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Title: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RoadKingLarry on October 30, 2021, 01:11:30 PM
Big Bellwether election coming up in Virginia Tuesday. Democrat McAuliffe V. Republican Youngkin. Personally I don't think any republican would have a chance in a democrat controlled state anymore.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ron on October 30, 2021, 01:27:44 PM
If Youngkin wins he is immediately suspect as controlled opposition.

Virginia is practically in the belly of the beast system. That was a huge plum the beast system won't want to give up.

Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on October 30, 2021, 02:17:01 PM
I think there is a fair chance.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Jim147 on October 30, 2021, 06:02:05 PM
Mcauffle is pulling out all the stops. He knows he should lose but will he? There will be a legal battle no mater how it goes.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on October 30, 2021, 06:09:46 PM
I think there is a fair chance.

I'm thinking so too. I cannot recall the last campaign I saw so poorly run, supporting an arrogant moron of a candidate. He even attacks the MSM for not supporting him, and I honestly think people are sick of hearing "Trump" mentioned 27 times in every five minute speech. Not to mention the underhanded tricks he has pulled against his opponent which also were poorly enough done to be found out.

The whole " No Trump" gameplan plus the dirty tricks may backfire on him in a way that has even some dems voting for "not McAuliffe".
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on October 30, 2021, 06:18:34 PM
McAuffle by a landslide with 160% of the vote after all the "lost" ballets are finally counted two weeks later.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: HankB on October 30, 2021, 06:20:16 PM
Supposedly left leaning and right leaning parents are united in opposition to McAuliffe who has repeatedly said parents should have NO say in what their children are being taught.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Angel Eyes on October 30, 2021, 06:22:47 PM
I'm thinking so too. I cannot recall the last campaign I saw so poorly run, supporting an arrogant moron of a candidate.

2020?
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Jim147 on October 30, 2021, 10:14:00 PM
2020?


Yeah, who is the president?
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Bogie on October 30, 2021, 10:16:16 PM
And... Who is disturbed that they supported that mess?
 
The True Believers are still, thankfully, hopefully... Outnumbered.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on October 31, 2021, 02:41:42 AM
Not everything is a conspiracy. Virginia is not near as blue as the media makes out. This last term was the first time in a long time that the Ds had the gov and both chambers in the legislature. Why would they throw away a chance of more of the same to install “controlled opposition?” The Dem machine has turned out in force for Terry. A loss at this point is quite humiliating.

More interesting is will the legislature flip? I surely hope so. The attorney general is garbage as garbage can be but will probably hold on for re-election unless this backlash is huge. I most worry because there have been non stop radio ads telling us how fair and secure our elections are. Getting that Joe Isuzu feel.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on October 31, 2021, 11:01:52 AM
No way Youngkin wins.  Democrats still control the election apparatus in that state.

ETA:

Fox News:  Small crowd greets McAuliffe at campaign stop as his GOP opponent Youngkin leads in polls (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/small-crowd-greets-mcauliffe-at-campaign-stop-as-opponent-leads-in-polls)
Of note in this story is McAuliffe's statement, "I’m happy to report we are substantially leading in the early vote."  I wonder where and how he got this information?

A couple of other stories of interest:
Fox News:  Virginia's deadlocked governor's race may not be decided on Election Day (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/virginia-governors-race-results-after-election-day?cmpid=prn_newsstand)

Fox News: Democrats working to build early voting lead in Virginia; can the GOP close the gap on Election Day? (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democrats-working-build-early-voting-lead-virginia-can-gop-close-gap-election-day)
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Unisaw on October 31, 2021, 06:29:06 PM
I’m hopeful because the Dems seem to be in a panic.  But, I’m not holding my breath.  My wife and I aren’t voting early.  Our thinking is that the less Dems know going into Election Day, the harder it will be for them to rig the results.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Boomhauer on October 31, 2021, 07:14:09 PM
So what will they use…evicting observers from the count room while counters wearing McAuliffe hats and masks make sure the vote is counted “properly”’ blocking the windows with cardboard, arranging for a non existent water leak to stop counting for the last county that hasn’t reported in yet, boxes of “cured” ballots found, or my personal favorite, the USPS delivering boxes of ballots they located? Or all of the above? After all it’s what free, fair, honest elections all do.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on October 31, 2021, 08:55:18 PM
So what will they use…evicting observers from the count room while counters wearing McAuliffe hats and masks make sure the vote is counted “properly”’ blocking the windows with cardboard, arranging for a non existent water leak to stop counting for the last county that hasn’t reported in yet, boxes of “cured” ballots found, or my personal favorite, the USPS delivering boxes of ballots they located? Or all of the above? After all it’s what free, fair, honest elections all do.

Cue the magic station wagon of ballots

(https://i.gifer.com/72xW.gif)
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Jim147 on October 31, 2021, 09:47:51 PM
They already have it set that mail in ballots can arrive like three days late. That does give them time.

It is going to be so close the dems are in panic mode.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 01, 2021, 07:44:45 AM
I’m hopeful because the Dems seem to be in a panic.  But, I’m not holding my breath.  My wife and I aren’t voting early.  Our thinking is that the less Dems know going into Election Day, the harder it will be for them to rig the results.

Judging by what I'm seeing in my inbox, the Dems don't seem to be in a panic, they're absolutely losing their *expletive deleted*it they're so scared this election is going to go south for them.

MSN is also saying the Dems are nervous as hell.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-scary-are-the-new-virginia-polls-for-democrats/ar-AAQ6eiS?ocid=uxbndlbing
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 01, 2021, 07:54:34 AM
A message yesterday from Virginia Dems or their supporters...

"Michael: WE ARE FREAKING OUT.

The Virginia elections are on Tuesday -- in THREE DAYS.

This race is TIED, and we aren’t getting NEARLY the resources we need to make sure we pull ahead.

We thought you’d be just as concerned about this as we are. A Donald Trump acolyte is tied in the race for the Governor’s office.

Trump cronies are scrambling to flip the House of Delegates."


I have about 30 others of a similar nature in my inbox (well, spam box, but same thing).

All are screaming about how the progressive agenda is in danger in Virginia because TRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP!!!

I'm seeing more and more speculation that Dems are losing tenancy with voters this election simply because they're overplaying the Trump card now that Trump's no longer in power, while Youngkin has latched on to a VERY potent issue and has turned McAuliffe's parents and schools words into a weapon against him.

There's apparently been a pretty huge shift towards Youngkin among parents with kids currently in school.

I sincerely doubt that any election result will make me as viscerally happy as the 2016 election... not because Trump won, but because Hillary lost and it was so delightful to see so many of her supporters inconsolable.

Yeah. I hate Dems that... *expletive deleted*ing... much.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 01, 2021, 10:22:12 AM
Political theatre and posturing from the dems.
Those in control simply want the optics of a close race so they can pull off their electoral fraud and then reassure the base that "they" managed to save the day for the communists  progressives liberals libtards.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 01, 2021, 10:41:45 AM
Political theatre and posturing from the dems.
Those in control simply want the optics of a close race so they can pull off their electoral fraud and then reassure the base that "they" managed to save the day for the communists  progressives liberals libtards.

This in a nutshell.  Nicely summed up.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DittoHead on November 01, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
I honestly think people are sick of hearing "Trump" mentioned 27 times in every five minute speech.

It also works a lot better when actually running against Trump. McAuliffe hasn't offered much beyond anti-trump and that's not going to do much for turnout when Trump isn't on the ballot. The polls look good for Youngkin, especially the direction they've been trending so that's where I'd put my money if I had to make a prediction.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: HankB on November 01, 2021, 04:45:48 PM
It also works a lot better when actually running against Trump. McAuliffe hasn't offered much beyond anti-trump and that's not going to do much for turnout when Trump isn't on the ballot. The polls look good for Youngkin, especially the direction they've been trending so that's where I'd put my money if I had to make a prediction.
It doesn't matter who votes or how they vote, what matters is who counts the ballots.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Jim147 on November 01, 2021, 05:27:52 PM
Since mail in ballots can arrive three days late they have plenty of time to make sure the vote is right.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: bedlamite on November 01, 2021, 05:37:08 PM
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Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 01, 2021, 06:22:52 PM
I hope that is it for the Lincoln project. Anyone with eyes can see exactly who they are now. They are not noble anti trump republicans. In addition to this stunt which ought to be considered an in kind contribution to McAuliffe they have given his campaign 600k. Quisling would have more honor.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DittoHead on November 01, 2021, 07:29:43 PM
It doesn't matter who votes or how they vote, what matters is who counts the ballots.

A lot of people have been saying that kind of thing lately, but thankfully most of them they still vote anyway. That leads me to suspect they don't entirely believe it themselves but it's an easy way to deal with difficult electoral losses. Doesn't matter much to me, I'm going to keep voting (and helping count the votes).
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 02, 2021, 08:09:20 AM
I voterized this morning.

Virginia still requires state-issued IDs to vote, apparently.

My God I feel disenfranchised!

Looking at the list here: https://www.elections.virginia.gov/media/formswarehouse/voter-id/outreach-materials/documents/Voter-Identification-Chart-Rev-4-28-21.pdf

Hum... I think next year I may use my Virginia-issued CCW as my voter ID.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 02, 2021, 08:18:02 AM
Well, McAuliffe seems to be doubling down on his "parents are stupid" theme during his election day final push. Randi Weingarten.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcauliffes-decision-to-have-weingarten-speak-at-rally-mocked-by-republicans
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Unisaw on November 02, 2021, 09:39:21 AM
My wife and I just voted. Despite rain, the parking lot was so full that we had to wait for someone to leave.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 02, 2021, 09:51:54 AM
Got an e-mail last night from "Terry."

Guess who that might be?

It was nothing but a rage-a-holic e-mail screaming and crying about Trump doing a virtual rally in Virginia ending with a plea for $500,000 dollars to help fight it!

Got to admit, it made me laugh... HARD.

It's looking more and more that Virginia Dem's attempts to terrorize the state with the spectre of Trump is turning out to be largely a failure.

But Youngkin is scoring hard hits with his using McAuliffe's comments on parents and education.

This is going to be a fun evening.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 02, 2021, 10:17:16 AM
Well, McAuliffe seems to be doubling down on his "parents are stupid" theme during his election day final push. Randi Weingarten.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcauliffes-decision-to-have-weingarten-speak-at-rally-mocked-by-republicans

I remember a time when the AFT was considered to be a rational alternative to the NEA hard left leanings.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Unisaw on November 02, 2021, 10:21:37 AM
Our voting district had a school board seat on the ballot with only the incumbent listed on the ballot.  However, the incumbent is Chairman of the School Board, which has gone full-in on racial/sexual identity, etc.  A write-in candidate jumped into the race in August on a platform of making sure parents have a voice in what their children are taught.  The write-in candidate seems to be fairly popular and it will be very interesting to see if the current School Board Chairman is voted out.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 02, 2021, 10:34:18 AM
I feel sorry for my daughter and her family as they live in VA and have to put up with all the crap going on there.  It's not going to change any time soon, especially if McAuliffe is re-elected as I suspect he will be.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DittoHead on November 02, 2021, 04:29:49 PM
Quote from: https://wjla.com/news/elections/early-absentee-voting-results-will-now-be-released-first-on-va-election-day-heres-why
"Right after 7 p.m. we are going to push a button, and it's going to produce a report with all those results in it, and that's a change from past practice. We're going to release the early votes and the absentee votes first thing," said Konopasek.

"So we're not going to have that big drop at 11 or 10 p.m. of all kind of votes. Those are going to be early, everyone's going to know what those counts are, and then we'll build on that with results from the precincts," he said.

During last year's presidential election, it was late in the evening when Fairfax County released the results from its early and absentee ballots. Those results essentially gave President Biden the votes he needed to win the state, after Donald Trump appeared to be leading in Virginia earlier in the night.

"I wasn't here last year, but I understand there was a lot of confusion and a lot of concern about late arriving, hundreds of thousands of votes that were reported," said Konopasek. "So in an effort for transparency and to increase voters' confidence, we have retooled our processes and timelines.

That seems like a better way to do it.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 02, 2021, 06:02:15 PM
Quote
Quote from: https://wjla.com/news/elections/early-absentee-voting-results-will-now-be-released-first-on-va-election-day-heres-why
"Right after 7 p.m. we are going to push a button, and it's going to produce a report with all those results in it, and that's a change from past practice. We're going to release the early votes and the absentee votes first thing," said Konopasek.

"So we're not going to have that big drop at 11 or 10 p.m. of all kind of votes. Those are going to be early, everyone's going to know what those counts are, and then we'll build on that with results from the precincts," he said.

During last year's presidential election, it was late in the evening when Fairfax County released the results from its early and absentee ballots. Those results essentially gave President Biden the votes he needed to win the state, after Donald Trump appeared to be leading in Virginia earlier in the night.

"I wasn't here last year, but I understand there was a lot of confusion and a lot of concern about late arriving, hundreds of thousands of votes that were reported," said Konopasek. "So in an effort for transparency and to increase voters' confidence, we have retooled our processes and timelines.

That seems like a better way to do it.
VA election officials warned last week that counting will likely go late into the week with results not known until Friday.  They are setting things up for fraud.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 02, 2021, 09:10:24 PM
Decision Desk calls it for Youngkin.

https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1455695493284171776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1455695493284171776%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fbrettt-3136%2F2021%2F11%2F02%2Fdecision-desk-hq-calls-virginia-for-glenn-youngkin%2F

In the meantime, for some reason the McAuliffe campaign, rather than the elections officials, have announced things will be delayed because "votes are being rescanned".

