Post by: wasrjoe on April 17, 2005, 10:53:02 PM
Anyhow, I ramble. Any suggestions based on my tastes? Feel free to make general comments about cigars, as well. (Except for stop smoking them. I'm not going to.)
Post by: TarpleyG on April 18, 2005, 03:56:08 AM
Me too. Like I needed yet another expensive hobby, right? Anyway, I can't offer advice on your preferences because I go the exact opposite. I prefer smooth and mild. I smoked a Padron (short little thing too) a couple of weeks ago and it was okay but not my preference.
I have settled on CAO Criollos for the time being. I really like those. For a cheaper cigar, I like la Flora de Maria Mancini maduros and La Fincas.
Greg
Post by: DigMe on April 18, 2005, 04:12:29 AM
http://www.hs2000talk.com/viewtopic.php?t=20184
brad cook
Post by: Brrlgrrl on April 18, 2005, 08:45:31 AM
On to the cigars: I supplied two very different types. One, a very spicy Maduro wrapper called El Rico Habano. Not terribly expensive, 54 ring 7 1/4" length. Nice smoke, you'll get about 3 hours out of it.
Next, a very mild (wimpy) cigar called Romeo Y Julietta Churchill. That was a 50 ring 7" length. Very mild, but preferred by those who don't often smoke them. Both cigars ran between $7 or $8 a piece.
I very rarely will smoke a cigar. Usually just a couple of times a year, New Year's and Valentine's. Welcome to the world of another expensive hobby.
Post by: SpookyPistolero on April 18, 2005, 10:22:11 AM
Post by: theCZ on April 18, 2005, 12:44:56 PM
Post by: TMM on April 18, 2005, 01:52:02 PM
cigarettes will kill you, but obviously cigars are safe... uhm...wait...
~TMM
Post by: Standing Wolf on April 18, 2005, 04:22:25 PM
Some people are just natural-born junkies.
Post by: DigMe on April 18, 2005, 04:53:40 PM
brad cook
Post by: Smith on April 20, 2005, 02:39:20 AM
Post by: StopTheGrays on April 20, 2005, 06:37:50 AM
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on April 20, 2005, 03:19:06 PM
Cigars are the best. I find that the people that annoy me, are the ones that hate the smoke. Light up, they leave.
There is not a much better way for me to relax than with a cigar, tennis ball and my Border Collie.
For new smokers, Macanudo is a great all around cigar. Weak and a tad basic for me (been smoking them for a while), but for a newbie, they are perfect (IMO)- price is not bad, different sizes, stengths, etc.
Cubans can be over rated. They are usually (again, IMO) stronger ,and most prople may not like that. I tend to like stronger cigars, but there are only 1-2 cubans that I like, the rest do nothing for me.
FWIW- just because someone likes a cigar, it may be junk for you, and may not be what you like. Also, more money does not necessarily= better cigar. Case in point- my Father in Law used to smoke Davidoff's- they were like $12.00 a peice. Top of the line, etc. I hated them. Thought the taste was too trashy, didn't burn well, etc.
I'd find a cigar shop, tell him/ her that you are new, and ask for suggestions. Buy 2-3 of a few kinds, and try them. Save the labels of what you like. Bring them back- tell them what you liked. Don't be intimidated and feel the need to talk the lingo (I've been smoking cigars for about 14 years- my lingo knowledge is VERYlimited). If it's a good shop, they will teach you. It can be a simple "I like this because it tastes good to me".
DO NOT SKIMP on a humidor. NOTHING worse then spending money on a humidor, and having you cigars go bad. A perfect temporary humidor is a freezer strength ziplock. Also, a cigar box is good for a tempory solution. Fuentes come with a humidifing elemnet in them (for a full box). If you ask the shop, they usually have one lying around that they will give you. Flip that in the ziplock, and you are good to go. Save and buy a good humidor, if you decide to smoke as a hobby. Ask the shop what they reccommend- they will help you pick a good one with out spending a lot, or spending too little and getting junk.
As a rule, the smaller and shorter cigars burn hotter, longer ones burn cooler. That's all I can think of now.
Oh yeah- cigars are like guns. Support your local shops. They may be a tad more, but they will give you help.
