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Title: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 14, 2024, 04:11:58 PM
Reported at least 10 people shot.
2 reportedly arrested
Developing story


Kansas City Chiefs parade shooting: At least one dead and multiple injured after gunmen open fire in Union Station while a MILLION gathered to watch Travis Kelce and teammates celebrate Super Bowl win
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-13084401/Kansas-City-Chiefs-parade-descends-chaos-police-draw-guns-rush-Union-Station-fans-duck-cover-spectator-carted-hospital.html

1 dead, multiple people shot near Chiefs' Super Bowl victory rally in Kansas City
https://www.foxnews.com/us/dead-multiple-people-shot-near-chiefs-super-bowl-victory-rally-kansas-city

Chaos has broken out at the end of the Chiefs Super Bowl parade. Police and military personnel just took off inside of Union Station
https://twitter.com/NPNOWMeikel/status/1757858605015953585
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Ben on February 14, 2024, 04:58:18 PM
The alleged shooters appear to be of the "not old white guys" variety, so this should disappear in the next couple of days.

https://twitchy.com/dougp/2024/02/14/shooting-reported-at-kansas-city-chiefs-super-bowl-parade-n2392941
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: BobR on February 14, 2024, 06:53:16 PM
Kansas City is usually in the top 10 in the nation for homicides but they keep trying to move up in the rankings.

bob
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 14, 2024, 07:39:13 PM
Saying 1 death with 22 wounded including 8 children

https://www.foxnews.com/us/dead-people-injured-shooting-near-chiefs-super-bowl-victory-rally-kansas-city
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 14, 2024, 07:50:32 PM
And seeing reports of an "assault" rifle which could mean something that looks scary

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New video has since emerged showing what sounds like rapid gun shot fire being let off at the parade.

Other footage shows the moment a suspect is tackled by Chiefs fans, with one woman seen picking up what appears to be an assault rifle.

The group hauled the alleged gunman to the ground and then shouted 'we got the gun.' The men held down the suspect until cops arrived to detain him.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13085201/NINE-children-shot-Kansas-City-Super-Bowl-parade-left-one-dead-18-injured-new-footage-shows-moment-gunman-opened-fire-assault-rifle.html

I can't make out what that is except it's black and maybe rifle/carbine size

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/14/23/81283155-13085201-image-m-24_1707954894530.jpg)

Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 14, 2024, 08:38:07 PM
49ers fans:  "Maybe losing the game isn't so bad."
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 14, 2024, 09:07:58 PM
And of course CNN has to attack Missouri's gun laws

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Missouri gun laws make it difficult to secure events like the Super Bowl celebration, according to CNN analyst

Events like the Kansas City Super Bowl parade and rally are "almost impossible to completely secure," according to CNN senior law enforcement analyst Andrew McCabe.

    "It is a massive open space. Tickets are not required. There are no gates and, you know, admission areas," the former deputy director of the FBI told CNN's Wolf Blitzer Wednesday.

McCabe noted that Missouri's gun laws do not require residents to have a state permit or licensing requirement before buying or owning rifles, shotguns or handguns, according to the National Rifle Association of America.

"You have a huge crowd and likely a large, you know, significant portion of that population carrying firearms. So any conflict or dispute can easily turn into a shooting and then you have what we saw today, and that's assuming it wasn't sort of a targeted or directed effort by people for political or other reasons," he said.

Some background: Everytown for Gun Safety, a non-profit organization that focuses on gun violence prevention, ranks Missouri as 38th in the country for gun law strength, noting it has "none of the foundational gun violence prevention laws." The Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence says the state has "appallingly weak gun laws and one of the country’s highest gun death rates."
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 14, 2024, 09:20:46 PM
And heeeeeere's President Harris

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Kamala Harris calls on Congress to pass “reasonable gun safety laws” after Kansas City shooting

Vice President Kamala Harris called on Congress members to pass “reasonable gun safety laws” after Wednesday’s shooting following a parade for the Super Bowl-winning Kansas City Chiefs.

