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Title: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: MillCreek on January 25, 2019, 10:24:02 AM
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/the-hard-part-of-a-computer-science-major-can-be-getting-into-class/

Everyone apparently thinks the quick road to riches now is to be a computer science major.  Good luck finding a program with room to take you, however.
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 25, 2019, 10:49:18 AM
And... in a few years of jamming the pipeline with computer science majors there will be so many in the job market they will be a dime a dozen.
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: MechAg94 on January 25, 2019, 11:27:01 AM
And... in a few years of jamming the pipeline with computer science majors there will be so many in the job market they will be a dime a dozen.
But we need more H1B visa workers!

Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: Pb on January 26, 2019, 11:42:48 AM
But we need more H1B visa workers!



This.  I thought computer sci was a terrible field because you were easily replaced with immigrants, with the connivance of congress...   ???
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: MechAg94 on January 26, 2019, 12:44:02 PM
Computer Science was supposed to be big in the early 90's when I started college (at least students were told that).  I guess it was okay for a while during the dot.com boom, but it seems to me it was never a great way to go.

I recall people not wanting to do petroleum engineering at the time, but in hindsight, that was probably a good choice and has been in demand. 
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: Northwoods on January 26, 2019, 01:17:22 PM
^^^ Have you seen the compensation rates for Google, Amazon, Facebook, et al?  Not hard to make $100k fresh out of school and $200k with 3-5 years experience.  Good ones can top $350k by 30.  And that includes H1B workers.  Granted you'll have to live in SF or Seattle for those payscales but oh well.
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: MillCreek on January 26, 2019, 02:30:01 PM
^^^I am aware of those payscales and I think of how I compare, with 35 years of experience and a legal, graduate science and business degree.  And some kid fresh out of school with a BS beats my salary by 50%.
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 26, 2019, 04:38:37 PM
^^^I am aware of those payscales and I think of how I compare, with 35 years of experience and a legal, graduate science and business degree.  And some kid fresh out of school with a BS beats my salary by 50%.


Sure but you didn't have to sell your soul.
How does even $350K in SF compare to $150K in a normal part of the country? Will that even allow someone to buy a nice house within 50 miles of where they work?
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: cordex on January 26, 2019, 06:58:38 PM
Sure but you didn't have to sell your soul.
Dude has a law degree. He doesn’t sell souls, he buys them.
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: RoadKingLarry on January 26, 2019, 07:38:44 PM
crap, missed that.
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: Pb on January 28, 2019, 09:03:11 AM
Apparently about 70% of tech workers in Silicon Valley are foreign born. 
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: Fly320s on January 28, 2019, 11:33:04 AM
And... in a few years of jamming the pipeline with computer science majors there will be so many in the job market they will be a dime a dozen.

Coal mines are hiring.
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: cordex on January 28, 2019, 11:39:40 AM
Coal mines are hiring.
“Learn to cough!”
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: Fly320s on January 28, 2019, 11:43:27 AM

Sure but you didn't have to sell your soul.
How does even $350K in SF compare to $150K in a normal part of the country? Will that even allow someone to buy a nice house within 50 miles of where they work?

1 bedroom 850 sqft condo near downtown San Francisco for only $1.2m.  Comes with one parking space!

Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: MechAg94 on January 28, 2019, 02:14:32 PM
1 bedroom 850 sqft condo near downtown San Francisco for only $1.2m.  Comes with one parking space!


I was going to be outraged and then I saw the parking space was included.   
Title: Re: The cut throat world of being a computer science major
Post by: Cliffh on January 28, 2019, 10:27:21 PM
Son2 & family were paying >$3,000/mo for a 2 bedroom apartment in San Mateo, (just south of SF), which was going to increase at renewal time.  They moved to Washington last week.