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Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« on: May 31, 2010, 10:49:49 AM »
I can't help but wonder what the interactions and outcome of this story would have been had the encounter been with any number of other groups or organizations, or with a different President across the street.

edit: And to immediately create a tangent to my thread, "Wide or Die" seems like an interesting group of businessmen, from the few hints Google gives.

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http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/covering-obama-press-encounters-nation-of-islam-95214269.html

Covering Obama, press encounters Nation of Islam
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
05/30/10 8:56 AM EDT

President Obama’s home is in the same Chicago neighborhood as Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.  On Saturday night, the overlapping of Obama’s and Farrakhan’s worlds made for a strange, and sometimes testy, encounter between the Secret Service, the press corps covering the president, and the paramilitary security force, the Fruit of Islam, surrounding Farrakhan.

The encounter was written up — for distribution to the press, not necessarily for publication — by the New York Times’ Jackie Calmes.  It began a little after 4:00 p.m. when Obama and his family walked to the nearby home of longtime friend Marty Nesbitt for a backyard cookout.  It just so happens that Nesbitt lives across the street from Farrakhan.

A few hours after Obama went to Nesbitt’s home, the press pool, including Calmes, was waiting in a bus parked near 49th Street and Woodlawn Avenue, next to Farrakhan’s mansion.  The reporters’ Secret Service minder allowed them off the bus to stretch their legs.  As they stood on the sidewalk, some of the journalists inadvertently touched the grass next to the sidewalk, and that is when the encounter began.  From Calmes’ report:

    Immediately a polite man in jeans and T-shirt emerged to ask us to stay off the grass. Though this grass was the curbside city property, we obliged.

But it turned out that simply staying off the grass was not enough to satisfy the man in the T-shirt.  Calmes continues:

    Soon, however, he was pacing and talking on a cell phone. He went inside the mansion’s black wrought iron fence, crossed the well-landscaped yard, lifted a water bucket behind rose bushes and, voila!, a walkie-talkie. He was heard to refer to “the CIA” once he began speaking into it.

    Soon he approached our [Secret Service] agent, asking him to move the van and its occupants, though your pooler could not hear much else he said. But the agent said, “How is this a security breach?” And he asked if the house was a government property.

    The man said something else and at that point the agent stuck out his hand to shake hands and introduced himself as a Secret Service agent. He added, “Sir, I can assure you that we will do nothing to interfere with whatever is going on in there.”

It might be assumed that an assurance from the Secret Service would be enough to satisfy any security-minded guardian of Louis Farrakhan.  But not in this case.  Calmes continues:

    The man is back to pacing and talking on his cell, walkie-talkie in hand.

    A co-pooler searched the Internet for the address and found it listed on a Web site called NotForTourists and another called Taxexemptworld.com. Indeed, another pooler found a county Web site that confirmed this property is tax exempt for being a religious institution.

    Reinforcements arrived — three men in T-shirts reading “Wide or Die!” One surly man has been staring daggers at us. Asked if this is Minister Farrakhan’s house, he just stared at your pooler. Asked again, he said, “I don’t have no comment.”

    At nearly 8 p.m. local time we are still holding while POTUS and family remain at the Nesbitts.

More time passed.  The men in T-shirts were joined by even more men,  from the Fruit of Islam, Farrakhan’s security force.  From Calmes:

    It’s 8:45 and nearly dark; your pool has retreated back inside the van. We’re outnumbered now by roughly a dozen Fruit of Islam agents for the Nation of Islam. As each casually dressed man arrives, he exchanges elaborate handshake/hug/double air-kisses with others. Two walked by your pooler chanting “Islam.”

    Several have filmed and photographed your poolers, the van and its license plates with their cell phones.

    One came and stood close to a couple poolers and OUR [Secret Service] agent. He asked if he could help. No answer. He asked again. The man said no. The agent said, “Secret Service — Please move away from this group of people.”

    He did. Soon the agent asked us to go in the bus. We did.

At that point, the Secret Service was badly outnumbered by the Fruit of Islam, who apparently believed that some sort of “security breach” had occurred.  Were Farrakhan’s men armed?  Were there more on the way?  The Secret Service agent called for backup.  From Calmes:

    9:20 local time and our agent got reinforcements from three Secret Service agents. One shook hands with one of the 22 Fruit members we now can count from the van. After a short discussion the three Secret Service agents walked away again.

    No word on when we get to leave. We’re guessing POTUS is watching the Blackhawks game at the Nesbitts’ home.

