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Civic Literacy?
« on: December 08, 2008, 10:42:18 AM »
http://www.americancivicliteracy.org/

Here.

I scored 93.94%, getting questions 30 and 33 wrong. Mind, I think 'their' answer to 30 is wrong, but hey.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2008, 10:47:33 AM »
I aced it. Of course I am an economist, so it's a little unfair.

Also, question 30 is not wrong.




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The question was: What FISCAL policy would a government likely follow in a recession.


It was not asking: what is the best policy for the government to follow. (Which should be: lower taxes and get out of the way)
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2008, 10:53:20 AM »
93.94%  I got 7 and 27 wrong, but I got 27 wrong because I misread one of the choices.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2008, 10:58:05 AM »
90.91 %

Missed Questions:
Question #8
Question #13
Question #18

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2008, 11:03:34 AM »
You answered 30 out of 33 correctly — 90.91 %

Missed 14, 30, and 33.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2008, 11:22:03 AM »
Damn, I got spanked...84.85%. Oh well.

Question #4
Question #7
Question #8
Question #13
Question #27


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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2008, 11:38:06 AM »
I took this on another forum.   I missed 3.
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2008, 11:39:34 AM »
Damn, I got spanked...84.85%. Oh well.

Question #4
Question #7
Question #8
Question #13
Question #27




Same here.. I missed these

Question #7
Question #8
Question #14
Question #27
Question #33
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2008, 11:46:42 AM »
93.94%

Missed #27 & #33, both by failing to read correctly.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2008, 12:22:26 PM »
93.94, missed 30 and 33. I thought FDR upped taxes as well as spending.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2008, 12:54:19 PM »
93.94, missed 30 and 33. I thought FDR upped taxes as well as spending.

He did.
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2008, 01:09:39 PM »
Did this about a month ago.

Missed two.

Got 93.94% . . . which, considering I spent many years not paying attention, isn't all that bad.


One thing I noticed was that once people from gun boards started taking the test, the average score for the month in question spiked.

Fancy that.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2008, 01:32:07 PM »
Flew through it in 3-4 minutes and got a 93.94%.

Never thought my college humanities survey course, as well as micro and macroeconomics courses, would ever be utilized.


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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2008, 01:54:18 PM »
I only missed #33, as neither option looked that good to me.  And I'm still trying to educate myself into some kind of economic competence.   =D


The question about Socrates and Aquinas just doesn't belong there.  I presume it was just there because someone wanted to make a point.  (A point with which I agree, of course.)

I don't know if they should have accused MLKj of believing in a non sequitir like "racial justice," but then I tend to be a bit pedantic about the way "justice" is thrown around.  I thought 25 and 29 were a little off, too, but maybe it's just my ignorance. 


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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2008, 02:32:50 PM »
93.94%. I also missed 30 and 33, thinking of what government should do rather than what a government would likely do.

The way many of the questions are phrased would make it likely that many liberals would have lower scores.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2008, 02:34:31 PM »
93.94%. I also missed 30 and 33, thinking of what government should do rather than what a government would likely do.

The way many of the questions are phrased would make it likely that many liberals would have lower scores.

Them's fightin' words, there... just exactly what are you insinuating? :laugh:
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2008, 02:51:04 PM »
6)   The Bill of Rights explicitly prohibits:
A. prayer in public school
B. discrimination based on race, sex, or religion
C. the ownership of guns by private individuals
D. establishing an official religion for the United States
E. the president from vetoing a line item in a spending bill

Liberal answer: A

13)   Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, and Aquinas would concur that:
A. all moral and political truth is relative to one’s time and place
B. moral ideas are best explained as material accidents or byproducts of evolution
C. values originating in one’s conscience cannot be judged by others
D. Christianity is the only true religion and should rule the state
E. certain permanent moral and political truths are accessible to human reason

Liberal answer: A

15)   The phrase that in America there should be a “wall of separation” between church and state appears in:
A. George Washington’s Farewell Address
B. the Mayflower Compact
C. the Constitution
D. the Declaration of Independence
E. Thomas Jefferson’s letters

Liberal answer: D (at least that's what many think)

24)   In the area of United States foreign policy, Congress shares power with the:
A. president
B. Supreme Court
C. state governments
D. United Nations

Liberal answer: D

25)   Free enterprise or capitalism exists insofar as:
A. experts managing the nation’s commerce are appointed by elected officials
B. individual citizens create, exchange, and control goods and resources
C. charity, philanthropy, and volunteering decrease
D. demand and supply are decided through majority vote
E. government implements policies that favor businesses over consumers

Liberal answer: E

27)   Free markets typically secure more economic prosperity than government’s centralized planning because:
A. the price system utilizes more local knowledge of means and ends
B. markets rely upon coercion, whereas government relies upon voluntary compliance with the law
C. more tax revenue can be generated from free enterprise
D. property rights and contracts are best enforced by the market system
E. government planners are too cautious in spending taxpayers’ money

