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Title: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Chuck Dye on September 02, 2007, 03:11:38 PM
Wash your spud and, while it is still wet, sprinkle it with salt (I like coarse kosher salt) until it is coated with all the salt it will carry.  Bake 1 hour or more at 450-475 degrees (1 hour minimum, longer will only provide a tougher skin that some will prefer, over done is somewhere out near two hours for small spuds, longer for large.)  When done, scrape the salt from the skin with the back of a knife or other blunt edge.  If saved, the  salt will have a slight potato skin flavor that some will like on their meat.  The result is a potato with a leathery skin (worthy of stuffing) and a dryish, fluffy, er... fluffable, interior that makes the usual baked potato seem more steamed or boiled than baked. 
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: The Rabbi on September 02, 2007, 03:18:30 PM
Can you do the same with a microwave?  After I got one I gave up baking potatoes in the oven.  Especially after I spent 2 days baking one once....
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Chuck Dye on September 02, 2007, 03:34:43 PM
Can you do the same with a microwave?  After I got one I gave up baking potatoes in the oven.  Especially after I spent 2 days baking one once....

I have never tried.  Perhaps you could run the experiment and post your results.  Smiley

I suspect that the long time involved in a conventional oven is what allows for the dry, fluffy results and that moisture will not have the time needed to migrate out of the center of the spud in a microwave.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: mtnbkr on September 02, 2007, 03:39:52 PM
You can, but it's not nearly as good.

That said, we normally use the microwave because we don't have the time to bake them properly.

Chris
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Nitrogen on September 02, 2007, 04:08:43 PM
Wash your spud and, while it is still wet, sprinkle it with salt (I like coarse kosher salt) until it is coated with all the salt it will carry.  Bake 1 hour or more at 450-475 degrees (1 hour minimum, longer will only provide a tougher skin that some will prefer, over done is somewhere out near two hours for small spuds, longer for large.)  When done, scrape the salt from the skin with the back of a knife or other blunt edge.  If saved, the  salt will have a slight potato skin flavor that some will like on their meat.  The result is a potato with a leathery skin (worthy of stuffing) and a dryish, fluffy, er... fluffable, interior that makes the usual baked potato seem more steamed or boiled than baked. 

This is awesome.

to make it even awesomer, spread butter over the skin, then put salt on it.
You'll need to put a dish under the potato, but this makes the skin even better.

Dangit, you made me want a potato now.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Paddy on September 04, 2007, 07:24:35 AM
Twice baked potato.  Bake the tater, cut in half, scoop out the insides and mix with bacon and/or cheddar cheese, sour cream, garlic, whatever.  Scoop back into skin and bake again.

Baked potatoes also make excellent fried potatoes.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: mtnbkr on September 04, 2007, 07:42:53 AM
Twice baked potato.  Bake the tater, cut in half, scoop out the insides and mix with bacon and/or cheddar cheese, sour cream, garlic, whatever.  Scoop back into skin and bake again.

Baked potatoes also make excellent fried potatoes.

And you were asking what Southerners eat to get fat?

Chris
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: stevelyn on September 04, 2007, 07:21:46 PM
Twice baked potato.  Bake the tater, cut in half, scoop out the insides and mix with bacon and/or cheddar cheese, sour cream, garlic, whatever.  Scoop back into skin and bake again.

Baked potatoes also make excellent fried potatoes.

And you were asking what Southerners eat to get fat?

Chris

I try to follow a controlled carb diet. Bread? I can live without. Rice? Blech.. High carb snacks and dessert? Don't miss them a bit.
Potatoes? My drug and downfall.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: BobR on September 04, 2007, 08:54:23 PM
To make sure the insides cooks up nice and fluffy, I will also puncture the potato several times with a 3 pronged fork I have and put in them to ensure complete cooking. I normally use two nails per potato, one in each end, cause I use BIG potatos.

Along with the oil, salt, and a hot oven.

bob
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 05, 2007, 04:22:16 AM
"Rice? Blech.."

I'll take rice over a potato just about any day of the week.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 05, 2007, 12:52:46 PM
Bread? I can live without. Rice? Blech.. High carb snacks and dessert? Don't miss them a bit.
Potatoes? My drug and downfall. 

I'm like that with bread.  I would never give it up.  Baked potatoes, of course, are not suitable for human consumption.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Paddy on September 05, 2007, 12:59:59 PM
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Baked potatoes, of course, are not suitable for human consumption.

Why do you hate America?
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 05, 2007, 01:16:49 PM
 grin  Good question, because I also hate potato salad. 
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: stevelyn on September 05, 2007, 02:14:03 PM
grin  Good question, because I also hate potato salad. 

I've only known about a half-dozen people that can make potato salad that I can eat.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: MechAg94 on September 05, 2007, 03:31:10 PM
Leathery potato skin would make it harder to eat the skin.  No thanks.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 05, 2007, 07:49:19 PM
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Baked potatoes, of course, are not suitable for human consumption.

Why do you hate America?

Potatoes are Irish.

Therefore, he hates the Irish.

Rice is Oriental.

Therefore he hates orientals.

Bread is universal.

Therefore he hates deeply and universally.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 05, 2007, 08:01:45 PM
Therefore he hates deeply and universally. 

See, Mike, we have something in common.   smiley   Actually, I love bread and taters.  I just want my taters fixed proper. 
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: S. Williamson on September 05, 2007, 11:16:52 PM
The Ultimate.  You know it.  You Fear it.  laugh

Sour Cream, butter, bacon, chives, Ranch, broccoli tops, sharp cheddar, swiss, mozzarella, sausage, and shredded carrot.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: The Rabbi on September 06, 2007, 02:38:24 AM
The Ultimate.  You know it.  You Fear it.  laugh

Sour Cream, butter, bacon, chives, Ranch, broccoli tops, sharp cheddar, swiss, mozzarella, sausage, and shredded carrot.
Treif.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: BrokenPaw on September 06, 2007, 04:58:16 AM
Potatoes are Irish.
Therefore, he hates the Irish.
Technically, potatoes are Peruvian and Bolivian. 
Therefore he hates the Inca and Aymara.

It was those wacky Spaniards who infected Europe with potatoes.

-BP
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: The Rabbi on September 06, 2007, 05:01:09 AM
Potatoes are Irish.
Therefore, he hates the Irish.
Technically, potatoes are Peruvian and Bolivian. 
Therefore he hates the Inca and Aymara.

It was those wacky Spaniards who infected Europe with potatoes.

-BP

But I'll bet he likes corn, which comes from the same place.  So it's a wash.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 06, 2007, 05:14:10 AM
And nobody's mentioned sweet potatoes, yet?  grin

Mmm, sweet potato pie...
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 06, 2007, 05:25:40 AM
"Technically, potatoes are Peruvian and Bolivian."


Yes, I know.

The point is that if asked, I'd bet that most Americans would identify potatoes more with the Irish, and possibly with the Germans, and if you told them that potatoes originated in the new world you'd get a blank stare.

Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 06, 2007, 05:26:32 AM
But I bet that he hates squash, and squash is a new world product, as well...
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: BrokenPaw on September 06, 2007, 05:31:16 AM
But I bet that he hates squash, and squash is a new world product, as well...
Yes, but squash is evil.  This is not a matter of opinion.  It's simple fact.

-BP
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 06, 2007, 05:38:35 AM
Squash is awesome.

Butternut squash bisque with nutmeg on a cold winter day...

Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: The Rabbi on September 06, 2007, 05:47:24 AM
"Squash: The George W. Bush of the vegetable kingdom."
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 06, 2007, 06:00:00 AM
But I bet that he hates squash, and squash is a new world product, as well...
Yes, but squash is evil.  This is not a matter of opinion.  It's simple fact.

-BP


Squash is FAR from evil. It's a benevolent and wonderous creature, understated in all of its forms but showing a versatility and character exhibited by few other vegetables.

Anyone who hates squash is, well, a hater.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 06, 2007, 12:29:29 PM
But I bet that he hates squash, and squash is a new world product, as well...
Yes, but squash is evil.  This is not a matter of opinion.  It's simple fact. 


