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Re: cool clear water
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2014, 08:13:01 AM »
Yes, but nothing says you can't use that energy again.
What the system does is boil the water (X energy per unit mass), pressurize the vapor (raises boiling point) with additional energy cost of about 0.02X
Then since that water will condense at a temperature above the boiling point of unpressurized water, transfers the heat to new incoming water, of which about 0.97X gets transferred.  So voila, 20x as much water as just straight heat and let it cool.
No magic, just a system engineering viewpoint that energy costs more than complexity.

Sounds like the only problem is startup energy cost. Which you might be able to assist by say, preheating it by other means if it's available. Not worth dealing with for mass production, just thinking specific circumstances.

Also, it doesn't include pumps for getting the water to and from the source. Obviously, that will be situational dependent. But I wonder what the numbers will be like under various circumstances.
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Re: cool clear water
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2014, 05:03:58 PM »
Sounds like the only problem is startup energy cost. Which you might be able to assist by say, preheating it by other means if it's available. Not worth dealing with for mass production, just thinking specific circumstances.

Also, it doesn't include pumps for getting the water to and from the source. Obviously, that will be situational dependent. But I wonder what the numbers will be like under various circumstances.

The startup energy is minimized because the total quantity in the boiler is relatively small compared to the throughput (its a flash boiler rather than a big pool boiler)

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Re: cool clear water
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2014, 05:41:38 PM »
Capitalism strikes again.   Funny how that always seems to work, yet all the do-gooder projects fail.  How much money have we given in "foreign aid" that has done nothing more then line the pockets (and Swiss/Caribbean Bank Accounts) of murderous thugs and dictators.
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Re: cool clear water
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2014, 12:07:54 AM »
Would be nice to have as a whole house water filter/softener system. Probably would need a pressure tank to store up some of the clean water. My city tap is so bad I get about 1 cup of water per pound of limestone...
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Re: cool clear water
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2014, 09:52:43 AM »
Somebody put Kamen and crew on making a Mr Fusion as the ideal integrated power supply for it.  With really dirty water, the waste can feed straight into the reactor, and then you get clean water and enough power to run your time machine.

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Re: cool clear water
« Reply #30 on: June 24, 2014, 02:32:13 PM »
Somebody put Kamen and crew on making a Mr Fusion as the ideal integrated power supply for it.  With really dirty water, the waste can feed straight into the reactor, and then you get clean water and enough power to run your time machine.

Then you go back in time and add more fuel to your water.  Voila! Perpetual motion time machine.
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