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Title: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: gunsmith on March 14, 2009, 05:58:57 AM
http://www.laweekly.com/2009-03-12/la-vida/the-fuzzy-underground-a-clandestine-meeting-with-ferrets-anonymous/2

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The Fuzzy Underground: A Clandestine Meeting With Ferrets Anonymous
Continued from page 1
Published on March 11, 2009 at 7:16pm

Still, the California ferret’s most menacing natural predator is the Department of Fish and Game officer. When Ferrets Anonymous members are in a grim mood, they talk, in hushed tones, about the officers at agricultural-inspection stations along state borders who used to strangle ferrets on the spot while horrified owners looked on.

    
 I don't mind people having one cute Ferret
but why do people need 2 or three?
& why do people need those evil black footed Ferrets?

Once when I was a pizza delivery guy in Reno, a lady had 3 Ferrets
just hanging out with her IN THE OPEN!!
(gasp! shock! horror!)
they did some kind of happy dance and were super cute, it was horrible!
I knew it was legal, but how can we expect to turn America into a socialist worker paradise if people are allowed Ferrets?
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Rudy Kohn on March 14, 2009, 07:03:56 AM
When ferrets are outlawed, only outlaws will have ferrets.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: seeker_two on March 14, 2009, 08:47:18 AM
The government's only going after those evil, black, high-capacity assault ferrets....they'll leave our single, brown, sport-hunting ferrets alone....


 =|
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: MechAg94 on March 14, 2009, 12:10:49 PM
I guess none of them want to move out of California? 
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: MicroBalrog on March 14, 2009, 12:39:24 PM
I guess none of them want to move out of California? 

Well, they clearly deserve it, then.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Doggy Daddy on March 14, 2009, 01:11:25 PM
I was in Walmart's pet department yesterday, there was no ferret food on the shelves!  Saw just a few accessories:  a ball, a little collar... but no food!

Clerk said they got a pallet in 2 days ago, and one guy bought it all up.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Nightfall on March 14, 2009, 01:16:22 PM
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...officers at agricultural-inspection stations along state borders who used to strangle ferrets on the spot while horrified owners looked on.
Seriously?  Wait, what... seriously? ?
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Phyphor on March 14, 2009, 01:19:09 PM
No *expletive deleted*it.  That would be the fastest way to get introduced to my tire iron.  They could order me to turn back, but strangling my ferret?  Yea, I'd be going to jail.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Viking on March 14, 2009, 01:41:53 PM
What's up with these "inspection stations" anyway? Is California the only state that have those? Any WHY are they there in the first place? ???
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Zardozimo Oprah Bannedalas on March 14, 2009, 02:31:24 PM
What's up with these "inspection stations" anyway? Is California the only state that have those? Any WHY are they there in the first place? ???
I guess they're aiming for the banana republic/Soviet Bloc look. Don't know of any other states that do it... and this was before 9/11. The excuse that I recall was something about fruit parasites... I think. Didn't allow any out-of-state produce.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: MicroBalrog on March 14, 2009, 02:49:14 PM
This is why the modern state is not merely inefficient.

It is immoral and evil. Contemplate the cruelty of strangling someone's beloved pet before their very eyes. Imagine someone strangled your dog or cat before you and you couldn't do anything to stop them. Now, nobody is going to start a civil war over ferrets. Almost nobody even feels any compassion for ferret owners - after all 'they knew the law' and 'they could move away'.

But the modern state is comprised of dozens of little abuses like this, against people who cut their shotguns too short, or carry guns without a special piece of paper, or God knows what else. And the people who do not engage in a given activity don't really care about the guys who get abused for it.

But add up the ferrets and the guns and the dozens of other little things together, and eventually you're at the point of genuine evil. I posit that we in the West have long passed this point.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: gunsmith on March 14, 2009, 05:33:55 PM
What's up with these "inspection stations" anyway? Is California the only state that have those? Any WHY are they there in the first place? ???

They are agricultural inspection stations, they ask you if you're bringing in fruit, vegetables - in order to protect against
fruit fly and other epidemics. They also fear Ferrets for some reason,I can't understand why, they're the cutest little things you ever wanna see.
They really do jump around and dance for joy.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: grislyatoms on March 14, 2009, 05:50:14 PM
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Yea, I'd be going to jail.

Me, too.

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The reasons why they are illegal in California include the fear that they will form feral packs bent on ravaging crops and livestock.

Nonsense. In the U.S., ferrets are descented and neutered/spayed before they are sold. Intact males stink to high heaven and females would die of anemia if they weren't altered. Domestic ferrets can't hunt. They retain the instinct, but can't apply it. I have read from a couple of sources that a domestic ferret would last three days on their own. 
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: grislyatoms on March 14, 2009, 06:17:57 PM
They are agricultural inspection stations, they ask you if you're bringing in fruit, vegetables - in order to protect against
fruit fly and other epidemics. They also fear Ferrets for some reason,I can't understand why, they're the cutest little things you ever wanna see.
They really do jump around and dance for joy.