    “The reality of it is a lot of this can be prevented if members of legislatures, including the United States Congress, just have the courage to act with reasonable gun safety law,” Harris told reporters at Joint Base Andrews before stepping aboard Air Force 2 en route to the Munich Security Conference.

Harris added that her prayers are with those who have been affected by the shooting.

In September 2023, President Joe Biden established the first-ever White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, and tasked the vice president with overseeing the office.
https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/kansas-city-chiefs-parade-shooting-02-14-24/index.html
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: 230RN on February 14, 2024, 09:50:38 PM
It's all pre-scripted.

Case A, say this

Case B, say that

Case C, say the other thing

In all cases, anything that goes bang is an assault rifle.  Be sure to repeat those words at all opportunities.

Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 14, 2024, 10:41:03 PM
Funny how Vice President Black Female knows what would have prevented this well before the facts have come out.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 15, 2024, 12:44:37 AM
I'm guessing either someone of middle eastern genetics, or Sumdood trying to whack Dindu...
 
Given that I haven't been able to find anything out about the identity/identify of the shooter, I'm guessing protected class, buried immediately. Wondering if the guys the cops grabbed were maybe armed citizens who drew when they heard the shots...
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 15, 2024, 06:58:14 AM
"high-caliber rifle"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13085775/Kansas-city-shooting-parade-terrorism.html
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/15/05/81292409-13085775-image-a-2_1707976765638.jpg)
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: dogmush on February 15, 2024, 07:26:13 AM
I think Bogie's right.  This is going to end up being gangbangers shooting at each other.

We might see some pistol brace agitation in the law makers though since that looks like a short "concealable" AR.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 15, 2024, 07:52:41 AM
I think Bogie's right.  This is going to end up being gangbangers shooting at each other.


Read they're already pretty much ruled out this was planned and are strongly hinting it was criminal activity. My guess rival gang members spotted each other.
Three people have been reported arrested.

One of them, supposedly the man tackled

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/02/15/11/81292407-13085775-The_suspect_is_seen_in_this_picture_after_being_tackled_by_the_c-m-2_1707997456479.jpg)
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 15, 2024, 07:56:07 AM
Actually I'm wondering if the AR was even fired. He could have pulled it out after one or both of the other two started firing perhaps at him
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 15, 2024, 08:52:45 AM
Think that's a ProMag 40 in the picture

(https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-qnkfc65h0p/images/stencil/1280x1280/products/540/2332/RM-40-FDE-1__63113.1545332806.jpg?c=2)
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Pb on February 15, 2024, 09:14:06 AM
I think Bogie's right.  This is going to end up being gangbangers shooting at each other.


One or two people killed and 10+ injured?  That is SOP for gangbanger morons.  See someone you don't like in a crowd, and open fire in the general direction. 
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 15, 2024, 12:08:46 PM
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An eyewitness to the horror Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting claimed a woman pleaded with a gunman 'don't do it' seconds before he spun in circles to pepper as many people with bullets as possible.

Jacob Gooch Jr, who was shot in the chaos alongside his wife and son, told CBS Mornings that he heard a young woman tell the shooter, 'not here, this is stupid.'

'My wife and daughter saw the gun come out and start shooting,' he said. 'My daughter said some lady was holding him back... then he pulled (the gun) out and started shooting and spinning in a circle.'

And from the mayor

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He added in an interview with CBS that a motive for the massacre remains a mystery, and condemned the ease of access to firearms in Missouri as 'this is not the way I want to live.'

Lucas did not offer specifics on the type of gun used, but said it appeared to be 'some sort of rapid-fire firearm.'

Why don't you do something about the gangs in your city instead of blaming the gun? Oh wait, you're a democrat
And they still haven't IDed the gunman(s). Bet dollars to donuts he's/they're a repeat felon(s) they let back out on the street repeatedly. But you know, we need to ban guns.

