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Main Forums => Politics => Topic started by: Ben on March 02, 2019, 04:36:29 PM
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Trump announced at CPAC that because of the "Berkeley punch", he'll be signing an EO that restricts Federal research funding from any university that attempts to block free speech.
While we'll have to read the EO for specifics, on the face of it I'm going to enjoy watching the liberal student riots over having to listen to opinions they don't agree with. =D
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-on-cpac-stage-with-berkeley-assault-victim-promises-executive-order-on-campus-free-speech
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=D
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It's sad that things have come to this. Any non-private space is a free speech zone.
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It's sad that things have come to this. Any non-private space is a free speech zone.
Exactly, the idea that they have to have free speech zones on college campuses is an abomination.
bob
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It's sad that things have come to this. Any non-private space is a free speech zone.
Except for public streets during a rally. Wasn’t it GWB who created “free speech zones?”
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Trump should issue the original Bill of Rights as an executive order :laugh:
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Exactly, the idea that they have to have free speech zones on college campuses is an abomination.
bob
Which is why I'm good with an EO (again, I'd like to read it in case there are some gotchyas) holding research funding back. The UC system (Berkeley included) gets a TON of fed funding as well as in-kind stuff. Our boats and dive team would get stuck on more than one occasion donating fed.gov time to university research projects, and they count on that money and those resources.
If tax dollars go to them, they had better honor the constitution, or else hit up their alumni for the billions of dollars.
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I'm 100% fine with this.
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Except for public streets during a rally. Wasn’t it GWB who created “free speech zones?”
Wiki article traces it to the '88 Dem. Convention.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone
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Trump should issue the original Bill of Rights as an executive order :laugh:
That would be quickly followed by just about every dem and news outlet in the world declaring it racist and unconstitutional
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Wiki article traces it to the '88 Dem. Convention.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone
Thanks.
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That would be quickly followed by just about every dem and news outlet in the world declaring it racist and unconstitutional
Funny. Crazy. Also true.
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On the OP, while I agree with the idea of stopping the liberal censorship of speech to allow only expressions of approved ideas, I don't care for the use of EOs in this way. No more than I like when Obama used an EO to give legal status to a bunch of illegals. The president is being set for an abuse of that authority by a CIC with an agenda. God help us if/when that happens.
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On the OP, while I agree with the idea of stopping the liberal censorship of speech to allow only expressions of approved ideas, I don't care for the use of EOs in this way. No more than I like when Obama used an EO to give legal status to a bunch of illegals. The president is being set for an abuse of that authority by a CIC with an agenda. God help us if/when that happens.
While I agree EOs should be used carefully, and as I said, still want to see the text of this one, I so far don't have a big problem with this EO. Partly because it's simply holding back Federal grants to universities. Personally, I think universities already get way too much Federal money, while charging outrageous tuition, especially considering how fascist most of them are becoming.
I look at this one the same way I look at welfare (or how I want welfare to be): If you take my tax money through welfare, you don't get to buy lobster with it. If you're a university taking my tax money through grants, you don't get to pick and choose on free speech on campus. If you don't take my tax money, eat all the lobster you want, and if you're a private university, pick and choose whoever you want to speak on campus. If you're a public university and publicly funded, you don't get that luxury - you have to abide by the first amendment.