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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2011, 11:04:26 AM »
Would not attempt the arm down throat with a dog that has titaniam teeth, though...

The SOCOM dogs are pretty much bionic dogs.

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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2011, 11:27:02 AM »
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I bet someone at DARPA somewhere is working on training dogs to use thermal goggles.

Actually, the dog's nose would be far more effective.  ;)
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2011, 12:18:16 PM »
Actually, the dog's nose would be far more effective.  ;)

That needs no improvement.

And I would have said NV, but the dogs are probably already as good as a Gen III NVD, so I went with thermal.

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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2011, 12:58:36 PM »
Which Cyberpunk book had the augmented thermal sniffer dogs?
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2011, 01:17:45 PM »
Which Cyberpunk book had the augmented thermal sniffer dogs?

Uh... "Count Zero" I think. The storyline of the Merc who escaped with the scientist's daughter from the Maas Biolabs complex built into a Southwestern U.S. desert mesa. He went to his brother for a hideout/help. His brother had dogs with "hoods" that had NGV/Thermal/Sensors over their heads as a security system.

I believe there was a comment made that there were no rabbits, raccoons, or possums left in the area.  =D
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #30 on: May 19, 2011, 01:27:37 PM »
actually, I was under the impression that they do it before the dog breaks teeth, simple so it won't happen in the feild. The toes and nails are also reinforced.
The stomachs are also sewn to the abdomen wall to prevent tortion during jumps.

And its only done to a few dogs.

And I would think it to be smart. A dog who busts something ibecauses generally a pain in the ass. Not so much because the dog would be in pain, but... Well, flinging blood comes to mind. Especially on busted toes.

I'm suprise they don't also crop ears, as injuries to the ear generally result in a distracted dog, and more flinging blood. Ear injuries take forever to heal, because dogs shake their heads. But I guess, since the generally have prick eared dogs, and people at large are not a fan of earcropping, they don't do it.

The Anatolians Louise sold to the Air Force many years ago had their teeth and stomachs done.
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #31 on: May 19, 2011, 01:31:01 PM »
Maybe it's caps then.

Because even the best dental implants just don't hold as well as real tooth roots. Nor do they feel right, being dead metal. Teeth do actually provide a lot of sensation, but we only tend to notice when it's pain, or it's suddenly gone.
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #32 on: May 19, 2011, 01:44:07 PM »
Maybe it's caps then.

Because even the best dental implants just don't hold as well as real tooth roots. Nor do they feel right, being dead metal. Teeth do actually provide a lot of sensation, but we only tend to notice when it's pain, or it's suddenly gone.

You got to think of this from a diffrent perspective. Its not about making the dogs teeth some badass weapon, but preventing pain and damage to the dog.

My dads terrier, Northwest, once got in a fight with my beagle. Actually, Northwest was beating the crap out of Buster. When Dad pulled Northwest off, he wouldn't let go and held on to Buster so tight , he essentially pulled out his own fang.
Now, Northwest wasn't so bothered by this. He was more concerned with being top dog then the fang hanging out of his mouth and blood pouring all over the place. But it sure bothered dad.

Caps wouldn'tprevent this kinda thing, but fake teeth would. Northwests tooth ripped sraight out, but that was luck. One ripped out halfway or to the side wouldbe a lot worse. Fake teeth that have a bit less hold wouldactually be better.
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #33 on: May 19, 2011, 02:26:33 PM »
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Fake teeth that have a bit less hold would actually be better.

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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2011, 03:54:01 PM »
Sadly, I looked into this further and that's just a rumor. Apparently they'd only do that if a dog broke it's teeth, and it's skills were so good it was worth the dental work, rather than retiring the dog. Despite the actual strength of the Titanium tooth or teeth, the tooth to jaw interface would never be as strong as a live tooth and that dog would actually be a at a disadvantage.

One of those things one certainly wants to believe is true, though, it sounds so cool.

Seems kind of a mean thing to do to a doggy, if his teeth were healthy. =(
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2011, 04:00:16 PM »
Why has nobody posted this yet?


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« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2011, 04:57:15 PM »
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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2011, 05:10:08 PM »
Uh... "Count Zero" I think. The storyline of the Merc who escaped with the scientist's daughter from the Maas Biolabs complex built into a Southwestern U.S. desert mesa. He went to his brother for a hideout/help. His brother had dogs with "hoods" that had NGV/Thermal/Sensors over their heads as a security system.

I believe there was a comment made that there were no rabbits, raccoons, or possums left in the area.  =D


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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #39 on: May 19, 2011, 05:15:45 PM »
Dogs'll watch the house." He scratched the animal behind its plastic hood. "Right, boy?" The dog whined and twitched. "I had to train `em off coon hunting when I put their infrareds in," he said. "There wouldn't've been any coons left in the county .

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Re: The bulletproof dog that stormed Bin Laden's compund
« Reply #40 on: May 19, 2011, 05:39:31 PM »
Dogs'll watch the house." He scratched the animal behind its plastic hood. "Right, boy?" The dog whined and twitched. "I had to train `em off coon hunting when I put their infrareds in," he said. "There wouldn't've been any coons left in the county .

http://www.voidspace.org.uk/cyberpunk/gibson_countzero.shtml

I guess I remembered it pretty well.  =D

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