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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2009, 06:48:43 PM »
I imagine that stealing the space shuttle would be much easier if it was already in space.  Perhaps stealing Sir Richard Branson's newest invention first, then hijacking the shuttle?  You could send out a fake SOS, dock with the shuttle, then storm the crew.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2009, 07:12:31 PM »
Why not just have the SS2, or a similar craft, teleported across space? Cut out  the middle-man!
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2009, 07:42:19 PM »
Have the plane rematerialize in the middle of a gas giant.  No pressure issues.

Heck, depending on the chemical composition of the planet they materialize into, they might even be able to fire up the engines and fly around a bit.  It'd give 'em time to realize they aren't in Kansas any more.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2009, 01:49:41 AM »
Instead of a B1-B can your characters borrow an Aurora? Since the next generation out of the Skunk Works hasn't been unveiled there would be some latitude for literary license.

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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2009, 01:56:04 AM »
Why not a '58 Buick? 
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2009, 10:28:36 AM »
Is that a reference to Heavy Metal?  It has been a long time since I've seen it.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2009, 12:04:43 PM »
Somebody already did a fiction novel about the Space Shuttle being hijacked.

I can't quite remember the name or author, but it may have been Homer Hickam  ???


Anyway... if you're going to teleport somewhere - it should be to a planet of tropical islands with bare-breasted native maidens  =D
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2009, 02:33:32 PM »
Is that a reference to Heavy Metal?  It has been a long time since I've seen it.

Not that I know of.  I just figured if we were changing the type of vehicle, why not go all-out? 
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2009, 04:46:31 PM »
Why not a '58 Buick? 

Will it go 88 mph  ???
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2009, 05:11:59 PM »


Anyway... if you're going to teleport somewhere - it should be to a planet of tropical islands with bare-breasted native maidens  =D

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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2009, 05:48:35 PM »
Why not a '58 Buick? 
Didn't Heinlein do something like that in Number of the Beast? 
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2009, 09:00:40 PM »
Perhaps the effects of the time displacement have a radius (or the 4D equivalent) which transports a certain amount of atmosphere with them.  This remaining air keeps the skin from rupturing.  Further, the displacement removes them from the timestream in what seems to be an instant, but residual "chronons" prevent the atmosphere from instantly dispersing.  That way the loss of pressure is gradual.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #37 on: December 13, 2009, 01:21:32 AM »
Any theory I come up with must conform to known particle physics.

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Quantum entangled neutrino pairs play a very important role in my existing sci-fi novels.  Perhaps there is another theoretical state of matter or relationship I can exploit in this case.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #38 on: December 13, 2009, 11:39:14 PM »
I figure it'll blow seams, but the crew will most likely die from asphixiation, even with O2 supplements.  Freezing takes too long in vacuum - it's a very good insulator.

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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2009, 06:40:56 AM »
Any reason why the Lancer can't just appear inside the atmosphere?....
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2009, 07:54:00 AM »
Have the plane rematerialize in the middle of a gas giant.  No pressure issues.

...not exactly.

There is an EXTREMELY large amount of pressure in the middle of a gas giant.  Just to put it into perspective, the hydrogen that is near the rocky core of Jupiter is under so much pressure that it's metallic.  The Galileo probe that was sent into Jupiter's atmosphere was destroyed before it got more than 140 km into the atmosphere, and it was made for that purpose.

The pressures nearer to the fringes of a gas giant's atmosphere might not be as bad, but then you'd have to deal with large amounts of radiation that is being released by the planet itself (though, this might not be as big an issue with Neptune or Uranus, but I am not certain).
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2009, 10:20:36 AM »
Saturn is postulated to possibly have a temperature layer and pressure layer that may be compatible with human life, save for the lack of Oxygen. And due to it's low average density, it would have a gravity of close to 1g if there were somewhere to stand.

Put a Saturn-like gas giant closer to the Sun, and have some more CO2 in it's makeup, and some sort of airborne photosynthesis going to provide O2, and the B1B's main problem, assuming it appears at the right altitude would be fuel and somewhere to land.  =)
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2009, 05:26:29 PM »
Materialize just outside of the operating envelope above a survivable atmosphere but hurtling, engines out, toward certain doom.

They can grasp the situation from the altimeter and start, say, engine restart procedures then black out from hypoxia and g-forces before the bird actually fails around them.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2009, 08:05:55 PM »
That is not a bad idea at all.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #44 on: December 14, 2009, 08:14:32 PM »
I see what's going on now.  This Devonai character has no talent at all.  He just mines the interwebs for good ideas, and writes them down.  Mountebank.   :mad:
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2009, 09:12:00 PM »
I see what's going on now.  This Devonai character has no talent at all.  He just mines the interwebs for good ideas, and writes them down.  Mountebank.   :mad:

Maybe he should write a story about a Dyson sphere. But a skinny one, that's a loop. I don't think anyone's done that before.

Or maybe a series of stories about a guy who's effectively immortal, product of a freak breeding experiment. At about 4000 years of age, he time travels back to when he was a child and seduces his mother... Kind of kinky and off the wall, but at least that would be original.
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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2009, 09:50:16 PM »
Devonai,

If it turns out to work for the story, feel free to use it.  Maybe name a red shirt after me.  Not enough Carberry's in books.

AJ,

Some kind of a "Hoop World"?  That's the stupidest idea for a book I've ever read.  Will one of the characters be a giant humanoid chinchilla that chatters before it springs or something?  ;/

And as for the eternal perv, what's next, a story about a talking car in the same continuity?

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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2009, 10:02:58 PM »

And as for the eternal perv, what's next, a story about a talking car in the same continuity?


Only if it's a spaceship too. Otherwise it'd just be unreadable.


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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2009, 10:13:20 PM »
The outside was made of Rene 41, a high nickle super alloy, I am pretty sure the corrugations were for temperature differences.

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Re: Space Survivability of the B1B Lancer (theory)
« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2009, 10:42:25 PM »
I see what's going on now.  This Devonai character has no talent at all.  He just mines the interwebs for good ideas, and writes them down. 

I can't argue with that statement except to question the word "good."  :P

They say there are no original ideas anymore.  I just look for creative ways to shoot aliens in the face.

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