Ted is Dead

[Phyphor]

We're not showing sympathy, we're simply not going to drag his corpse through the street. 

I'm not sure why this is so hard to grok especially considering the righteous indignation if this were Reagan being trashed on DU.

Chris

QFT!!

If one wishes to claim the moral high ground, then it usually behooves one to actually hold that ground.

Dems/kooks/ne'r-do-wells may crow over the deaths of those they're against, but that doesn't mean we have to do the same.

In any case, may he rest in peace.

[taurusowner]

If he wasn't a killer, I might be inclined to take the high road so to speak.  But the fact is, he killed someone.  That changes everything for me.

[Declaration Day]

If he wasn't a killer, I might be inclined to take the high road so to speak.  But the fact is, he killed someone.  That changes everything for me.

Agreed, so I guess I'll say nothing about that "person", as my membership here isn't worth the risk.  

[Jamisjockey]

If he wasn't a killer, I might be inclined to take the high road so to speak.  But the fact is, he killed someone.  That changes everything for me.

While it would appear so, he was never convicted.

[cassandra and sara's daddy]

what did he plead to? i forget

[mtnbkr]

Leaving the scene of the accident or something like that.

Chris

[Balog]

Not familiar with Taxachusett state law, but if his name wasn't Kennedy would that have been manslaughter or negligent homicide? I'm thinking negligent homicide, but like I say I know as little as possible about that state.

[Perd Hapley]

If one wishes to claim the moral high ground, then it usually behooves one to actually hold that ground.

Dems/kooks/ne'r-do-wells may crow over the deaths of those they're against, but that doesn't mean we have to do the same.

In any case, may he rest in peace. 

We hold the moral high ground regardless. 

[Ben]

Interestingly, ABC News is running a blog about "What do the Kennedys mean to you?"

I think they were expecting a bunch of gushy comments about the "American Royalty", but instead are getting around 99% negative comments. I can't believe it's all "right wing extremists" as the 1% of "positive" posts claim. Seems like there is a pretty good political mix not all that enthralled with Camelot.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/08/what-do-the-kennedys-mean-to-you/comments/page/1/#comments

[Scout26]

Interestingly, ABC News is running a blog about "What do the Kennedys mean to you?"

I think they were expecting a bunch of gushy comments about the "American Royalty", but instead are getting around 99% negative comments. I can't believe it's all "right wing extremists" as the 1% of "positive" posts claim. Seems like there is a pretty good political mix not all that enthralled with Camelot.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theworldnewser/2009/08/what-do-the-kennedys-mean-to-you/comments/page/1/#comments

WOW, I read quite a ways down and didn't see one positive comment.  However, there is some pretty good snark. 

The Shrivers were nice.

He reminds us that stimulus money needs to be diverted to building guard rails for bridges.

[Waitone]

Last I check the only Americans enthused with royalty is the media.  Joe and Martha Sixpack ain't got the time of day for pomposity.

[Hawkmoon]

I am ill.

I just read that Teddy was buried in Arlington, and received a military rifle salute. How does he come to be buried among the heroes of this country? How did he rate a military rifle salute? Teddy Kennedy never served a day in uniform. {Edit: I have been informed that he did spend a minimum enlistment as a Private, in Germany, during the Korean Conflict.}

And then there was this:

At a packed funeral Mass earlier Saturday in his hometown, Edward Kennedy was remembered as a fierce competitor, a tender-hearted father, and, in the words of President Obama, "the greatest legislator of all time."

Where is that :BARF: icon when I need it? I can't believe even Obama would stoop to calling Teddy the greatest legislator of all time. That's not only an insult to the great legislators who have gone before him, it's also an insult to the many mediocre legislators who were, nonethelesss, better than he.

Excuse me, I have to go throw up ...

[Nitrogen]

Ted Kennedy at times was a helper/voice for the working class people, well I don't agree with many of the things he did in his life, he did at times try to take of the little guy.

This.  I may not agree with a lot of his stances, he seemed like a more principled guy than most of our other congress critters these days, especially in his last 15 years.

He never knew what it was like to struggle, yet he always had his eye out for those of us struggling.  I didn't agree with a lot of his methods for helping the little guy out, but he was looking out for his constituents, unlike 90% of congress these days.

[Perd Hapley]

Had he cared one bit about the little guy, he would have checked to see whether his methods were helping or hurting.  The road to a broken country is paved with good intentions and dead Kennedys. 

No, not the band; the politicians. 

[SteveS]

Last I check the only Americans enthused with royalty is the media.  Joe and Martha Sixpack ain't got the time of day for pomposity.

Yeah, history shows they have more important things to obsess over, like Michael Jackson, OJ Simpson, Anna Nichole Smith and other paragons of importance. 

[280plus]

Excuse me, I have to go throw up ...

Easy big fella. Can I get you some koolaid?

See, your mistake was watching that drivel. I watched Andy Griffith all day, my blood pressure is probably still a bit lower than it should be from all that Mayberry goodness. 

My first hint that I should find TV solitude amongst the massive coverage was when I heard Biden say he led a heroic life.

[HankB]

I may not agree with a lot of his stances, he seemed like a more principled guy than most of our other congress critters these days, especially in his last 15 years.

I believe you may be confusing consistency with principles. Many other legislators shift their positions with overnight polls and campaign contributions, showing that they, in fact, stand for nothing.

But Teddy could be counted on to do the wrong thing and espouse the wrong position with regularity; I don't equate consistent bad behavior - in both public and private affairs - with principles.

[Waitone]

I think Teddy was sincere in his beliefs.  He was also wrong more often than not.

[Jamisjockey]

I believe you may be confusing consistency with principles. Many other legislators shift their positions with overnight polls and campaign contributions, showing that they, in fact, stand for nothing.

But Teddy could be counted on to do the wrong thing and espouse the wrong position with regularity; I don't equate consistent bad behavior - in both public and private affairs - with principles.

Wrong is a moral relativity.  In his heart, he believed it was right.  If only we could get some conservative leadership with that level of fortitude.  Considering the right-bent nature of our populous, we might actually have a conservative government.

[Gewehr98]

I see CNN is reporting that he asked the Pope to pray for him.  A copy of the letter to the Pope is included in the article.  Nowhere do I read in that letter any mention of remorse for Mary Jo.

[KD5NRH]

Wrong is a moral relativity.  In his heart, he believed it was right.

In his heart, Jim Jones probably believed he was right.

[seeker_two]

In his heart, Jim Jones probably believed he was right.

...as did your friendly neighborhood child molester....

[doczinn]

....and Mao....


(this could keep going for days)

[Jamisjockey]

But it won't.  Comparing Ted Kennedy to Mao and Jim Jones?
 :rolleyes: