Reid introduces lautenberg powder bill!!!

[birdman]

Starting a new thread because $hit got real:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/04/foghorn/breaking-reid-introduces-bill-for-background-checks-for-ammunition/#more-221611

Just hours ago Harry Reid, Senate majority leader, introduced Frank Lautenberg’s knee-jerk reaction bill that would place restrictions and require background checks for anyone buying “explosive powder.” Depending on the bill’s language, it would include not only loose gunpowder (such as that used by handloaders) but could also cover standard ammunition cartridges. Lautenberg and Reid are trying to label these propellants as “explosives” in the wake of the Boston bombings and use that tragedy to limit general access to ammunition and reloading components . . .
It’s a back door way to make gun ownership more difficult and possibly put smaller local ammunition manufacturers out of business. After the stinging defeat of the “common sense” gun control proposals the Democrats tried to ram through the Senate, there’s little doubt that they will redouble their efforts to hurry this bill through while the Boston bombing is still fresh in the public’s mind. Watch this space.

Okay people, this could be bad if this gets traction as it risks "it won't affect me" responses if people don't really understand what it could do.

[CNYCacher]

[Matthew Carberry]

The "got real" is waaaay premature.

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/792/text

Until it has multiple co-sponsors and text to read it isn't any kind of threat.

Shoot your Senators an email and don't worry about the sky falling. Track it but don't give it more attention, and thus validity.

And for goodness sake don't rile up the folks who have to forward every damn alarmist email they get instead of checking them out first.

[Ben]

Real or not, as soon as people hear that propellant might be affected, good luck getting yourself some W231 anytime in the next year. Hello additional panic buying. Not that I should talk, since I just ordered a bunch of BP last week because I was afraid we would run into the same panic buying shortages with that as with standard ammo and components.

[birdman]

The "got real" is waaaay premature.

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/792/text

Until it has multiple co-sponsors and text to read it isn't any kind of threat.

Shoot your Senators an email and don't worry about the sky falling. Track it but don't give it more attention, and thus validity.

And for goodness sake don't rile up the folks who have to forward every damn alarmist email they get instead of checking them out first.

Apologies, for a perceived "sky is falling".  However, I will bet you it has co-sponsors within days. 

I did check it out, but it went from lautenberg saying something to Reid introducing it to committee, meaning it isn't total BS.  Its a shot across the bow, and my reason for bringing it up was the sooner we can all inform and contact, the sooner we can stop the spin that I guarantee will happen.

[charby]

Real or not, as soon as people hear that propellant might be affected, good luck getting yourself some W231 anytime in the next year. Hello additional panic buying. Not that I should talk, since I just ordered a bunch of BP last week because I was afraid we would run into the same panic buying shortages with that as with standard ammo and components.

That is what is going to piss me off the most. Its like tulipmania in a way.

[roo_ster]

Can these ****heads stfu long enough for the market to settle a bit?

I am starting to get a little cranky.

[RoadKingLarry]

Wait, didn't the Boston bozos use fireworks to make their bombs?
Never let a crisis go to waste.

[charby]

Can these ****heads stfu long enough for the market to settle a bit?

I am starting to get a little cranky.

no *expletive deleted*it, all I want is a 3-4 lbs of powder for reloading and this years range sessions.

[kgbsquirrel]

To The (Dis)Honorable Harry Reid,

FOADIAF!

Sincerely, America

[zxcvbob]

The "got real" is waaaay premature.

http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/792/text

Until it has multiple co-sponsors and text to read it isn't any kind of threat.

Shoot your Senators an email and don't worry about the sky falling. Track it but don't give it more attention, and thus validity.

And for goodness sake don't rile up the folks who have to forward every damn alarmist email they get instead of checking them out first.

If I write my worthless senators, that will just put this on their radar screen and they will co-sponsor it.

[T.O.M.]

I'llbe curious to watch how this plays out, because this one does hit the "sportsmen," and hard.  At least in Ohio, primative hunters using b.p. are a significant number, especially in deer season.

[Matthew Carberry]

"As of 04/26/2013 text has not been received for S.792 - A bill to strengthen the enforcement of background checks with respect to the use of explosive materials."

Didn't mean to sound all superior, just that we only have so much energy and attention and the usual suspects (and usual co-sponsors) doing the same old thing with the same old bills shouldn't be our focus.

No co-sponsors yet either, the press play on the bombers probably hasn't helped, they haven't been banging the gunpowder drum very loudly as yet.  The fact the bombers were Muslim but weren't well-armed and used a bunch of recreational fireworks (more control of which would affect even more "normal" voters than muzzleloader users) has blown their narrative all to hell.

[Tallpine]

They can't ban fireworks.

How else would we celebrate our freedom for which the Muslims hate us?   

[Scout26]

They can't ban fireworks.

How else would we celebrate our freedom for which the Muslims hate us?   

Pretty much banned here in Illinois.  All you can buy is stuff that makes smoke, nothing that can go *bang*.  However, take 80/94 East and at every exit just over the border in Indiana there are 2-4 fireworks places selling everything short of TNT. 

[Doggy Daddy]

However, take 80/94 East and at every exit just over the border in Indiana there are 2-4 fireworks places selling everything short of TNT. 

Sounds ripe for a sting by Mayors Illegalizing Legal Fireworks.  In other words, a MILF attack.

[zxcvbob]

Sounds ripe for a sting by Mayors Illegalizing Legal Fireworks.  In other words, a MILF attack.

Long way to go for that joke...   

[Stand_watie]

Sounds ripe for a sting by Mayors Illegalizing Legal Fireworks.  In other words, a MILF attack.

Since Harry introduced it, wouldn't that be a harry milf attack?

[Fitz]

One of our guys should introduce a pressure cooker background check bill just to be a dick

[birdman]

I'llbe curious to watch how this plays out, because this one does hit the "sportsmen," and hard.  At least in Ohio, primative hunters using b.p. are a significant number, especially in deer season.

As I said earlier, and yes, I agree with Matthew, that we should keep an eye on this, but not panic yet (which was not my intention, but rather to show that Reid was now involved), its NOT just BP, it includes smokeless, "in any quantity", meaning, say, small containers with copper/lead caps.

[charby]

I'llbe curious to watch how this plays out, because this one does hit the "sportsmen," and hard.  At least in Ohio, primative hunters using b.p. are a significant number, especially in deer season.

Many muzzleloader don't use BP but BP subsititues like Pyrodex, Triple 7, and Blackhorn 209. I personally like Blackhorn 209 for my inline shotgun primer fired muzzleloader.

[lee n. field]

Pretty much banned here in Illinois.  All you can buy is stuff that makes smoke, nothing that can go *bang*.  However, take 80/94 East and at every exit just over the border in Indiana there are 2-4 fireworks places selling everything short of TNT. 

Ditto just over the line going from South Beloit, IL to Beloit, WI.  Literally, just past the "welcome to Wisconsin" sign. 

You can also see that the road is visibly better maintained on the far side.

[Ben]

One of our guys should introduce a pressure cooker background check bill just to be a dick

I'd give whoever did that a campaign donation.

[Tallpine]

If you want to play around with pressure cookers, you should become a professional chef 

[Perd Hapley]

Ditto just over the line going from South Beloit, IL to Beloit, WI.  Literally, just past the "welcome to Wisconsin" sign.  

You can also see that the road is visibly better maintained on the far side.

Was it de Tocqueville that observed a similar difference on either bank of the Ohio River, between Illinois and Kentucky? I.e., the free state had a thriving economy, and the slave state not so much?

[scratches head] maybe a later writer.