While this was happening, word of the standoff apparently got around as a result of Calmes’ pool reports (they were sent out piecemeal by email).  Someone who had read the reports got in touch with Farrakhan to let the Nation of Islam leader know that the people waiting outside were just covering Obama.  From Calmes:

    The power of pool reportage! Standoff ends, apparently with help of intermediary in Detroit:

    Your pooler got a call at about 10:15 local time from a pool report reader who identified himself as the Rev. Gary Hunter, a Baptist minister in Motown who writes and blogs for the Detroit Times. He said he had called Minister Farrakhan and his son and asked them to have the Fruit stand down.

    “I told him you were good people,” Rev. Hunter said. “He said he didn’t know you all were just waiting for the president.”

    As it happens, the Fruit of Islam indeed had mostly gone by then. The Rev. Hunter apparently is remembered by [White House social secretary staffer Samantha] Tubman, and he said he knows our frequent press rustler Ben Finkenbinder from past travels with Obama.

    Anyway, at 10:33 we pulled away and we are at the Obama residence. Never saw POTUS at all.

And that was the end of it.  Some observers will make light of the whole thing — just a little misunderstanding with those weird Nation of Islam guys — but the fact that Farrakhan’s security force is close to the president’s home is likely a matter of continuing concern to the Secret Service.  And on Saturday night, the two forces ran into each other.
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #1 on: May 31, 2010, 12:04:47 PM »
Apparently not all militia groups are created equal...?
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2010, 12:17:57 PM »
the fruits of islam are usually unarmed when i've seen em.  most impressive to see several of them confront disarm and beat a guy with a shot gun
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #3 on: May 31, 2010, 03:36:54 PM »
Somebody has to say it, so I guess I will...

...nah, no, I'd better not...

...well, just as a joke in poor taste...

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(Actually, I'm pretty sure President Obama would think that was pretty funny...  I hope.)

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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #4 on: May 31, 2010, 04:24:54 PM »
Nation of Islam is virulently racist and batshit crazy. Quotes from wiki...

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The NOI teaches that the Earth and Moon were once the same, and that the Earth is over 76 trillion years old.[11]  The entire land mass on the Earth was called "Asia". This was, Elijah Muhammad claims, long before Adam.[12]

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The Nation of Islam teaches that Black people were the original humans. Louis Farrakhan has stated that "White people are potential humans…they haven’t evolved yet."

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Thoughtful white people know they are inferior to Black people. Even [Senator James] Eastland knows it. Anyone who has studied the genetic phase of biology knows that white is considered recessive and black is considered dominant. ..The entire American economy is based on white supremacy. Even the religious philosophies, in essence, white supremacy. A white Jesus. A white Virgin. White angels. White everything. But a black Devil, of course. The "Uncle Sam" political foundation is based on white supremacy, relegating nonwhites to second−class citizenship. It goes without saying that the social philosophy is strictly white supremacist. And the educational system perpetuates white supremacy.[

Quote from: Farrakhan
"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad told us of a giant Mother Plane that is made like the universe, spheres within spheres. White people call them unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Ezekiel, in the Old Testament, saw a wheel that looked like a cloud by day but a pillar of fire by night. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that that wheel was built on the island of Nippon, which is now called Japan, by some of the Original scientists. It took $15 billion in gold at that time to build it. It is made of the toughest steel. America does not yet know the composition of the steel used to make an instrument like it. It is a circular plane, and the Bible says that it never makes turns. Because of its circular nature it can stop and travel in all directions at speeds of thousands of miles per hour. He said there are 1,500 small wheels in this Mother Wheel, which is a half mile by a half mile [800 m by 800 m]. This Mother Wheel is like a small human-built planet. Each one of these small planes carry three bombs.

"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said these planes were used to set up mountains on the earth. The Qur'an says it like this: We have raised mountains on the earth lest it convulse with you. How do you raise a mountain, and what is the purpose of a mountain? Have you ever tried to balance a tire? You use weights to keep the tire balanced. That's how the earth is balanced, with mountain ranges. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that we have a type of bomb that, when it strikes the earth a drill on it is timed to go into the earth and explode at the height that you wish the mountain to be. If you wish to take the mountain up a mile [1.6 km], you time the drill to go a mile in and then explode. The bombs these planes have are timed to go one mile down and bring up a mountain one mile high, but it will destroy everything within a 50-square-mile [130 km²] radius. The white man writes in his above top secret memos of the UFOs. He sees them around his military installations like they are spying.
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #5 on: May 31, 2010, 05:47:16 PM »
Nation of Islam is virulently racist and batshit crazy.