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/02/mccauliffes-campaign-says-fairfax-county-results-could-be-delayed-as-early-votes-need-to-be-rescanned/
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 02, 2021, 09:18:13 PM
Cue the "lost" ballots
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Northwoods on November 02, 2021, 09:36:22 PM
74% in and Youngkin up by 8.5 points according to NPR’s live results.  But Fairfax county, by far the largest, is also the slowest at reporting and currently is a D+32 margin.

Fat lady ain’t singing yet by any stretch of her yoga pants.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 02, 2021, 09:49:45 PM
I stand by my prediction that McAuliffe will be the next governor of VA.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Northwoods on November 02, 2021, 10:28:33 PM
4% lead for Youngkin with 88% reporting.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 02, 2021, 10:38:04 PM
Fairfax county is rescanning all early voting ballots.  The claim is that there was an out of date or defective memory card in the machine used to scan those ballots.  GOP lawyers signed off on the rescan being done.
Over 100,000 ballots to rescan, and Youngkin's lead is about 90,000 votes at this point with about 10% of the precincts remaining, plus those early voting ballots in Fairfax county that run heavily Democrat.
I'm going to say McAuliffe will be declared the winner by a very narrow margin by morning.

edit:

Youngkin's lead has narrowed to a smidge over 3%, with a 94,457 margin.  Twelve percent of precincts remain to be counted, including I assume the early votes out of heavily Democrat Fairfax county.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Northwoods on November 02, 2021, 10:43:38 PM
I'm going to say McAuliffe will be declared the winner by a very narrow margin by morning.


If not they’ll get the count close enough for a recount.  That’ll give them enough time to “find” or just manufacture enough votes for a victory.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 02, 2021, 11:06:10 PM
I know you guys like guns and not having your children raped in bathrooms, but would you still vote red knowing that this is making McAuliffe's family and employees cry?

(http://McAuliffe_Cry.PNG)
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 03, 2021, 12:25:40 AM
With 95% of precincts reporting, Youngkin still has a roughly 90k vote lead.  His margin is slightly below 3%.  McAuliffe reportedly did not show up at his election night party, but he still has not conceded.
Maybe I am going to dine on crow.  Hopefully I will.  However, I'm still going to wait an see what happens overnight with the Fairfax county recount.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Northwoods on November 03, 2021, 12:30:10 AM
If he loses it will be hubris making him think extensive cheating wasn’t necessary, like HRC in 2016.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 03, 2021, 12:47:51 AM
Still can't be sure but politico and NPR, those right wing hate machines, called it.  Look at the locality splits, there are a couple of R +70 counties. Mine is last on the list but R +50. And I don't even like republicans. This isnt just about McAuliffe, or Brandon, and definitely not trump. Rural Virginia is really tired of getting screwed in state politics by the cities. Even in the rural black counties Terry didn't have a waltz, even the ones he won. Just cities. I am sure we will get screwed plenty more by the cities. Which is why I like my plan. Sure, DC statehood but original district boundaries.  [popcorn]
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Bogie on November 03, 2021, 12:53:17 AM
I'm guessing that the folks most aligned toward cheating stood back, looked at the rest of the country, and said "You know... we really don't want to trigger Civil War II just yet..."
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 03, 2021, 01:11:26 AM
Regardless of if the watermain breaks, etc. This state went Biden +10 a year ago. Even a .2% victory by McAuliffe won't hide that. Either way, y'all screwed. I can't but help think this accelerates Biden's replacement, the unfortunate mysterious totally natural causes death of Supreme Breyer, etc. They know they can't wait until after midterms now.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 03, 2021, 01:24:16 AM
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Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 01:36:53 AM
By my math in order for McAuliffe to win he would need 100% of the remaining vote and almost twice as many remaining votes as there are expected to be. That race is truly over.

Virginia Republicans gained a few house seats, still waiting to find out just how many. They nearly flipped the house though. A tie looks likely.

We managed to vote down a property tax increase to fund the schools in my town, this is two years after the last increase passed.

NJ swung way more right than anyone expected. 50.6 to 48.7 with 83% reported. Likely will end in a D win but it will be close.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Northwoods on November 03, 2021, 01:46:38 AM
Well, now the D’s have a decent handle on the amount of fraud they need to plan for in next years election.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 01:54:15 AM
NJ Rs did really well with their down ballet races, lots of progress made.

The NJ gov race just nearly tied 49.70-R to 49.56-D only a 3k difference. 86% reporting.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 03, 2021, 07:33:22 AM
As of this morning, Youngkin has been declared the winner, and the Republican candidates have solid leads (but still too close to call) in the Lt. Gov. and Attorney General's races. Even better, the Republicans look poised to take outright control of the Virginia House of Delegates by gaining 6 seats.

Six months ago pundits were concentrating more on by how huge a margin the now and forevermore solidly blue Old Dominion would bury the Republicans.

Saying there are a lot of very, very shocked people in Virginia right now is an understatement.

Terry McAuliffe ran one of the most tone-deaf dog whistle campaigns I've ever seen. He spent months trying to tie Youngkin to Donald Trump (even going so far as to outright LIE on Tuesday and say that Trump and Youngkin were campaigning together). Well, apparently he was the only one who couldn't see that there were a lot of other topics that were a lot more important to Virginians than the Donald.

McAuliffe also handed Youngkin an incredibly effective hammer in his debate comment in which he said Virginia parents should have no say over what's taught in schools. Incredible political gaffe, one that Youngkin used over and over and one that absolutely resonated with a lot of Virginia parents.

Even better, McAuliffe later ran an ad basically crying how Youngkin was taking his words out of context... and Youngkin turned THAT into an incredibly effective ad to again hammer home the education issue.

The key to Youngkin's victory wasn't just holding previous Republican strongholds, he also outperformed expectations (sometimes by a pretty wide margin) in both red and blue areas of the state. In some of the southwest counties in Virginia he pulled in close to 90% of the total vote, in more than a couple of counties getting an increase of upwards 10% over the 2017 election.

In Fairfax County Youngkin picked up over 3% more votes than the Republican did in 2017, in Loudoun County 5% more. That may not seem like much, but in a tight race swings like that can be huge cumulatively. He also outperformed in other traditionally blue strongholds like Richmond and Norfolk.

Virginia voter surveys appear to show that state voter's concerns are pretty much at 180 degree odds with the national party's activities. Climate change and the like? Apparently dead last for Virginia votes.

Skyrocketing inflation, skyrocketing oil and gasoline prices, skyrocketing food prices? All near the top of Virginia voter concern.