M
Post by: nico on April 20, 2005, 04:32:26 PM
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Never smoked that much anyhow, but it got old and I like my lungs.
I'm not going to get all preachy, and I don't want to start a flame war, but just fyi, the mouth/throat cancers you can get from cigars are disfiguring if you're lucky and fatal if you're unlucky, and they still increase your risk of lung cancer. Going from cigarettes to cigars isn't a less dangerous change (neither are pipes for that matter). The standard treatment for oral cancers is to remove everything within a 1cm radius of the lesion. That's like cutting a golf ball-sized piece out of your face/head.
Post by: TarpleyG on April 21, 2005, 02:47:28 AM
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Never smoked that much anyhow, but it got old and I like my lungs.
I'm not going to get all preachy, and I don't want to start a flame war, but just fyi, the mouth/throat cancers you can get from cigars are disfiguring if you're lucky and fatal if you're unlucky, and they still increase your risk of lung cancer. Going from cigarettes to cigars isn't a less dangerous change (neither are pipes for that matter). The standard treatment for oral cancers is to remove everything within a 1cm radius of the lesion. That's like cutting a golf ball-sized piece out of your face/head.Greg
Post by: DigMe on April 21, 2005, 06:08:30 AM
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FWIW- just because someone likes a cigar, it may be junk for you, and may not be what you like.
You need to take that same logic and reapply it here:Quote
Cigars are the best. I find that the people that annoy me, are the ones that hate the smoke. Light up, they leave.
I enjoy cigars and used to smoke regularly years back, however, if you don't smoke cigars and never have the smoke can be very unpleasant. For some folks it can even cause severe problems such as asthma attacks, as is the case with my brother. Why be annoyed by someone who has different opinions or even vastly different physical reactions to the smoke than you? Now if you're sitting in the smoking section of a restaurant that's far away from the nonsmoking section that's different. brad cook
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on April 21, 2005, 03:34:48 PM
You misunderstood me-
I would NEVER smoke to intentionally annoy a stranger (family maybe, but that's another story!!!). In fact, I have been in a smoking section on more than one occasion, and put out my cigars because they were annoying people cigarette smokers. My pleasure should not be someones pain. I think that this Country would be better off if more prople had that philosophy.
To be honest, I was attempting to make a joke, that obviously was not taken that way. My apologies.
Post by: DigMe on April 21, 2005, 05:18:25 PM
brad cook
Post by: Ex-MA Hole on April 22, 2005, 03:04:30 PM
No biggie- life goes on. I reread my post- yeah, maybe it wasn't worded correctly. The easiest way to tell if I'm joking or not is this- if I'm awake, I'm joking.
I was thinking- If any of you are in the Southern NH area, Off of Exit 5 on Route 93 is a GREAT smoke shop. It's called Twin Smoke Shop. Kurt is the owner. Cool guy, he is great at helping to find that special cigar. He also does special orders.
M
Post by: wasrjoe on April 24, 2005, 03:32:21 PM
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I'm not going to get all preachy, and I don't want to start a flame war, but just fyi, the mouth/throat cancers you can get from cigars are disfiguring if you're lucky and fatal if you're unlucky, and they still increase your risk of lung cancer. Going from cigarettes to cigars isn't a less dangerous change (neither are pipes for that matter). The standard treatment for oral cancers is to remove everything within a 1cm radius of the lesion. That's like cutting a golf ball-sized piece out of your face/head.
I understand that cigars are bad for you, the health consequences, etc. I am simply referring to the way that cigarettes tear up my lungs and make it harder to breath. That's not a good thing when you have to do PT several times a week. I am not under the illusion that cigars are any better - except for the fact that I smoke far fewer. Far, far fewer.
Post by: Smith on April 25, 2005, 10:21:28 AM
Post by: wasrjoe on April 25, 2005, 05:27:54 PM
Post by: TarpleyG on April 26, 2005, 04:19:24 AM
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Wasrjoe, have you made it over to Cigarweekly yet? Looking for you. Good options there for you. I'm "Servicerifle" on that board.
I signed up over there a while back. No posts though. Same username.Greg