But since black people do it, it's really OK.  :police:
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 01:14:44 AM »
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"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad told us of a giant Mother Plane that is made like the universe, spheres within spheres. White people call them unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

Someone should clue him in that his entire group can catch the 'Mother Plane' by dressing up in black sweapants/sweatshirts with black Nikes and take a potent mix of booze and barbituates.
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 01:15:58 AM »
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"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad told us of a giant Mother Plane that is made like the universe, spheres within spheres. White people call them unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Ezekiel, in the Old Testament, saw a wheel that looked like a cloud by day but a pillar of fire by night. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that that wheel was built on the island of Nippon, which is now called Japan, by some of the Original scientists. It took $15 billion in gold at that time to build it. It is made of the toughest steel. America does not yet know the composition of the steel used to make an instrument like it. It is a circular plane, and the Bible says that it never makes turns. Because of its circular nature it can stop and travel in all directions at speeds of thousands of miles per hour. He said there are 1,500 small wheels in this Mother Wheel, which is a half mile by a half mile [800 m by 800 m]. This Mother Wheel is like a small human-built planet. Each one of these small planes carry three bombs.

"The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said these planes were used to set up mountains on the earth. The Qur'an says it like this: We have raised mountains on the earth lest it convulse with you. How do you raise a mountain, and what is the purpose of a mountain? Have you ever tried to balance a tire? You use weights to keep the tire balanced. That's how the earth is balanced, with mountain ranges. The Honorable Elijah Muhammad said that we have a type of bomb that, when it strikes the earth a drill on it is timed to go into the earth and explode at the height that you wish the mountain to be. If you wish to take the mountain up a mile [1.6 km], you time the drill to go a mile in and then explode. The bombs these planes have are timed to go one mile down and bring up a mountain one mile high, but it will destroy everything within a 50-square-mile [130 km²] radius. The white man writes in his above top secret memos of the UFOs. He sees them around his military installations like they are spying.

Which makes Obama The Brother from Another Planet?
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2010, 01:17:52 AM »
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Which makes Obama The Brother from Another Planet?

Planet Kenya.
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #9 on: June 01, 2010, 08:58:11 AM »
More interesting stuff from the Wide or Die crowd.
http://www.tdtwmarketing.com/CieAura_FAQs.pdf
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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2010, 02:19:08 PM »
A bit of snark about this from AceOfSpadesHQ.http://www.ace.mu.nu/


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Byron York shares the pool reporter's email. Apparently, the Fruits thought the reporters, with their Secret Service escort, might be CIA spying on Farrakhan's tax-exempt mansion, which is just around the block from the Obamas' house.

Paranoia? Check.
Paramilitary? Check.
Religious? Check.
Not paying taxes? Check.

It think the press found Napolitano's extremists.
Does any image illustrate so neatly the wrongheadedness of the Obama administration than Americans scrambling in terror from Air Force One?
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2010, 06:26:57 PM »
Someone should clue him in that his entire group can catch the 'Mother Plane' by dressing up in black sweapants/sweatshirts with black Nikes and take a potent mix of booze and barbituates.
Don't foget the 5 dollar bill and quarters.  =D
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2010, 05:55:09 PM »
Do and Ti aren't here man
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2010, 12:29:39 AM »
Wow these guys are like timecube level crazy.
Look, tiny text!

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« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2010, 12:41:13 AM »
http://www.timecube.com/   :O  I have just spent the last half hour imbibing the genius of the Time Cube principle, and it has changed my life. And not in a good way.  =|

Yeah, the N of I is just about that crazy, yet much more articulate.

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« Reply #15 on: June 07, 2010, 09:29:17 AM »
I told you they were crazy.
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Re: Covering Obama, Press Encounters Nation of Islam
« Reply #16 on: June 07, 2010, 10:31:43 AM »
"now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb" -Dark Helmet

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« Reply #17 on: June 07, 2010, 10:45:32 AM »
does gene ray drive a minnie winnie covered in hand written  posters?
It is much more powerful to seek Truth for one's self.  Seeing and hearing that others seem to have found it can be a motivation.  With me, I was drawn because of much error and bad judgment on my part. Confronting one's own errors and bad judgment is a very life altering situation.  Confronting the errors and bad judgment of others is usually hypocrisy.


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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2010, 12:24:06 PM »
I told you they were crazy.

More like bat sh1t crazy!!!
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« Reply #19 on: June 08, 2010, 12:36:58 AM »
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I'm so glad I wasn't drinking when I read that. Or this:

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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2010, 12:53:41 AM »
Endless LOLZ, thy moniker Time Cube is.
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