I think as of right now Democrats, both in Virginia and nationally, are pretty stunned, but I'm really hoping that they're too tone deaf and too far down the Socialist path to pull back in time to realign their messages for next year's midterms. I can't wait to hear the explanations coming out of Pelosi, Schumer, and the Squad trying to explain away why Virginia has nothing to do with national concerns...

It's going to be a *expletive deleted*ing hoot.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2021, 07:43:11 AM
Congrats to the APS Virginians!

From what I understand, more conservatives than ever in history tuned into MSNBC because they apparently lost their *expletive deleted*it there. I can't wait for the compilation video!  :laugh:

Also, Kamala Harris called it:

Quote
Back when she was campaigning for former Gov. Terry McAuliffe, Harris said, "What happens in Virginia will, in large part, determine what happens in 2022, 2024, and on."
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 03, 2021, 07:45:31 AM
They cannot pull back. The dems are in a hostage situation and the progressives have the suicide vests. This is trumps eternal gift. I have said since 2016 he was going to destroy both parties and he has. I think the republicans are closer to health than the Ds who are still staggering around trying to die. Virginia will go stupid blue again soon. Hopefully not for Youngkins midterm, but soon.

Turnout in my area was okay at 253 votes for governor but when I voted trump the first time I was voter 307 with an hour left on the polls.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 03, 2021, 07:50:10 AM
"From what I understand, more conservatives than ever in history tuned into MSNBC because they apparently lost their *expletive deleted*it there."

I tuned into MSNBC at various times last night, including for the opening of the Mad Cow show... You could see that glitch in her eye, the same one she had in 2016...

She had some guests on last night who were seemingly hard-core left wingers and who were attacking the national party structure. I watched, laughed a bit, and then went to bed. It was glorious!
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 08:04:42 AM
In a sane world with someone openly anti-parent rights as McAuliffe appears to be it should be 99% to 0.0001%.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2021, 08:08:02 AM
I just learned this fact:

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/11/03/meet-winsome-sears-the-bada-conservative-black-woman-elected-as-lt-gov-in-virginia/

This should be covered 24/7 for the next month by the MSM, because isn't this an even bigger diversity win than Harris? I mean, the qualifications and work history alone are 10X superior to Harris'. This woman should be all over the teevee as a minority success.

And I'm not saying this sarcastically. I wasn't even aware of her, but here is a woman who not only served her country, but her community. She appears to have a completely selfless history - pretty much the opposite of Harris (and say, Stacy Abrams). So of course information about her is suppressed by the MSM.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: MillCreek on November 03, 2021, 08:26:17 AM
Since the Republican won, this has to be the most fair election in history.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 08:36:29 AM
Cue the Ds and the MSM running wild with stories this could only have happened because blacks were prevented from voting by hooded men wearing MAGA hats, racist voting laws, and Russian hacking. I wish I was joking.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: HankB on November 03, 2021, 08:54:16 AM
Since the Republican won, this has to be the most fair election in history.
No, it's just surprising that he won by enough to beat the margin of fraud coming out of Richmond.

As I write this, the R is ahead of the incumbent D in New Jersey by 0.05% with around 80% of the votes counted . . . we'll see what happens there.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 03, 2021, 08:56:26 AM
Yes, I too am eagerly waiting to be told how the rednecks voting for a black immigrant woman was really the product of a xenophobic and systemically racist patriarchy.  [popcorn] I figure by noon today they ought to have that copy on the wire.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 08:59:03 AM
No, it's just surprising that he won by enough to beat the margin of fraud coming out of Richmond.

As I write this, the R is ahead of the incumbent D in New Jersey by 0.05% with around 80% of the votes counted . . . we'll see what happens there.

Since the D heavy urban areas are usually the slowest and usually the last to report fully I would say there's a 99.9% chance it's going to the Ds
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DittoHead on November 03, 2021, 09:05:48 AM
Quote from: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/11/03/youngkin-virginia-voters-lessons-trump-democrats-518716
Democrats are also learning that without Trump himself on the ballot, they had merely rented some of the suburban votes that had shifted their way in the last two cycles. Running against Trump is apparently not a winning formula when the former president is merely a spectral presence.
This is going to show even more in the midterms. Trump was very polarizing, he energized his base but turned off a lot of independents and suburban voters that are happy to vote for other Republicans. Once you combine getting those voters back, a mess of an economy, favorable district maps, an unpopular president, and Dems usual turnout disadvantage in midterms, 2022 is going to be a very bad election for Democrats.

I also think they're screwed on the giant spending bill. It's been months of sausage making and infighting so at this point even if it does pass, progressives are not going to be enthusiastic about it. If it doesn't pass they will punish the Dems for their failure, if it does pass then conservatives have another unpopular item to campaign against. Politically it's a lose-lose situation for them at this point.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 09:08:12 AM
Yes, I too am eagerly waiting to be told how the rednecks voting for a black immigrant woman was really the product of a xenophobic and systemically racist patriarchy.  [popcorn] I figure by noon today they ought to have that copy on the wire.

They'll declare her an "Uncle Tom" thus she doesn't actually count as black. They've done it with pretty much every black R in the past.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2021, 09:16:50 AM
This is going to show even more in the midterms. Trump was very polarizing, he energized his base but turned off a lot of independents and suburban voters that are happy to vote for other Republicans. Once you combine getting those voters back, a mess of an economy, favorable district maps, an unpopular president, and Dems usual turnout disadvantage in midterms, 2022 is going to be a very bad election for Democrats.

I'm curious if progressive big tech are kicking themselves for censoring Trump. If Trump still had his Twitter account, I have to wonder if he wouldn't have riled up more dems in VA to get out and vote.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2021, 09:18:46 AM
Also, I think it would be awesome if Youngkin threw in a big thank you to the Lincoln Project for helping get him elected.  :rofl:
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 03, 2021, 11:03:29 AM
Thanks for some good news, Virginia. Also congratulations on electing a governor that's not into blackface.  :lol:
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 11:31:04 AM
Interesting trend. I wonder how much of this is Trump's fault vs Biden's fault.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 11:33:34 AM
Keep playing the race card please.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 03, 2021, 11:39:28 AM
And I would expect nothing less from MSNBC than a headline article like this...

Jesus Christ...

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/glenn-youngkin-wins-virginia-governor-race-rcna4316

Youngkin didn't start to gain measurably on McAuliffe until Terry the Commie handed him a hammering point in the September debate. Nothing about McAulliffe running one of the most tone deaf campaigns in history. Nothing about reaction to Sniffy Joe's failing presidency.

Nope, the real reason Democrats lost is because white people are racist.

And if you look at the rest of the articles on MSNBC's front page right now, Donald Trump is still living VERY firmly, rent free, in the minds of the Liberal Left pundits while it's obvious from yesterday's elections that much of the rank and file left has moved on from that.

Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 12:06:39 PM
Quote from: msnbc article
The Youngkin campaign discovered that this contingent of angry, willfully ignorant white people was the key ingredient needed to elect a GOP governor in Virginia for the first time since 2009. We can expect more Republicans to try the same gambit as we inch closer to next year’s consequential midterm elections.
I hope the democrats double down on that theory and see how much it helps them.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2021, 12:12:44 PM
A moron speaks:

Quote
Bill Kristol
@BillKristol
What if tonight's returns suggest Democrats merely rented the college-educated suburbs, while Republicans now own the rural and non-college white vote? That would be...worrisome.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: HankB on November 03, 2021, 12:23:07 PM
They'll declare her an "Uncle Tom" thus she doesn't actually count as black. They've done it with pretty much every black R in the past.
Maybe "Aunt Jemima" . . . or if they're afraid of misgendering, they'll bring back the term Oreo Cookie. Or what they said about Larry Elder in CA, "The Black face of White racism."
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 12:35:01 PM
Maybe "Aunt Jemima" . . . or if they're afraid of misgendering, they'll bring back the term Oreo Cookie. Or what they said about Larry Elder in CA, "The Black face of White racism."

Anything to discredit her "blackness"

Really really sad part of all that is that to be black in their minds you must obediently vote for modern new and improved version of the old south democrat slave masters.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 03, 2021, 01:07:31 PM
WTOP, the news radio station in Washington, DC, is declaring Winsom Sears as the new Lt. Governor of Virginia!
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 03, 2021, 01:09:43 PM
And this, on Fox, is really interesting...

Basically the far left of the Democratic Party is absolutely ripping the party to shreds...

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/virginia-governor-election-results-progressives-mcauliffe



"A coalition of progressive groups issued a scathing reaction to Terry McAuliffe’s election loss in Virginia, blasting Democrats for running an "uninspired" campaign that failed to address issues voters really care about. "

WHAT? I thought voters cared about McAuliffe trying his very hardest to sew Trump and Youngkin together! That's what they supposedly cared most about!

What a *expletive deleted*ing joke.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2021, 01:12:19 PM
Google translate was of no help:

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Cher
@cher
·
15h
HELD MY TONGUE,LONG ENOUGH,BUT FK IT‼️DO DEMS NEED A🏠2 FALL ON THER SISTERS,🐝4 THEY C WHATS COMING⁉️GUESS
“🇺🇸TERRORISTS”YELLING HANG PENCE,KILL PELOSI, ISNT ENOUGH.IF GOP TAKE POWER IT’LL🐝 “TOTAL POWER”.ITS “WHITE’S”ONLY CLUB,& BLM,LGBT,JEWS,ASIANS,MINORITIES,R IN🇩🇪STYLE PERIL
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: BobR on November 03, 2021, 01:21:12 PM
Google translate was of no help:

Looked like something a 6 year old who just discovered symbols can be letters and words would post. Not to mention some who may still have DJT living in her head. :) ;)

bob
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 01:29:04 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/mcauliffe-ill-be-back-and-ill-get-your-children-if-its-the-last-thing-i-do
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 03, 2021, 01:31:46 PM
In Cher's defense, remember the last time Republicans were in power, just a couple of years ago? Record numbers of non-whites had jobs! A homosexual man even got a job as a Cabinet Secretary! It was awful.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 03, 2021, 01:46:59 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/mcauliffe-ill-be-back-and-ill-get-your-children-if-its-the-last-thing-i-do

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: lee n. field on November 03, 2021, 01:54:31 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/mcauliffe-ill-be-back-and-ill-get-your-children-if-its-the-last-thing-i-do

https://youtu.be/O9Rhdwqjc1k?t=5 (https://youtu.be/O9Rhdwqjc1k?t=5)

"We'll be here waiting for you..."
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Boomhauer on November 03, 2021, 02:02:30 PM
Google translate was of no help:


The assburgers is strong with that one
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 02:14:07 PM
Some aren't taking it well


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/03/actor-bradley-whitford-says-the-gops-complete-and-utter-bullsht-about-crt-stems-from-the-fact-that-they-lost-the-civil-fcking-war/
(https://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screen-Shot-2021-11-03-at-10.12.06-AM-620x302.png)

About that......

Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DittoHead on November 03, 2021, 02:34:57 PM
Also, I think it would be awesome if Youngkin threw in a big thank you to the Lincoln Project for helping get him elected.  :rofl:

The Intercept has some interesting reading on that.
https://theintercept.com/2021/11/03/lincoln-project-charlottesville-glenn-youngkin/
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 03, 2021, 02:35:20 PM
And this, on Fox, is really interesting...

Basically the far left of the Democratic Party is absolutely ripping the party to shreds...

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/5b/22/b45b221cee36acdf56537b5ed3ff0ddb.jpg)
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: MechAg94 on November 03, 2021, 03:04:42 PM
Some aren't taking it well


https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/03/actor-bradley-whitford-says-the-gops-complete-and-utter-bullsht-about-crt-stems-from-the-fact-that-they-lost-the-civil-fcking-war/
(https://twitchy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Screen-Shot-2021-11-03-at-10.12.06-AM-620x302.png)

About that......

 :laugh: :rofl:
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 03, 2021, 03:50:26 PM
Interesting: While many of us are speculating that the McAuliffe side overdid the Trump stuff and drove their voters away, others are saying he lost because he didn't mention Trump enough.


https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/11/03/beyond-parody-lincoln-project-has-a-very-bizarre-takeaway-for-why-youngkin-defeated-mcauliffe-in-virginia/
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: DustinD on November 03, 2021, 04:19:05 PM
https://babylonbee.com/news/tiki-torch-wielding-democrats-condemning-election-of-black-lt-governor-starting-to-wonder-if-theyre-on-wrong-side-of-history
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Bogie on November 03, 2021, 04:34:22 PM
I'm mostly just wondering if they're going to go full retard, and still try to steal it... There are a LOT of folks in the country who are just a short stage away from pitchforks, and... well, not torches...
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 03, 2021, 04:42:38 PM
The Intercept has some interesting reading on that.
https://theintercept.com/2021/11/03/lincoln-project-charlottesville-glenn-youngkin/

Anyone else notice that the writer seems to find the idea of a female white supremacist improbable?  Weird. A true believer in intersectionality, I guess.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 04:49:17 PM
Anyone else notice that the writer seems to find the idea of a female white supremacist improbable?  Weird. A true believer in intersectionality, I guess.

