa is not as flat as everyone thinks it is. With road ditch to road ditch farming you have a lot of exposed soil except maybe for 5 months out of the year. Every time it rains soil is washed away, every time the wind blows soil is blown away. If you would take some time and read about great ancient civilizations that fell, much of it was from losing all the soil due to farming. i.e. Mesopotamia

You could also read about the Dust Bowl days here in the US, that was the reason behind much of the set aside programs they have now. Conserving resources is a smart thing, it plans for the future. I would hope we could still produce as much food as we do now a 100 years from now.
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: French G. on April 18, 2011, 06:01:05 PM
CRP very smart. Biggest mover against CRP of late? Skyrocketing commodity prices from ethanol encouraging farmers to tale land out of CRP and plant corn. So, gov't subsidy for CRP promoting soil protection and wildlife/agritourism or gov't ethanol subsidy encouraging erosion, fertilizer runoff, soil depletion, etc....
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: Scout26 on April 18, 2011, 06:04:33 PM
I will simply point to my sig line. -V
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: j3rd on April 19, 2011, 08:26:47 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and according to the global cooling proponents of the '70s, North America is going to be covered by a glacier...10 years ago...
Title: Re: Global Warming... errr... Climate Change Propagandists make falsifiable claim
Post by: roo_ster on April 19, 2011, 11:05:56 AM
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and according to the global cooling proponents of the '70s, North America is going to be covered by a glacier...10 years ago...

Help! Help! I can't get up as I am being crushed by the Great Glacier of Texas!