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Title: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: Ben on June 15, 2017, 12:04:24 PM
Navy sailor that was presumed missing at sea was found hiding in the engine room. Seems like if he didn't prepare for that himself with food and water (or at least water), he must have had help. Also the whole needing to hit the head thing so going #2 on the deck didn't give him away. Also that was a lot of money wasted by two countries for the search.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/06/15/us-navy-sailor-presumed-lost-at-sea-is-found-hiding-in-ships-engine-room.html
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: MechAg94 on June 15, 2017, 03:28:27 PM
So what sort of punishment would he be in for?  Is it desertion if he didn't leave the ship? 
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 15, 2017, 03:37:27 PM
Was it freakazoid?

So what sort of punishment would he be in for?

Rum, sodomy, and the lash.


Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: freakazoid on June 15, 2017, 08:08:55 PM
Was it freakazoid?

Rum, sodomy, and the lash.




Nope! I'm on shore command.  =D
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: Hawkmoon on June 15, 2017, 08:12:41 PM
So what sort of punishment would he be in for?  Is it desertion if he didn't leave the ship? 

More likely dereliction of duty (but I've been out of uniform for almost 50 years, so that's a fuzzy guess).
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: French G. on June 15, 2017, 08:16:50 PM
Nanny filter will stop me from saying how it really is. He risked other people's lives.  Should be dealt with as attempted murder. We always had some idiot who thought it was funny to toss a chemlight, flashlight, or MOBI overboard at 3am just because they hated the Navy. Up goes the helo in the dark to try and save someone.

 A real fun one is the search when after two weeks at sea it comes to light that the dude that was mustered present every morning was actually still present in Norfolk.
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: HeroHog on June 15, 2017, 08:18:12 PM
There are bilges in the engine room. Guys have pissed and puked in them for years. What's a turd or two among friends?
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: Perd Hapley on June 15, 2017, 11:05:24 PM
Nope! I'm on shore command.  =D

So you're really, really overboard.
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: Scout26 on June 16, 2017, 04:55:48 PM
Was it freakazoid?

Rum, sodomy, and the lash.




I thought sailors got that everyday....and if not, why not... :P :P :P :P



And I'd have to go dig out my (outdated) UCMJ to see what he could be charged with.   But he'll probably end up eating the Big Chicken Dinner....

(BCD- Bad Conduct Discharge....Buh-Bye Veterans Benefits....)
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: French G. on June 16, 2017, 06:46:21 PM
For those not in the Navy man overboard is about the fourth worst thing that can happen right behind missiles getting chucked at you, main space fires, and water where it is not supposed to be and rising. Everything stops for man overboard. My last ship I got onboard for the last few weeks of a 9 month deployment. No one had died,not even in the ashore MEU that was in combat. A rarity. Every deployment, someone died peacetime or not. A few days onboard and someone comes up missing. 19 year E6 had kiddie pornon the government computer. Oops. Most likely jumped to get his wife the life insurance since there would be no pension. Maybe pushed. We reversed course, headed back east for a full day. Stayed at general quarters forever, searched everything many times. Never found. The Marines were livid, 9 months in the sand, now this. Wanted  posters appeared quickly. Condition unimportant.

Two days later a flight deck hand reached for a tossed football. Fell down bomb disposal ramp. He was seen in the water, had a float coat, it was daylight and moderate seas, lookout got a smoke right on him, still lost at sea in the few minutes it took to get the boat on the smoke.

It is deadly serious, you do not screw around with man overboard and if I didn't personally see you then you aren't mustered. Needs some wall to wall counseling.
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: RoadKingLarry on June 16, 2017, 08:35:40 PM
Pretty much what French G said.

Subs typically didn't have too much problem with folks going missing while underway.
except for a few rare swim calls topside on a sub while underway on the surface meant harnesses, lanyards and clipped in to the safety track.
Did hear of one boat late '70s, early '80s was transiting out of SF bay and took a massive wave over the bridge, lost the CO, just - gone -, never recovered.

Never lost a crew member on any of the deployments I was on.
Had a few injuries and a couple of illnesses and one nuke discovered the hard way that he had epilepsy. I'd gotten up to hit the head and he was in full blown grand mal in his bunk when I came out.
 
Title: Re: Man Overboard! Or Not
Post by: HeroHog on June 16, 2017, 08:47:44 PM
Had a bubble head (submariner) die on topside watch on a sub moored right next us. Apparently slipped, hit his head, slipped under and died. Divers never could find the 1911 he had on him at the time.