Thinking that a woman could ever be the equal of a man is, well sexist
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 03, 2021, 05:10:55 PM
Interesting: While many of us are speculating that the McAuliffe side overdid the Trump stuff and drove their voters away, others are saying he lost because he didn't mention Trump enough.


https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2021/11/03/beyond-parody-lincoln-project-has-a-very-bizarre-takeaway-for-why-youngkin-defeated-mcauliffe-in-virginia/

In other words, this election loss does NOT mean their business model is finished. Every 2022 campaign should hire them to perform the same TDS antics, only more so.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 06:45:47 PM
I like her

‘I’d go in a heartbeat’: Winsome Sears dares MSNBC racebaiter Joy Reid to invite her on her show — ‘if she’s woman enough to do that’ [video]
https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/03/id-go-in-a-heartbeat-winsome-sears-dares-msnbc-racebaiter-joy-reid-to-invite-her-on-her-show-if-shes-woman-enough-to-do-that-video/
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 03, 2021, 07:49:26 PM
Republicans also flipped VA's House of Delegates:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/republicans-gain-stunning-2021-election-victories-as-democrats-reel_4084888.html

Quote
Republicans also regained a narrow 51–49 majority in the Virginia House of Delegates and flipped seven seats from Democrats in the process.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 03, 2021, 08:38:13 PM
It's all about race

Hot take: White women vote to protect their white sons, and that’s it
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/03/hot-take-white-women-vote-to-protect-their-white-sons-and-thats-it/

Another hot take: When they say Virginia was a win for ‘parents,’ they aren’t talking about black parents
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/03/another-hot-take-when-they-say-virginia-was-a-win-for-parents-they-arent-talking-about-black-parents/
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: AmbulanceDriver on November 03, 2021, 09:20:09 PM
I was floored when I read that McAuliffe conceded.... But then my inner cynic kicked in... They know that to kick off the fraud machine for a governor's race, with this much scrutiny, risks exposure for not enough reward.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 03, 2021, 09:26:09 PM
Why would whites be worried about their sons? Don't white dudez got all the privlidge?
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: lee n. field on November 03, 2021, 10:37:31 PM
It's all about race

Hot take: White women vote to protect their white sons, and that’s it
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/11/03/hot-take-white-women-vote-to-protect-their-white-sons-and-thats-it/

Burrowing down to the pic of the pale woman doing the ranting reminds me:  we haven't heard anything from Rachael Dolezal for a while

Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 03, 2021, 11:14:40 PM
They'll declare her an "Uncle Tom" thus she doesn't actually count as black. They've done it with pretty much every black R in the past.

If she didn't vote for Biden...
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 04, 2021, 07:23:05 AM
Republicans also flipped VA's House of Delegates:

https://www.theepochtimes.com/republicans-gain-stunning-2021-election-victories-as-democrats-reel_4084888.html


WTOP, the news radio station in Washington, is still saying that a couple of Va House races are too close to call, and as of 8:30 last night the Republicans had only tied.

https://wtop.com/virginia/2021/11/gop-flips-enough-seats-to-tie-va-house-of-delegates-some-races-remain-too-close-to-call/


Out of all of the news outlets, WTOP is the one I'll most believe.



In other news, Democrat strategist James Carville blames progressives and "stupid wokeness" for losses...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-virginia-was-stupid-wokeness

Gee, ya think?


And, best of all, the Squad has apparently congratulated all of the people of color who won races on Tuesday... with one glaring exception...

Gee, I wonder who the Squad DIDN'T congratulate?

If you said the strong Black woman whom Virginia's horribly racist Republicans just made Lieutenant Governor, you'd be right!

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/squad-members-silent-winsome-sears-historic-win-virginia
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 04, 2021, 07:38:24 AM
Hum...

Vpap.org is showing that Republicans have picked up 7 seats in the House of Delegates.

https://www.vpap.org/electionresults/20211102/house/

Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 04, 2021, 09:14:28 AM
Nothing Virginia will do will mean much of anything nationally. But what a clown show we have coming. The next state senate and legislature races will be assaulted by outside money. Everyone will be a racist. Maybe a hollywood boycott. So much face was lost after negative results from bringing in Obama and all the rest of the stars. There will be revenge. First stop, the new headquarters of the Resistance, the state senate. Here they will surely finally defeat that evil Trump...
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: TechMan on November 04, 2021, 11:11:36 AM
Well Republicans are still racist...https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/04/who-knew-stanford-poli-sci-assistant-professor-reveals-how-winsome-sears-victory-in-virginia-ackshually-proves-that-the-gop-is-racist/ (https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/04/who-knew-stanford-poli-sci-assistant-professor-reveals-how-winsome-sears-victory-in-virginia-ackshually-proves-that-the-gop-is-racist/)
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 04, 2021, 11:19:28 AM
Well Republicans are still racist...https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/04/who-knew-stanford-poli-sci-assistant-professor-reveals-how-winsome-sears-victory-in-virginia-ackshually-proves-that-the-gop-is-racist/ (https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2021/11/04/who-knew-stanford-poli-sci-assistant-professor-reveals-how-winsome-sears-victory-in-virginia-ackshually-proves-that-the-gop-is-racist/)

Well to prove I'm not racist I'm only going to vote for the white guy from now on.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 04, 2021, 11:25:51 AM
Anyone remember that by electing Obama we were over this whole race issue? Pepperidge farm remembers
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: charby on November 04, 2021, 03:35:56 PM
I made the mistake of listening to part of "The View" today, Behar was losing her mind that Trump may be re-elected in 2024.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 04, 2021, 04:28:24 PM
AOC & co. blame moderates for Tuesday's losses:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aoc-terry-mcauliffe-loss-fully-moderated-campaign

Quote
"Plus, on the election front. I actually think we have good news as well. I know that Virginia was a huge bummer. And honestly, if anything, I think that the results show the limits of trying to run a fully 100% super moderated campaign that does not excite speak to or energize a progressive base. And frankly, we weren't even really invited to contribute on that race," Ocasio-Cortez said in an Instagram story Wednesday evening, which has since been shared on other social media platforms.

"We lost because we weren't crazy enough."     Sure thing, kiddo.  Keep on thinking that.

Quote
"I think the American people are saying don’t do that- don’t double down on taxation and spending. The American people have had enough of all of this excess, and I think they sent a message yesterday: stop. That’s the message that should be taken by the Democrats out of yesterday’s election," Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell said on Fox News' "The Story" Wednesday afternoon.