Kansas City Chiefs parade shooter 'sprayed bullets into crowd by spinning in a circle' before fleeing, says witness
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13087931/kansas-city-chiefs-parade-shooting-witness-spinning.html
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: RocketMan on February 15, 2024, 12:12:50 PM
This shooting would not have happened if that area had been declared a gun free zone.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 15, 2024, 05:14:21 PM
Gang violence by juveniles is not domestic terrorism extremism.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: French G. on February 15, 2024, 11:20:29 PM
Gang violence by juveniles is not domestic terrorism extremism.

But it is handy when you need another preachy PSA on how many childr3n die each day from gun violence.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: JTHunter on February 16, 2024, 12:04:42 AM
Three in custody, two are juvies (under 18) that may be certified as adults.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 16, 2024, 01:46:46 AM
Likely a gang thing - KC has a MUCH worse problem with that than STL... They got organized back in the roaring 90s, where STL street/block gangs basically threw out the crips and bloods.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Ben on February 16, 2024, 09:06:33 AM
Interesting tangent: Six people were shot, one killed, in a NYC subway shooting on Monday. It may have been in the news, but I sure didn't see it.

https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/15/president-joe-biden-seems-to-have-overlooked-this-shooting-n2392996
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 16, 2024, 09:16:59 AM
Interesting tangent: Six people were shot, one killed, in a NYC subway shooting on Monday. It may have been in the news, but I sure didn't see it.

https://twitchy.com/brettt/2024/02/15/president-joe-biden-seems-to-have-overlooked-this-shooting-n2392996

Saw it in the news, almost posted something.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Jim147 on February 16, 2024, 02:20:15 PM
I'm surprised it's stayed in the news this long since they know it wasn't a Trump voter.

With around a million people there I going to guess there were 10,000-50,000 guns in that crowd that never shot anyone.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 16, 2024, 03:25:10 PM
Slap on the wrist coming right up

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Two teenagers have been charged as juveniles in the Kansas City Chiefs parade shooting, despite a prosecutor previously saying they would be accused as adults.

The suspects, who remain unidentified by authorities, are charged with gun-related offenses and resisting arrest, said The Jackson County Family Court division.

'It is anticipated that additional charges are expected in the future as the investigation by the Kansas City Police Department continues,' the Office of the Juvenile Officer said in a statement.

Missouri law dictates that juvenile hearings are not open to the public.

A third juvenile initially believed to be involved has since been determined to not been connected to the shooting and was released.

Kansas City parade shooting suspects are charged as MINORS, despite prosecutor previously claiming they'd face justice as adults - meaning their identities may be kept private
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13092989/Two-minors-charged-Kansas-City-Chief-parade-shooting.html
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 17, 2024, 08:23:25 PM
I'm guessing that both of the little bleeps keep saying "I know my rights!"
 
They may already be released - if they were in St. Louis, that would be quite likely.
 
They need to put 'em in general pop, and let the football fans know who they are.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 17, 2024, 08:26:20 PM
I'm guessing that both of the little bleeps keep saying "I know my rights!"
 
They may already be released - if they were in St. Louis, that would be quite likely.
 
They need to put 'em in general pop, and let the football fans know who they are.

One of them or one of his friends reportedly has half his jaw blown off

Kansas City Chiefs parade shooting suspects are captured in heated exchange moments before gunfight killed one and injured 22 others - as teen is seen walking away clutching his bloody face
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13096129/Kansas-City-Chiefs-parade-shooting-suspects-fight-video.html
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 17, 2024, 08:38:37 PM
Did the crips and bloods manage to organize in KC?
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 18, 2024, 12:39:37 AM
The Democratic mayor of KC, having solved the crime problem, chose to complain that the Republican Governor used a "dog whistle" by referring to the perps as "thugs." Gotta get those pronouns right, I guess.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Hawkmoon on February 18, 2024, 12:44:19 AM
The Democratic mayor of KC, having solved the crime problem, chose to complain that the Republican Governor used a "dog whistle" by referring to the perps as "thugs." Gotta get those pronouns right, I guess.