Well, only the truly insane would deny that.  For instance, people who like sweet potatoes usually like squash and fried okra and asparagus.  These are the same people who waste pie crust on pumpkin and pecans and such, even when perfectly good apples are at hand.  One day, we will destroy those people.  Keep the faith, brothers. 
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 06, 2007, 12:32:47 PM
McDonalds sells apple pie.

I'll make pecan pie with Grade B dark maple syrup instead of corn syrup and a crust lined with Scharfen Berger chocolate instead. Smiley

Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Paddy on September 06, 2007, 12:37:05 PM
Squash and okra make me barf, sweet taters are ok and asparagus is gourmet food.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 06, 2007, 12:37:47 PM
Then I'll be at McDonalds.  I'm just a wierdo.  I don't like the taste of nuts, usually. 
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 06, 2007, 12:42:28 PM
Okra. Nose snot of Satan.

I like my sweet potatos cubed, steamed with garlic cloves, and then mashed with some chicken stock, hot sauce (or finely minced ancho peppers), and lime juice.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 06, 2007, 12:43:41 PM
I like my sweet potatos cubed, steamed with garlic cloves, and then mashed with some chicken stock, hot sauce (or finely minced ancho peppers), and lime juice.

That I would try.  Lime is something we could stand to eat more of. 
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 06, 2007, 12:48:39 PM
I like my sweet potatos cubed, steamed with garlic cloves, and then mashed with some chicken stock, hot sauce (or finely minced ancho peppers), and lime juice.

That I would try.  Lime is something we could stand to eat more of. 

You can do the exact same thing with butternut or acorn squash and get the same delicious results.


Hum....

Sweet potatos in the pressure cooker... I need to stop at the Safeway on the way home.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: cosine on September 06, 2007, 12:54:38 PM
The ultimate baked potato is one with lots of butter, lots of steamed mixed vegetables, lots of chili, and lots of cheese. Do that, and you've a whole meal. Good stuff.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: BrokenPaw on September 06, 2007, 04:29:09 PM
Yes, but squash is evil.  This is not a matter of opinion.  It's simple fact. 
Well, only the truly insane would deny that.  For instance, people who like sweet potatoes usually like squash and fried okra and asparagus.  These are the same people who waste pie crust on pumpkin and pecans and such, even when perfectly good apples are at hand.  One day, we will destroy those people.  Keep the faith, brothers. 
I'm agreeing with fistful again.  Methinks perhaps a rain of frogs is incipient.

Oh, no, wait, all is well:  He's wrong about asparagus.  Lightly steamed, with butter, it's quite nice.

Whew.  That was close.  laugh

-BP
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: thebaldguy on September 06, 2007, 05:00:04 PM
I like potatoes baked on our gas grill; I use it like an oven, then cook the main dish. The baked potatoes have a nice smoky grill flavor.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: stevelyn on September 06, 2007, 07:28:49 PM
Squash bigot........ angry































































 grin grin grin
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Perd Hapley on September 06, 2007, 07:51:06 PM
Squash bigotry now!   
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Paddy on September 06, 2007, 08:07:53 PM
Squash is the overcooked dreck they serve with your dinner when the menu says 'vegetables'.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Manedwolf on September 06, 2007, 10:42:04 PM
The only vegetables I hate are the bland, taste-free bits of cubed carrots and peas passed off as "mixed vegetables" by some restaurants.

And brussels sprouts. Evil, bitter sulfurous tiny cabbages from hell.

For asparagus, only the tips. The rest is suitable for livestock to chew on. On early ocean liners, fresh asparagus was brought on board. The tips were served to first class, the rest of the stalk was served to steerage. I think that says it all right there.

And really, try some good squash or pumpkin bisques, made with ginger, cinnamon or nutmeg. They can be really, really good.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: cosine on September 07, 2007, 03:38:48 AM
And brussels sprouts. Evil, bitter sulfurous tiny cabbages from hell. 