Yup.  I suspect most Democrats won't heed that advice, and I hope they don't.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 04, 2021, 05:57:36 PM
(https://americans-care.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/01-Virginia-Flag-AC-1080-1024x731.jpg)
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RoadKingLarry on November 04, 2021, 10:46:41 PM
I will admit I am pleasantly surprised.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 05, 2021, 12:47:40 AM
(https://americans-care.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/01-Virginia-Flag-AC-1080-1024x731.jpg)

Is that that insurrectionist flag I've been hearing about?  =D
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Angel Eyes on November 05, 2021, 01:24:10 AM
Virginia's next lieutenant governor strikes again:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/11/04/oh-no-she-didnt-lol-winsome-sears-dumps-a-teensy-bit-more-salt-in-the-lincoln-projects-open-wound-and-its-glorious/
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 05, 2021, 01:21:53 PM
(https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/11/918/516/2cartoon-11.5.21-11.5.21-11.5.21-11.jpg?ve=1&tl=1)
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 05, 2021, 01:23:16 PM
The fruit basket was definitely a nice touch. The classier style of trolling we should have seen more of from Trump.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 05, 2021, 02:52:44 PM
The usual suspects are all in on this thing, msnbc guest says she is a black mouth for a white supremacist voice. In four years she will be a solid candidate for governor and that terrifies them.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on November 05, 2021, 04:50:58 PM
The usual suspects are all in on this thing, msnbc guest says she is a black mouth for a white supremacist voice. In four years she will be a solid candidate for governor and that terrifies them.

Or Senator, etc. Even if they suddenly "found" enough ballots for her opponent to win, she's still got a lot of name recognition, so the white supremacists would just elect her again.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: gunsmith on November 05, 2021, 06:12:02 PM
    I said this on facebook
  NOVEMBER 4, 2009 


Quote
Obama campaigned in both Virginia and New Jersey, and the Democrats lost hugely in both! Lesson learned: If Obama offers to campaign for you, tell him you have swine flu and he should stay away.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2022, 10:45:44 AM
Hundreds of government workers quit when Youngkin orders them back to the office.

Youngkin’s telework policy prompts more than 300 Virginia state employees to resign
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/youngkins-telework-policy-virginia-state-employees-resign
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Bogie on July 10, 2022, 11:36:43 AM
Maybe a few companies should try that to "right size" their workforces...
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: BobR on July 10, 2022, 12:15:39 PM
It is a good start. I read that VA has about 95k state employees not counting faculty at public schools and universities. So saying 300 sounds so much bigger than less than 0.3%. They could probably lose many more and still be just as (in)efficient as most state governments.

bob
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 10, 2022, 12:42:58 PM
Now how can we get them to leave the country? Or can the state pay for them to relocate to California? That's kind of the same thing.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: griz on July 10, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
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"Despite our best efforts, Youngkin refused to reconsider his disastrous executive action and pressed forward, regardless of longstanding state policies for telework," Virginia state Sen. Ghazala Hashmi, a Democrat, said in a tweet shortly after the policy was implemented.

I suspect that the "disaster" that Sen. Hashmi is talking about is that hundreds of loyal voters will no longer be able to receive a paycheck for doing nothing.  We'll see if the state crumbles away to dust after their departure.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on July 10, 2022, 01:10:03 PM
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Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Perd Hapley on July 10, 2022, 01:11:16 PM
I never realized the sic in Virginia's motto was mass resignation. Take that, Tarquin!
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: HankB on July 10, 2022, 01:17:17 PM
An awful lot of government employees can leave their jobs and . . . not be missed.

Around 30 years ago when I was living in Minnesota, most unionized state workers went on strike. Aside from longer lines during student registration at the University of Minnesota - virtually nobody noticed. NOBODY. The strike was settled after some radio hosts and people writing letters to the editor for the local rags began making this observation. Police, fire, and EMS kept working, the lights stayed on, water and sewer kept working, road repairs continued, bad guys stayed in prison . . . no problems for the overwhelming majority.

And apart from some folks who found the doors to the Smithsonian and gates to some parks closed which put a damper on their vacations, how many people REALLY noticed it when the Federal government "shut down" during previous administrations?
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on July 11, 2022, 07:37:16 AM
Don't you racist bastards know that working from home is a Constitutional right? Guaranteed by something or the other at some time in the somewhere?

IT'S SETTLED PRECEDENT!
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: MechAg94 on July 11, 2022, 08:43:09 AM
Don't you racist bastards know that working from home is a Constitutional right? Guaranteed by something or the other at some time in the somewhere?

IT'S SETTLED PRECEDENT!
Find print:  The "working" part is optional.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: MechAg94 on July 11, 2022, 08:45:24 AM
An awful lot of government employees can leave their jobs and . . . not be missed.

Around 30 years ago when I was living in Minnesota, most unionized state workers went on strike. Aside from longer lines during student registration at the University of Minnesota - virtually nobody noticed. NOBODY. The strike was settled after some radio hosts and people writing letters to the editor for the local rags began making this observation. Police, fire, and EMS kept working, the lights stayed on, water and sewer kept working, road repairs continued, bad guys stayed in prison . . . no problems for the overwhelming majority.

And apart from some folks who found the doors to the Smithsonian and gates to some parks closed which put a damper on their vacations, how many people REALLY noticed it when the Federal government "shut down" during previous administrations?
The politicians always point to police and firefighters when complaining about budget cuts or short falls in tax receipts, but those costs are rarely the reason money is tight.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on July 11, 2022, 08:55:59 AM
The politicians always point to police and firefighters when complaining about budget cuts or short falls in tax receipts, but those costs are rarely the reason money is tight.

There was a fed.gov shutdown not long before I retired. I kinda wish Trump were in during that time, as there were whole sections of government where being shut down made ZERO difference to anyone. I think there might have been some housecleaning.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on July 11, 2022, 09:00:53 AM
Yep, most people hardly noticed.

Found it funny, not in a funny way, that during the shutdown during the Obama years they put fencing around open air monuments in DC and put extra security around them to keep people out while screaming "see what those dirty republicans did!". They actually spend more money shutting down DC than they normally would to try and score media points.

Guess if we had one now we would have photos of AOC crying outside the fence.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 08:24:23 AM
Bad news for Youngkin

Glenn Youngkin STUNNED in Virginia as Democrats flip House and retain Senate control: Republican touted as White House candidate suffers crushing blow on home turf - as abortion rights take center stage at ballot box
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12723599/Glenn-Youngkin-STUNNED-Virginia-Democrats-state-Senate-head-victory-House-Delegates-Republican-touted-White-House-candidate-suffers-crushing-blow-home-turf.html
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 08, 2023, 08:30:31 AM
Republicans seem to have taken a beating across the nation yesterday.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 08, 2023, 08:35:43 AM
As badly as the Democrats do running this country, they run circles around the Republicans with regard to getting their voters to the polls.  Plus, I still believe at least half, if not more, of the people in the USA really desire a socialist government.  Many probably don't realize that what they want is socialism because they are politically ignorant.  But they sure vote for it.
They way I see it, in 2024, Biden wins reelection, if he is still in the race.  Otherwise, his replacement will win the presidency.  The Democrats will solidify their control over the Senate, and they will take back the House.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: K Frame on November 08, 2023, 08:36:34 AM
*expletive deleted*ck *expletive deleted*ck *expletive deleted*ck.

Living this *expletive deleted*it in Virginia again.

Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 08:41:38 AM
  Plus, I still believe at least half, if not more, of the people in the USA really desire a socialist government.  Many probably don't realize that what they want is socialism because they are politically ignorant.  But they sure vote for it.


I think many are voting for it when you got mobs of new voters coming out of school now knowing for a fact capitalism is the cause of all the evils in the world and socialism is the answer.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: RocketMan on November 08, 2023, 08:45:17 AM
I think many are voting for it when you got mobs of new voters coming out of school now knowing for a fact capitalism is the cause of all the evils in the world and socialism is the answer.

Schools have been teaching that crap since at least the 1970s.  In fact, it started for me in junior high on the late sixties.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: Ben on November 08, 2023, 09:15:11 AM
I think many are voting for it when you got mobs of new voters coming out of school now knowing for a fact capitalism is the cause of all the evils in the world and socialism is the answer.

I mean, we now have college students (and members of congress) calling for "death to the Jews", so our education system has become the lost cause that is accelerating a drive into socialism.

Any of these students' grandparents or great grandparents that might have been an eyewitness to things like Auschwitz, or the gulags, or the old Romania, are mostly dead now, so they are not around to smack said students in the back of the head to ask them what the hell is wrong with them. They only have their college professors and in too many cases now, weak parents who grew up in good times.

 I suppose in a glass half full kinda way, hard times and strong men seem to be right around the corner, so we may see a reset (just not the kind of reset that Klaus wants).
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 09:26:51 AM
I mean, we now have college students (and members of congress) calling for "death to the Jews", so our education system has become the lost cause that is accelerating a drive into socialism.


Free Speech! Free Speech! Free Speech!

Meanwhile  these same students and members of congress would gleefully have you sent to a gulag for using the wrong pronoun
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 12:17:13 PM
Joe wants to make it all about him

Jubilant Biden campaign claims stunning election results show the American people 'overwhelmingly side' with his vision - as CNN analyst says it's the president who's in trouble, not Democrats
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12725399/Jubilant-Biden-campaign-claims-stunning-election-results-American-people-overwhelmingly-vision-CNN-analyst-says-president-whos-trouble-not-Democrats.html
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: French G. on November 08, 2023, 12:27:04 PM
I think everyone reads to much into virginia for national indicators. We're just a nice state polluted by urban areas. The election was no referendum on Biden just typical weak VA Republicans and a ton of unopposed races. The only one I care about is Kentucky,  good chance  Beshear will appoint the replacement for mitch the vegetable.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 12:34:17 PM
The only one I care about is Kentucky,  good chance  Beshear will appoint the replacement for mitch the vegetable.

The teachers union flooded the mail with huge Cameron is "anti-education" fliers. Had to cost them a fortune. Couldn't even turn on a youtube video if an ad blocker wasn't installed without having to sit through an ad, that they made sure you could not skip,  that either told you how Cameron wants to take us back to 12th century or how wonderful Beshear is.
And for some reason he seems to be extremely popular with women, has a heck of fan club. Makes my skin crawl.
4 more years of Andy, SMDH.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 02:03:10 PM
I guarantee if Cameron was the dem people on the left would be screaming he lost because he was black and this shows how racist Ky is.
Who knows there may have been people who didn't vote for him because he was black but because he was the r and not the d candidate it will never be brought up
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 08, 2023, 06:50:46 PM
Republican Party Checks Into Rehab For Addiction To Losing
https://babylonbee.com/news/republican-party-checks-into-rehab-for-addiction-to-losing
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: charby on November 08, 2023, 07:06:28 PM
As badly as the Democrats do running this country, they run circles around the Republicans with regard to getting their voters to the polls.  Plus, I still believe at least half, if not more, of the people in the USA really desire a socialist government.  Many probably don't realize that what they want is socialism because they are politically ignorant.  But they sure vote for it.
They way I see it, in 2024, Biden wins reelection, if he is still in the race.  Otherwise, his replacement will win the presidency.  The Democrats will solidify their control over the Senate, and they will take back the House.

2023 Election was the odd year elections for school boards and city councils in Iowa (non party elections). The local city council race wasn't too crazy, pretty normal, incumbents for the most part ran unopposed or the opposition was bat *expletive deleted*it crazy. There was one really contested race of a vacated city council person's death a few months ago.

Now the school board was quite a hot mess. 4 open seats and 8 people were vying for the 4 seats. The four candidates that won ran in unison against basically everything the GOP ran state government has enacted in the last 2 years for education in Iowa. Things like book bans, private school vouchers, etc.  There is a whole laundry list that is going to significantly change publc schools in Iowa, bad or good, still to be determined.

The 4 that lost, 2 wanted Christian religion in public schools. 1 wanted to change the mascot back to Mohawk from the current Riverhawk, and the 4th one was a very vocal QAnon follower.

The 4 that one got 65% of the vote and the other 4% got 35% of the vote equally. Registered votes here are pretty much 35% GOP, 35% DEM and %30 independent or other party.

Basically, the winning 4 got the Dem and independent voters.

Be interesting to see what happens in 2024 in Iowa with the County, State (house and 1/2 of the Senate), and Federal elections, then again in 2026 when the Gov et al are up for election.

I know in Iowa abortion and the school voucher system is going to be quite contentious.
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 09, 2023, 09:17:28 AM
Basically Andy was given the election by the R's.
Can't win an election if you don't show up

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Although several controversial issues drove voters to the polls this general election, Kentucky’s voter turnout was just 38%. That’s down around 4% from the previous governor’s race in 2019.

Just 1.3 million Kentuckians voted in the gubernatorial election, compared to more than 1.4 million back in 2019.

Dr. Stephen Voss, an associate professor of political science with the University of Kentucky who studies voting behavior, said the lack of turnout can mostly be attributed to a lack of enthusiasm.

“The number one thing that determines if somebody wants to vote, if they have their voting rights, is whether they feel like voting,” Voss said. “If they’re politically engaged and motivated, they show up.”

Voss said there simply wasn’t enough enthusiasm among Republican voters this time around, demonstrated by low turnout in some key Republican counties.

“It tended to be especially low in areas that have often turned out in larger numbers for Republicans in the past,” Voss said.
https://www.wave3.com/2023/11/09/why-was-voter-turnout-low-gubernatorial-race/
Title: Re: VA Governor Election Prediction
Post by: WLJ on November 12, 2023, 11:27:12 AM
And an update

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    🚨 Virginia Dems Could Lose Control Of 21-19 Senate Because Member May Have Lied About Residence

    Sen Hashemi claimed she lived in an apartment in SD15 where she ran. Evidence suggests she lives at a home in SD12 which she concealed, making her ineligiblehttps://t.co/Asb4sDg6wT
    — Luke Rosiak (@lukerosiak) November 11, 2023
https://twitchy.com/samj/2023/11/12/virginia-might-not-be-lost-cheating-democrats-caught-cheating-again-n2389697