Yeah. "Miscreants" is SOOOO much more genteel.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 18, 2024, 01:15:22 AM
Yeah. "Miscreants" is SOOOO much more genteel.

"Justice impacted persons"
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 18, 2024, 08:17:43 AM
The Democratic mayor of KC, having solved the crime problem, chose to complain that the Republican Governor used a "dog whistle" by referring to the perps as "thugs." Gotta get those pronouns right, I guess.

And to add to the stupidity another dem blames the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act

Missouri Democrat Offers the Dumbest Take on Kansas City Shooting Yet
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2024/02/17/this-is-the-dumbest-take-on-kansas-city-shooting-yet-n1223864
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: 230RN on February 18, 2024, 05:08:58 PM
Gang violence by juveniles is not domestic terrorism extremism.

It's all pre-scripted.

Case A, say this

Case B, say that

Case C, say the other thing

In all cases, anything that goes bang is an assault rifle.  Be sure to repeat those words at all opportunities.


Yep, all scripted down to the last comma.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 18, 2024, 07:56:29 PM
Thing is, they think that they have a strategy, and they think that it is working... Every time, however, they throw something "legal" at Trump, his approval rating goes up. That isn't the "trumper faithful." That's NEW arrivals.
 
They're going to try to destroy the 2nd amendment in civil courts.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: 230RN on February 19, 2024, 01:50:06 PM
Facts don't matter.  Only repetition of the Agenda Points matters.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on February 19, 2024, 03:43:55 PM
Facts don't matter.  Only repetition of the Agenda Points matters.
For the leftist drones, that is true.  Not sure how well that works with others especially with alternative information sources. 

To make an Animal Farm reference, I tend to wonder if the smarter pigs retired and the sheep are running things now. 
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 19, 2024, 09:41:54 PM
Missouri Democrats are making a giant stink over Missouri Republicans fingering somedude who they had a picture of sitting with cops around. Turns out he was a middle-aged black guy detained, not arrested for public intoxication celebration... TV news spent about five minutes on him and his innocence, and the fact that they used some fictitious name (arabic) that keeps getting used online, and maybe 20 seconds, maybe, on two unnamed juvies who are allegedly still in custody.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Perd Hapley on February 19, 2024, 10:53:29 PM
Missouri Democrats are making a giant stink over Missouri Republicans fingering somedude who they had a picture of sitting with cops around. Turns out he was a middle-aged black guy detained, not arrested for public intoxication celebration... TV news spent about five minutes on him and his innocence, and the fact that they used some fictitious name (arabic) that keeps getting used online, and maybe 20 seconds, maybe, on two unnamed juvies who are allegedly still in custody.

I'm guessing that's the same guy I saw a photo of in corp media reporting of the shooting. But, sure, blame Republicans...
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 19, 2024, 11:48:02 PM
Heh - had to do a check engine scan on a customer car... Car reeking of ganga, of course... Shotgun passenger was sitting there, playing with a baby glock... Command voice emerged. "Put that in a holster or in the glove compartment or something!"
 
Damn, and they paid attention... In a loose holster, and into the glovebox...
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: 230RN on February 20, 2024, 10:34:54 AM
I'm guessing that's the same guy I saw a photo of in corp media reporting of the shooting. But, sure, blame Republicans...

Yep. As I said, facts don't matter.  Only repetition of the Agenda Points matters.

