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Title: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 31, 2017, 12:13:19 PM
http://www.dailywire.com/news/19150/media-trumpets-bible-wrong-oops-hank-berrien

tl;dr version: Media generated a bunch of headlines, claiming that a new study contradicted the Bible's claims that the ancient Israelites completely eradicated the Canaanites that originally lived in the Holy Land. The trouble for our journalist friends is that the Bible repeatedly makes clear that the Israelites did NOT follow God's order to kill all of the Canaanites. So, according to the Bible, one would expect Canaanite DNA to live on, as the study indicated.



Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: 230RN on July 31, 2017, 07:54:05 PM
Is that the one where they circumcised 400 enemies?
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: MechAg94 on July 31, 2017, 08:01:51 PM
Non-Christians don't know what the Bible actual says!  Breaking News at Eleven! 

Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: MechAg94 on July 31, 2017, 08:06:39 PM
I was thinking I remember a pastor linking one of the bad guys in the Book of Esther to one of the kings that was allowed to leave with this family.  I can't remember if it was a Canaanite king.  The name was similar if I remember right.  I don't think it was proven or anything.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: zxcvbob on July 31, 2017, 08:31:56 PM
I was thinking I remember a pastor linking one of the bad guys in the Book of Esther to one of the kings that was allowed to leave with this family.  I can't remember if it was a Canaanite king.  The name was similar if I remember right.  I don't think it was proven or anything.

Haman, the Amalekite (sp?)  The Jews were commanded to exterminate the Amalekites (Deut 25:19) but King Saul showed them mercy.  Next generation, Haman returned the favor by trying to exterminate the Jews.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: lee n. field on July 31, 2017, 09:41:18 PM
I was thinking I remember a pastor linking one of the bad guys in the Book of Esther to one of the kings that was allowed to leave with this family.  I can't remember if it was a Canaanite king.  The name was similar if I remember right.  I don't think it was proven or anything.

Agag, king of Amalek.  Except he got killed, but maybe some sons were elsewhere.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: zxcvbob on July 31, 2017, 09:46:32 PM
Agag, king of Amalek.  Except he got killed, but maybe some sons were elsewhere.

I *think* he was the father of Haman, and sired him between the time Saul should have executed him and when Samuel actually did.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: grampster on July 31, 2017, 09:58:36 PM
Non-Christians don't know what the Bible actual says!  Breaking News at Eleven! 



There are a goodly number of religious people who claim to be Christian who don't know what the bible actually says.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: MillCreek on July 31, 2017, 10:20:52 PM
There are a goodly number of religious people who claim to be Christian who have differing opinions as to don't know what the Bbible actually says.

Just throwing that out there.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 31, 2017, 11:21:59 PM
There are a goodly number of religious people who claim to be Christian who don't know what the bible actually says.


And when they employ their ignorance in a misguided attempt to out-smart the Bible (like some journalists did in the OP), we can make fun of them, too.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: zxcvbob on August 01, 2017, 01:10:00 AM
I *think* he was the father of Haman, and sired him between the time Saul should have executed him and when Samuel actually did.

I can't find anything in 1 Samuel 15 to support what I just said.   =|  Haven't searched 1 Chronicles yet, but I doubt it's in there.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: Pb on August 01, 2017, 11:10:47 AM
I *think* he was the father of Haman, and sired him between the time Saul should have executed him and when Samuel actually did.

That is in a movie about Queen Esther... not actually the Bible.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: makattak on August 01, 2017, 11:21:44 AM
That is in a movie about Queen Esther... not actually the Bible.

You're right that the Bible does not list his genealogy, but does refer to his father as an "Agagite."

Jewish tradition, from that, holds that he is a direct descendant of King Agag and of Esau. Josephus also recounts this history.

So, it wasn't just something made up for a movie.

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/7124-haman-the-agagite

And now you know.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: zxcvbob on August 01, 2017, 05:11:24 PM
That is in a movie about Queen Esther... not actually the Bible.

I have not seen any movies about Esther.  ("Veggie Tales" doesn't count)
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: MechAg94 on August 01, 2017, 05:39:47 PM
I have not seen any movies about Esther.  ("Veggie Tales" doesn't count)
I guess Sanford and Son doesn't count either.
Title: Re: Fake News: Bible Edition
Post by: MechAg94 on August 01, 2017, 05:56:02 PM

And when they employ their ignorance in a misguided attempt to out-smart the Bible (like some journalists did in the OP), we can make fun of them, too.
Exactly.  I don't think there is a religion out there that doesn't have followers that are largely ignorant of their own religion.