War in Eastern Europe, what's it good for ....

[K Frame]

Did the plane fly through a window first?

[WLJ]

In video of the plane falling it appears to be smoking and completely out of control.
This video matches up with what many of the news site are showing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-IwOk30ojk

[Unisaw]

Prigozhin reportedly dropped off radar -- literally!

https://www.foxnews.com/world/yevgeny-prigozhin-plane-crashed-killing-10-officials-say

[WLJ]

Likely something went boom on that plane based on the video

Still not confirmed Prigozhin was on board

[WLJ]

I feel better now

Biden briefed on crash - White House

We've now had a brief comment from the White House, which says President Joe Biden has been briefed on the reported plane crash in Russia.

[WLJ]

Confirmed

New
Posted at 15:3615:36
Breaking Prigozhin dead, says Wagner-linked Telegram channel

A Telegram channel linked to Yevgeny Prigozhin has said the Wagner leader is dead.

Grey Zone said he was "killed as a result of actions by traitors of Russia".

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=64e65f53d7211212a459bb6a%26Prigozhin%20dead%2C%20says%20Wagner-linked%20Telegram%20channel%262023-08-23T19%3A36%3A44.935Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:45ceac03-c4a5-4206-8e0b-49dcc51c7962&pinned_post_asset_id=64e65f53d7211212a459bb6a&pinned_post_type=share

This could get interesting, could be some revenge killings, stay tuned.

 

[WLJ]

Biden 'not surprised' by news of crash

US President Joe Biden said he was "not surprised" by the news of the crash in Russia.

But did you hear he almost lost his Corvette?

[RocketMan]

In video of the plane falling it appears to be smoking and completely out of control.
This video matches up with what many of the news site are showing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-IwOk30ojk

In the first second or so of the video it looks like there is a smoke trail from a possible SAM off to the left side of the frame.  The smoke trail moves off the left of the frame very quickly as the person shooting the video pans to the right.  The smoke trail does not come back into frame during the remainder of the video.
Freezing the frame appears to show a very puffy smoke trail at an angle pretty acute to the smoke trail from the plane.  Interesting to say the least.

[Ben]

But did you hear he almost lost his Corvette?

Jill and I know something about crashes. One time, years ago, I was driving drunk in Key West and nearly crashed my '67 Corvette. Say, did you hear the one about the drunk Russian whose plane went down? He was smashed.

[WLJ]

In the first second or so of the video it looks like there is a smoke trail from a possible SAM off to the left side of the frame.  The smoke trail moves off the left of the frame very quickly as the person shooting the video pans to the right.  The smoke trail does not come back into frame during the remainder of the video.
Freezing the frame appears to show a very puffy smoke trail at an angle pretty acute to the smoke trail from the plane.  Interesting to say the least.

Upper left?
I don't know, could be from the plane.
But something went boom either internally or externally

[WLJ]

Jill and I know something about crashes. One time, years ago, I was driving drunk in Key West and nearly crashed my '67 Corvette. Say, did you hear the one about the drunk Russian whose plane went down? He was smashed.

There are some people on Maui that will cry him a river.

[MechAg94]

I am seeing pictures posted on Telegram reportedly showing holes in the airframe that seem to indicate it was hit by shrapnel from an anti-air missile.  Others posts talk about activity in the Wagner camp.  I guess another Russian coup attempt it too much to hope for.

[WLJ]

Key Wagner commander Utkin also on board plane, authorities say

Wagner's commander and co-founder Dmitry Utkin was also named as one of those travelling on the crashed plane, on the list released by Russia's air transport agency.

Grey Zone, the Telegram channel believed linked to Wagner, also said that Utkin has been killed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-66599774?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=64e66a24d7211212a459bb83%26Key%20Wagner%20commander%20Utkin%20also%20on%20board%20plane%2C%20authorities%20say%262023-08-23T20%3A27%3A56.242Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:314c3dce-3722-45d8-b1f6-74ac236e5285&pinned_post_asset_id=64e66a24d7211212a459bb83&pinned_post_type=share

[WLJ]

Speculation this a ruse and he may have been on another plane.

[WLJ]

Well that didn't take long

Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Wagner mercenary group and leader of a failed Russian uprising in June of 2023, has passed away after accidentally ingesting a SA-2 surface-to-air missile while aboard a passenger plane.

When pressed whether the Wagner leader's death was the result of foul play, Putin responded that there was no indication of foul play and also he happened to have Prizgozhin's suicide note in his pocket. The Russian President then read the suicide note aloud, pointing out the gushing praise for himself interspersed in the note.

Leader Of Failed Russian Uprising Dead After Accidental Ingestion Of Surface-To-Air Missile
https://babylonbee.com/news/leader-of-failed-russian-uprising-dead-after-accidental-ingestion-of-surface-to-air-missile

The above is the Babylon Bee, I know it's hard tell some times.

[WLJ]

Spaceflight Now
@SpaceflightNow
The Indian space agency has released the first image from the lunar surface taken by its Chandrayaan 3 lander: https://spaceflightnow.com/2023/08/23/liv

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1694379983634919532

[RocketMan]

Spaceflight Now
@SpaceflightNow
The Indian space agency has released the first image from the lunar surface taken by its Chandrayaan 3 lander: https://spaceflightnow.com/2023/08/23/liv

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1694379983634919532

Nice!

[WLJ]

Whoops, wrong thread.

[Ben]

Whoops, wrong thread.

I just figured you were going for Iron Sky, Russia/Ukraine version.

[WLJ]

I just figured you were going for Iron Sky, Russia/Ukraine version.

Hmmmm
I'll be working on a script

[dogmush]

I wouldn't neccesarily bet the farm that Prigozhin was on that plane.  First rule of Russian sources is assume they are lying.

[K Frame]

If they got him, I'm really surprised that it took this long for them to get him.

[WLJ]

If they got him, I'm really surprised that it took this long for them to get him.

Assassinations Are Us was all booked up

[WLJ]

I wouldn't neccesarily bet the farm that Prigozhin was on that plane.  First rule of Russian sources is assume they are lying.

A healthy dose of skepticism is always warranted with this stuff.

[WLJ]

Talk of "mystery" repairs being done shortly before take off.
Meanwhile the US is pushing it was a missile

And eyewitnesses from the town of Kuzhenkino close to the location of the crash said they saw the jet explode in the sky before tumbling to the earth, but did not report any missile strike.

Kuzhenkino resident Anastasia Bukharova, 27, said she was walking with her children Wednesday when she saw the jet, 'and then - boom! - it exploded in the sky and began to fall down.'

'Something sort of was torn from it in the air, and it began to go down.'

Stewardess Kristina Raspopova, who perished in the crash, told family prior to takeoff that the flight had been delayed due to a technical inspection and unspecified repairs, according to several independent Russian outlets.

From the video I'm thinking bomb

US believes Yevgeny Prigozhin's plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile… following reports the jet 'was likely blown up by a bomb placed near the bathroom'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12440987/The-silent-assassin-Putin-makes-no-mention-Yevgeny-Prigozhins-death-speech-day-mystery-plane-crash-claims-emerge-mystery-repairs-jet-off.html