The latest thing for mine are plastic grocery bags. I make a pile of bags in the floor and put them in the middle of the pile.

Chaos ensues.  :laugh:

I have never had more entertaining pets.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 14, 2009, 08:59:02 PM
Nothing new.

Kalifornia has had issues with pet ferrets for many years.

I knew about the ferret ban when I lived there from 1989 to 1999.

It's all in black and white, a law unique to Kalifornia, (as are many) but it's there for the reading.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1568/is_n4_v28/ai_18684657

The folks I knew who owned ferrets out there were smart enough not to talk about them, and bought cat food, or drove to Nevada to buy ferret chow.

(Not unlike all the EBR owners out there who simply went underground vs. registering them with the Kalifornia DOJ...)

Things may be looking up for Kalifornicators, though.  The Department of Fish & Game is due to release an Environmental Impact study, after being pressured to legalize ferret ownership out there by the Kalifornia Assembly. 

I'd be more worried about feral cats, packs of wild dogs, and hordes of unsterilized San Franciscans than I ever would a population of wild ferrets, honestly.

The Ag stations?

There were big problems with produce being transported into the state with all sorts of potentially damaging vectors/blights/etc.  Kalifornia crops were at serious risk, and we all know which state is a leader in agricultural products. Hence the Ag inspections stations. 

Hawaii does something very similar.

Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Azrael256 on March 15, 2009, 12:58:43 AM
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I guess they're aiming for the banana republic/Soviet Bloc look. Don't know of any other states that do it... and this was before 9/11.

Other way 'round.  Banana commies got the idea from California.  It pre-dates 9/11 by at least seven decades.  California inspection stations appear in The Grapes Of Wrath.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: RocketMan on March 15, 2009, 01:02:27 AM
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...hordes of unsterilized San Franciscans.

Easy there, you'll scare the children.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Antibubba on March 15, 2009, 02:53:08 AM
Technically, with a weasel ban we should be able to disband the Assembly.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: RevDisk on March 15, 2009, 10:03:41 PM
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about the officers at agricultural-inspection stations along state borders who used to strangle ferrets on the spot while horrified owners looked on.

Wait...   WHAT?   Who the hell strangles citizen's gorram pets on the side of the road?   Where are the lawsuits or dead bodies?   

I mean, I joke about the People's Republic of California, but that's seriously so messed up it's not even funny.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 15, 2009, 10:12:29 PM
You should live there sometime, RevDisk. 

You ain't seen nothin', yet.   =|
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: RevDisk on March 15, 2009, 10:34:51 PM
You should live there sometime, RevDisk. 

You ain't seen nothin', yet.   =|

Do you honestly think I'm mentally retarded enough to visit PRC voluntarily?  Army didn't have many bases there, thankfully.

Working with folks from former Communist occupied countries (Poland, Ukraine, etc) cured me of any illusions of life on the other side of a checkpoint.  Hell, even the moderate communists in the Balkans had the sense to aim their friggin tanks at the USSR.


I'm sure it's beautiful country, and has tons of wonderful... whatever.  But no thank you.  I like walking into a store, buying whatever armament I can afford, and walking back out again with it in my hot little hands.  I like knowing I can have virtually any pet I damn well please, without forming an Underground, without feeding grub to my pet that I know isn't good for him because the real food is apparently forbidden (cat food isn't good for ferrets), without praying the police don't kick in my door to strangle my pet. 

I've been mugged by ferrets and I still honestly don't understand a government that would employ people to strangle them.  That's beyond mental.  That's evil.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: BridgeRunner on March 15, 2009, 11:14:00 PM
I don't mind people having one cute Ferret
but why do people need 2 or three?

Probably for the same reason I need two or three rifles.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Balog on March 15, 2009, 11:48:21 PM
I think that was his point Bridgy. :P
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: gunsmith on March 16, 2009, 03:58:55 AM
I don't mind people having one cute Ferret
but why do people need 2 or three?

Probably for the same reason I need two or three rifles.

NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooOOoooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I am totally pro Ferret! any amount of ferrets! I only meant that tongue in cheek!

when Ferrets are outlawed, only outlaws will own ferrets!!!
( we all know only the fiercest of outlaws have ferrets! )
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: just Warren on March 16, 2009, 04:06:03 AM
The local pet shops all have ferret supplies and books and magazines devoted to the care of, so it is obvious that there is a bunch of ferret owners here.

It's a nudge nudge wink wink sort of thing.

 
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: LadySmith on March 16, 2009, 06:28:54 AM
California: where the legislators think they rule the people and the people pretend to be ruled. ;)
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 16, 2009, 02:04:39 PM
Warren speak true.

Everybody there knows the tube weasels are illegal, but they still go about their business and keep them anyway.

We almost bought one when we lived in Citrus Heights, but we didn't know how well it would've gotten along with our cat.