Brussels sprouts are awesome. Little compact balls of cabbage goodness...
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: The Rabbi on September 07, 2007, 03:40:55 AM
And brussels sprouts. Evil, bitter sulfurous tiny cabbages from hell. 

Brussels sprouts are awesome. Little compact balls of cabbage goodness...

You've obviously never been to England.  There vegetables come in two kinds: the soggy peas and the mushy brussels sprouts.  You can never think of either of those again the same way.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 07, 2007, 07:59:20 AM
My absolute favorite way of making brussel sprouts?

Par boil them until ALMOST done.

Wrap in bacon secured with a toothpick.

Grill until the bacon is nice and crispy and the sprout is done.

Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Gewehr98 on September 07, 2007, 08:12:29 AM
I agree with Mike, save for one important difference.

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Par boil them until ALMOST done.

Wrap in bacon secured with a toothpick.

Grill until the bacon is nice and crispy and the sprout is done.

Discard sprouts and serve bacon.

(I get a horrible metallic taste from any and all brussels sprouts I've ever eaten)
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: The Rabbi on September 07, 2007, 08:17:40 AM
My absolute favorite way of making brussel sprouts?

Par boil them until ALMOST done.

Wrap in bacon secured with a toothpick.

Grill until the bacon is nice and crispy and the sprout is done.



Treif.   sad

I would say only Americans can take something like a vegetable, nice and healthful, and turn it into a cardiovascular nightmare.  But I am sure others do too.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Paddy on September 07, 2007, 08:36:33 AM
Everyone overcooks vegetables. Mushy vegetables suck and are nearly devoid of nutrients.  Vegetables are to be moderately steamed, then eaten al dente.  Add some herbs, or salt and pepper if you like, but keep the bacon and hollandaise the hell away from my veggies.

Thank you.  cheesy
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: mtnbkr on September 07, 2007, 08:58:53 AM
Gotta agree with Gewehr about Brussel Sprouts.  I like most vegetables cooked in a variety of ways, but I can't stand those tiny cabbages of death.  I even like butterbeans.

Chris
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: JonnyB on September 07, 2007, 09:06:39 AM
Since the thread has drifted far, far away from baked spuds...

Asparagus lightly grilled over a hot bed of charcoal simply rocks!

We do the same with red, yellow and green peppers and small zuchini. M-m-m good!

jb
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: cosine on September 07, 2007, 09:07:14 AM
I even like butterbeans.

Chris

Here too.
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: grislyatoms on September 07, 2007, 09:08:26 AM
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I even like butterbeans.

I made a big pot of them (baby limas, actually, but it's the same stuff) last night with corn and some smoked pork thrown in. Sopped up the pot 'likker' with fresh cornbread.  grin Good stuff.

Ditto on Brussels Sprouts. I love cabbage, but Brussels Sprouts have a special place with other vegetables I hate (asparagus, beets, squash).

I like baked potatoes with a some grated sharp cheddar and a dab of HOT green chile sour cream.

Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: K Frame on September 07, 2007, 09:30:19 AM
Gotta agree with Gewehr about Brussel Sprouts.  I like most vegetables cooked in a variety of ways, but I can't stand those tiny cabbages of death.  I even like butterbeans.

Chris

You know, I just don't understand this...

You "point" madly whenever collard greens are mentioned, yet you don't like sprouts.

Hell, you don't like beets, and you hate peas.


Are you some kind of commie or something?  laugh
Title: Re: The ultimate baked potato?
Post by: Chuck Dye on September 07, 2007, 11:20:09 PM
Trivia remembered from Genetics 101:  a significant portion of the population is unable to taste the primary flavor elements of cabbage family veggies and thus get the full unmasked effect of the underlying sulfur compounds.

[liberal apologist's voice]It's not your fault![/liberal apologist's voice]

I concur on the grilled asparagus, recommend wrapping them in prosciutto and having some balsamic vinegar to apply drop by drop.

Sweet potatoes, Mike?  Try Jamaican style:  peel and cube to bite size, simmer in coconut milk, sprinkle with cayenne pepper to taste.