Gang of Six deficit reduction plan

[seeker_two]

If the Tea Party folks "stay home" they'd better be planning for survival, of themselves and of this Republic.  What we are seeing unfolding in D.C. is a drama that makes clear we are the AUDIENCE, not any longer a self-governing people.  There can be no serious reforms of this government coming from inside this government.  It's obvious, just for starters, we need term limits, but is this Congress going to vote term limits on itself?

I've got a feeling that, if the GOP caves like this and nominates a Demo-lite like Romney or Christie for the POTUS run, the Tea Party will start focusing more on state elections and getting people elected who aren't afraid to tell the FedGov to *expletive deleted* itself....

....and that's when the fun will begin....

[birdman]

That's an interesting side point. I'm ambivalent on term limits in general, but how is it the executive is term-limited and the legislative and judicial branches not? Recognizinging the specific post-FDR politics, it's not philosophically consistent.

True, but who was writing the laws?

[tokugawa]

Every time a increase taxes and cut spending bill gets passed, we get the tax increase. The promised cuts disappear.

[MechAg94]

Every time a increase taxes and cut spending bill gets passed, we get the tax increase. The promised cuts disappear.

If you notice, most of those "deals" involve tax increases and future cuts  rather than cuts now.  Most of the actual cuts I have heard thrown around recently were sickeningly small.

[AZRedhawk44]

I went hunting around, looking for the names of this "gang of six."

I am 100% shocked and awed that John McCain isn't one of them.  You can usually count on him to be behind anything that throws the Republic under the bus in order to cater to Statists.

I guess old age is finally catching up with him, or he overslept his "Overthrow America" meeting at 8AM that day.

[Scout26]

That Coburn is one of the Gang of Six is surprising.  I thought he was more of a libertarian/TEA party type.  I know he's strong on 2A issues.

And if Chambliss, Coburn, and Crapo think that Dickie Durbin isn't dealing off the bottom of the deck are kidding themselves.

Durbin and Kirk (barely even a good RINO, more like a D in R clothing) have already gotten calls and e-mails from me saying pass Cut, Cap and Balance along with the Balanced Budget amendment.

[Waitone]

I think republicans caving will infuriate TEA party types.  I think it will drive them into a frenzy at the congressional level.  They saw last election the effect they had in the primaries.  Obama may well be re-elected but he won't have a congress he can control.

[longeyes]

Word is that Coburn is close, personally, with Obama.  That, if true, might explain the inexplicable.

[Balog]

Word is that Coburn is close, personally, with Obama.  That, if true, might explain the inexplicable.

Where did you hear that?

[longeyes]

Sorry, I don't remember, one of the radio commentators.  I think the story went that Obama courted Coburn personally, sought his wise counsel, etc., when he was still a Senator.  Can't vouch for its truthfulness.  Someone should ask Coburn about it.

[birdman]

An important aspect of this that some are forgetting (or glossing over on purpose)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gang-of-sixs-3-trillion-tax-hike/2011/07/21/gIQAh66rRI_story.html

[longeyes]

I think republicans caving will infuriate TEA party types.  I think it will drive them into a frenzy at the congressional level.  They saw last election the effect they had in the primaries.  Obama may well be re-elected but he won't have a congress he can control.

This.  An increasingly ungovernable nation.  My own view is that the Left inseminated America with America Two fifty years ago and it's finally been born.  Those who cling to the idea of one nation indivisible are going to be in for a very rude shock.  What's coming is not a secession movement but, rather, an emancipation movement from a people that wants a divorce. Far-fetched?  We'll see.  Right now most of us are just unwilling passengers on a runaway train.