My neighbors in Florida had a pair of ferrets, and I was woken up several nights by two furry little guys looking to play.

They snuck out in the middle of the night, came in via my roommate's cat door, and proceeded to entertain themselves. 

Sleeping humans are indeed fair game, it appears.   =D



Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Matthew Carberry on March 16, 2009, 03:15:45 PM
Warren speak true.

Everybody there knows the tube weasels are illegal, but they still go about their business and keep them anyway.

We almost bought one when we lived in Citrus Heights, but we didn't know how well it would've gotten along with our cat.

My neighbors in Florida had a pair of ferrets, and I was woken up several nights by two furry little guys looking to play.

They snuck out in the middle of the night, came in via my roommate's cat door, and proceeded to entertain themselves. 

Sleeping humans are indeed fair game, it appears.   =D





Thank heaven they don't get any bigger.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Balog on March 16, 2009, 03:17:56 PM
I lurv me some ferrets. I can't wait to get a house so I can buy a couple.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 16, 2009, 03:29:46 PM
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Thank heaven they don't get any bigger.

Oh, they were an absolute riot, and I felt bad carrying the squirmy little dudes back to the neighbor's house several nights in a row, waking them up and asking them if they were missing somebody.  I figured I could just close my bedroom door, and would've loved to have an open-door ferret policy in the house, but I rented from my roommate, and he wasn't too keen on a ferret/cat dual residency. 

It's unnerving, though, having a couple little ferret noses twittering in your face when you're sleeping.  They were just curious and looking for fun, but if you didn't know any better (and I didn't the first night it happened) then you're in for a bit of a shock.

Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Strings on March 16, 2009, 08:27:38 PM
Heh... girl I used to date had one of the definitions of True Evil: a ferret with it's own brain.

Little known fact: 95-99% of the ferrets in the world all share one brain. If you watch them, you can see when one gets his turn: he'll stop, look around kinda stunned... then his turn is over, and he continues bouncing sideways along.

But Ferdinand had a brain all his own: the ONLY place in that apartment he couldn't get to was the bloody ceiling fan. There were cupboards WE had trouble getting into, that he had no issues with.

 While I was dating her, I had to treat my boots in the morning like I was in a desert: shake 'em out before putting 'em on. Seems the tube kitties thought cav boots were the PERFECT place to sleep...
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Balog on March 16, 2009, 09:16:48 PM
My wife had a bad day: I had her picture ferrets frisking with a puppy to cheer her up. :)
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: MillCreek on March 16, 2009, 09:51:26 PM
To steal from Dave Barry, "Strangling the Ferret" would be an excellent name for a rock band.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Gun Runner on March 17, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
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Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: BlueStarLizzard on March 17, 2009, 03:06:15 PM
i love ferrets too.

whenever we have them at the kennel i always call ferret duty. we have two that used to come in often. Izzy and Tizzy. those two and a jingly cat toy could entertain for hours.

i did once see a special about ferret fanciers on PBS and i must say they might actually be crazier then dog fanciers. (BTW, i have come to the conclusion that all those who breed, show and devote their life to a particular animal are nuts, myself included.  =D )
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Antibubba on March 18, 2009, 04:47:02 PM
Quote from: Gewehr98
  We almost bought one when we lived in Citrus Heights, but we didn't know how well it would've gotten along with our cat.

When did you live in Citrus Heights?
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 18, 2009, 09:34:38 PM
1994-1999 for Citrus Heights.

1991-1994 we lived in Orangevale, just down Greenback Lane a smidgen. 
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Jamisjockey on March 19, 2009, 06:10:51 AM
When I was a kid we lived on El Toro Marine Base.  There was an open field next to the playground.  I remember there were these ferret-like critters that roamed that field, not sure if they were wild weasels of some kind or ferrets, but I remember them pretty well.  We'd stand along the fence and watch them during recess.  Maybe 6th grade.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Antibubba on March 19, 2009, 11:31:28 AM
Before my time--I didn't get out here until 2002.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Matthew Carberry on March 19, 2009, 04:18:15 PM
When I was a kid we lived on El Toro Marine Base.  There was an open field next to the playground.  I remember there were these ferret-like critters that roamed that field, not sure if they were wild weasels of some kind or ferrets, but I remember them pretty well.  We'd stand along the fence and watch them during recess.  Maybe 6th grade.

Did they have J79 turbofan engines?  Cause then yes, those were Wild Weasels.
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
Post by: Gewehr98 on March 19, 2009, 05:43:15 PM
The Marines didn't have Wild Weasels.

Those were the poor guys in the USAF F-100s, F-105s, and eventually Lead Sleds (aka, F-4G Phantoms), doing their best to get a missile radar locked on them so they could shoot back at the SAM site that painted them.   :O

F-16s are doing the same thing now.

The program was originally dubbed "Project Ferret". 
Title: Re: Ferrets Anonymous, how weird California's laws are!
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