Repeat, repeat, repeat. If you think you personally can't be influenced by repetitive assertions, you don't know anything about advertising.  Or propaganda.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Ben on February 20, 2024, 11:01:32 AM
The comments are correct:

https://twitchy.com/samj/2024/02/20/parade-shooters-names-n2393119
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 20, 2024, 12:01:40 PM
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Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Angel Eyes on February 20, 2024, 01:56:42 PM
"Rules for thee, not for me."
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 20, 2024, 04:46:29 PM
Two adults charged

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Two adults have been charged with second-degree murder following the shooting at the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl parade last week.

Lyndell Mays, aged 22 or 23, and Dominic Miller, aged 18 or 19, are facing charges including murder in the second degree, armed criminal action and unlawful use of a weapon.

These two individuals are not the two juveniles that had been charged with gun-related offenses and resisting arrest last week.

Prosecutors allege that Mays pulled his gun first during an argument which resulted in others pulling firearms including Miller.

At a press conference on Tuesday, prosecutor Jean Peters Baker said Miller is believed to have fired the shot that killed local DJ Lisa Lopez-Galvan.

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Baker also said at the press conference that the Jackson County Prosecutors Office was 'not done yet' and that a number of other suspects who were involved in the shooting are being sought.

The two men have been hospitalized with injuries following the shooting and remain in hospital as of Tuesday, Peters Baker said.

So maybe the two juveniles didn't actually shoot anyone? Maybe?

Two adults charged with Kansas City parade shooting - but prosecutors STILL won't name juvenile gunmen already in custody
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13105917/Kansas-City-parade-shooting-suspects-charged.html
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 21, 2024, 07:32:13 AM
GoFundMe set up for one but has been taken down.

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The mother of a man charged with murder over the Kansas City Super Bowl parade shooting set has up a GoFundMe for him - as his sister insists he's not a monster.

Teneal Burnside set up the cash appeal for her alleged killer son Lyndell Mays, 23, complete with a photo of him seriously-ill in his hospital bed.

He was among those shot at the celebration on February 14 - and was blasted nine times. Prosecutors now say Mays was one of the two men to blame for the horrific bloodbath, although his unnamed sister insists he was just trying to protect her.


EXCLUSIVELyndell Mays is pictured for first time since being charged with murder over Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting, as it's revealed mother set up GOFUNDME for him
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13106691/Lyndell-Mays-kansas-super-bowl-gofundme.html
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: WLJ on February 21, 2024, 08:50:12 AM
But wait there's more

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Mays is accused of firing first. Miller is accused of firing afterward. An autopsy indicated the bullet that killed Lisa Lopez-Galvan came from “the firearm Miller acknowledged possessing and firing.”

The gun Miller possessed was a Taurus G3 9mm.
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2024/02/21/two-adults-now-charged-in-kansas-city-shooting-n1223901

Still haven't seen evidence the AR was ever fired

Two Adults Now Charged in Kansas City Shooting
https://bearingarms.com/tomknighton/2024/02/21/two-adults-now-charged-in-kansas-city-shooting-n1223901

Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: MillCreek on February 21, 2024, 09:02:03 AM
And people say Taurus semi-autos are unreliable.
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: Bogie on February 21, 2024, 12:44:24 PM
If KC is anything like the STL, there were a few dozen folks in the crowd with Man Purses with glocks and stendos... Or HiPoints... Or whatever... And a few fashionable messenger bags with short-barrel ARs... And likely some long guns. Gotta love those baggy pants...
 
I've actually told a customer at work "Dude, get a belt, get a holster, and something smaller."
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: MechAg94 on February 21, 2024, 01:44:06 PM
That reminds me that I want to get a FoldAR this year.   =)
Title: Re: KC Chiefs Super Bowl parade shooting
Post by: BobR on February 22, 2024, 08:45:38 PM
Can you give a sista a hand? My son, you know the one accused of murder in KC is in the hospital and we will need money for the bills, help a sista?

Some people's kids, sheese.

Thankfully someone had the sense to take it down, surprisingly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13110463/Dominic-Miller-Kansas-City-parade-shooter-GoFundMe.html

bob