First Americans stone age europeans?

[gunsmith]

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/radical-theory-of-first-americans-places-stone-age-europeans-in-delmarva-20000-years-ago/2012/02/28/gIQA4mriiR_story.html?hpid=z5

Wasn't there something like this discovered in the seventies too? kennyquick man or something?

[wmenorr67]

Did you not read the article?  It is talking about the discovery of 1970.

When the crew of the Virginia scallop trawler Cinmar hauled a mastodon tusk onto the deck in 1970, another oddity dropped out of the net: a dark, tapered stone blade, nearly eight inches long and still sharp.

[gunsmith]

Did you not read the article?  It is talking about the discovery of 1970.

Yes- but not the discovery I was referring to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennewick_Man
Was what I was referring to-a different time too, 1996-oh well 20, 40 yrs whats the dif?

[wmenorr67]

Yes- but not the discovery I was referring to.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennewick_Man
Was what I was referring to-a different time too, 1996-oh well 20, 40 yrs whats the dif?

My father always said the mind was the second thing to go.  He could just never remember the first.

[roo_ster]

There have been other, similar discoveries even out west.  One, I recall the local "native" Americans were so disturbed by it they went to court to get the evidence back and then dumped untold tons of rock over the remains and site to keep folks from studying them.

[lee n. field]

An anthropology professor I had (I believe it was Donald Lathrop), back in the day (back when the conventional wisdom was "7-8 thousand years ago, across the Bering landbridge") said, once you break "the Pleistocene barrier" there's no telling how far back it goes.

Some interesting stuff coming out lately.  I wonder what else from that era is now underwater on the continental shelf.

And, in my queue to read "sometime soon" is Robert Ardrey's Hunting Hypothesis.

[RoadKingLarry]

Lots of interesting evidence has been uncovered that contradicts the standard model. There has been evidence of Norse settlements on North America for a long time and it has only been recently that main stream science has started to accept it. Also evidence of Chinese visits to the west coast, still being mostly poo poo'd by the main stream.
My opinion is that there is a western/euro-centric bias in archeology that puts up blinders to the possibility of civilizations advanced enough to have done things Europeans did centuries before Europeans were even beginning to be capable of it.

[lupinus]

I think there's enough evidence to support it, personally. And given the ice caps at the time, not even all that hard to believe IMO.

The more time that goes on the more conventional wisdom is tossed out the window. Columbus the first "modern" European to discover America has pretty soundly been debunked, for instance. Evidence has been found the Chinese made trips to the west coast. Heck, I seem to even recall the Egyptians and Greeks may have had some trade routes to the Americas. All of this would have been limited, but evidence has suggested the possibility/likelihood.

Who got here first is really a moot point, but is interesting all the same.

[gunsmith]

 Supposedly Paiutes have artifacts of red headed people locked up.

[Harold Tuttle]

There were writing cultures in middle Europe several ice ages ago, that completely disappeared from the archeological record

[MechAg94]

Supposedly Paiutes have artifacts of red headed people locked up.

I thought I read someone suggest Lewis and Clark saw natives that were red headed and blonde, but supposedly, those particular groups were wiped out by disease fairly quick.  I've never gone looking to see if that was true.

[MechAg94]

Either way, I am always surprised at how resistant some people are to new ideas and possibilities.  How many people seem to assume we know all their is to know and vigorously resist any alternative.

[wmenorr67]

It was space aliens.

[TommyGunn]

Either way, I am always surprised at how resistant some people are to new ideas and possibilities.  How many people seem to assume we know all their is to know and vigorously resist any alternative.

If it isn't covered in WIKIPEDIA it NEVER HAPPENED.

[seeker_two]

It was space aliens.

Cylons....we're all descended from Cylons....

[drewtam]

It was space aliens.

YES

[TommyGunn]

That a picture of a Klingon there, Drewtam?   

[mordrid52]

Evidence has been found the Chinese made trips to the west coast.

Gavin Menzies' theory that the Chinese discovered the New World, along with his theory that the Chinese started the Italian Renaissance, has been utterly debunked by real historians and scholars, along with all of his "evidence."

[Perd Hapley]

My opinion is that there is a western/euro-centric bias in archeology that puts up blinders to the possibility of civilizations advanced enough to have done things Europeans did centuries before Europeans were even beginning to be capable of it.

I am skeptical of this theory for four reasons.

1. I will not accept that idea, as it is new to me.

2. Temporal bias is a more likely explanation. There is a nearly uniform tendency to believe that ancient people were less intelligent and less capable than moderns, no matter where or what color.

3. Loony people really like those theories, which tends to make them suspect, even if they are true.

4. Aliens.

[roo_ster]

I am skeptical of this theory for four reasons.

1. I will not accept that idea, as it is new to me.

2. Temporal bias is a more likely explanation. There is a nearly uniform tendency to believe that ancient people were less intelligent and less capable than moderns.

3. Loony people really like those theories, which tends to make them suspect, even if they are true.

4. Aliens.

Don;t forget the chemtrails.

[Perd Hapley]

Isn't that what the chemtrails are for? To make us forget that the government is...is...I can't remember. 

[freakazoid]

YES

For some reason that had me rolling on the floor. I just couldn't stop laughing.

[Viking]

It's the hair combined with that "duuuude, I've smoked soooo much pot today" facial expression .

[HankB]

. . . Heck, I seem to even recall the Egyptians and Greeks may have had some trade routes to the Americas. All of this would have been limited, but evidence has suggested the possibility/likelihood.

I read that the ancient Egyptians may have been familiar with cocaine . . . now, where does that come from?

As for the dude pictured in earlier posts . . . obviously, with that hair, he has Centauri blood.

[RoadKingLarry]

Gavin Menzies' theory that the Chinese discovered the New World, along with his theory that the Chinese started the Italian Renaissance, has been utterly debunked by real historians and scholars, along with all of his "evidence."

Menzies is pretty much a moon bat, but while there is nothing concrete, no smoking gun, there is some evidence that Chinese sailing ships visited north America pre-Columbus. Chinese sailing vessels had the capability to make such a voyage. My point isn't an assertion that it happened but rather that it is possible and for the mainstream to ridicule something simply because it it isn't accepted is not "scientific".

Thor Heyerdahl proved that it is possible for an Egyptian style reed boat to make a trans-Atlantic voyage but he didn't prove that it happened.