Liberal answer: B

28)   A progressive tax:
A. encourages more investment from those with higher incomes
B. is illustrated by a 6% sales tax
C. requires those with higher incomes to pay a higher ratio of taxes to income
D. requires every income class to pay the same ratio of taxes to income
E. earmarks revenues for poverty reduction

Liberal answer: E

29)   A flood-control levee (or National Defense) is considered a public good because:
A. citizens value it as much as bread and medicine
B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
C. government construction contracts increase employment
D. insurance companies cannot afford to replace all houses after a flood
E. government pays for its construction, not citizens

Liberal answer: E

31)   International trade and specialization most often lead to which of the following?
A. an increase in a nation’s productivity
B. a decrease in a nation’s economic growth in the long term
C. an increase in a nation’s import tariffs
D. a decrease in a nation’s standard of living

Liberal answer: D

33)   If taxes equal government spending, then:
A. government debt is zero
B. printing money no longer causes inflation
C. government is not helping anybody
D. tax per person equals government spending per person
E. tax loopholes and special-interest spending are absent

Liberal answer: C, although, since everything is relative, E can also be correct.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2008, 02:58:25 PM »
Notice that many of us are getting #30 and/or #33 wrong. How come? What is it about those questions that causes many of us (with similar political and economic philosophies, no doubt) to either misread them, misunderstand them, or lack knowledge in those areas?
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2008, 03:04:00 PM »
Notice that many of us are getting #30 and/or #33 wrong. How come? What is it about those questions that causes many of us (with similar political and economic philosophies, no doubt) to either misread them, misunderstand them, or lack knowledge in those areas?

My guess is lack of economic training. The term "Fiscal Policy" implies some form of government spending if you have an economics background.

The implications of taxes=spending is a basic economic reasoning: If taxes=spending, then taxes/population=spending/population which means avg. taxes/person=avg. spending/person.
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2008, 03:05:14 PM »
Took it a couple weeks ago, linked from another message board - I scored 87.9% (29 out of 33 correct), and IIRC I missed #s 7, 14, 30, and 33.

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2008, 03:15:16 PM »
Yep, I got 33 wrong also (the only one I missed).  Simply because I viewed it as basic accounting.

If Revenues (Taxes) = Expenses (Spending) then Profit/Loss (Debt/Surplus) = 0
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« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2008, 03:16:46 PM »
People miss #33 because they equate deficit with debt.

If your expenditures exactly match your income, then you have no deficit for the period in question.

If you have borrowed money, you will have debt.  If you had an unresolved deficit in the past, you will have debt.

So, if you have existing debt, and this year's income equals this year's expenses, then you still have that debt when the year is done, even though you did not have a deficit.

The difference isn't even particularly subtle if you're paying attention, but we've had years of misinformation on the subject, so it's an easy enough mistake to make.  (You will probably recall the Clinton administration's "balancing the budget" being presented as though it had somehow eliminated debt, when what it actually did was simply reduce that period's deficit to zero.)

If you were a math-oriented kind of person, the problem could be stated:
for the expression Dr = (I - E) + De
(where I is income, E is expenses, De is existing debt, and Dr is resulting debt)
(Oh, and don't forget that D [debt] will be a negative number.)
if I = E, what is the value of Dr?

This, of course, does not answer the distribution part of the question, but it does eliminate the "no debt" answer as a possibility.

« Last Edit: December 08, 2008, 03:26:25 PM by ArfinGreebly »
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2008, 03:29:03 PM »
Monkeyleg, just yanking your chain... I do see what you're getting at, though. =)
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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2008, 09:44:11 PM »
Notice that many of us are getting #30 and/or #33 wrong. How come? What is it about those questions that causes many of us (with similar political and economic philosophies, no doubt) to either misread them, misunderstand them, or lack knowledge in those areas?

I missed #33 largely because D. does not read "average tax per...average spending per..."  Perhaps I am too literal.  (I admit to often being too littoral. =D)

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Re: Civic Literacy?
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2008, 09:53:39 PM »
Embarrassing.

You answered 26 out of 33 correctly — 78.79 %

Average score for this quiz during December: 74.9%
Average score: 74.9%

Answers to Your Missed Questions:
Question #4 - B. Would slavery be allowed to expand to new territories?
Question #7 - D. Gettysburg Address
Question #13 - E. certain permanent moral and political truths are accessible to human reason
Question #14 - B. stressed the sinfulness of all humanity
Question #29 - B. a resident can benefit from it without directly paying for it
Question #31 - A. an increase in a nation’s productivity
Question #33 - D. tax per person equals government spending per person
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