Most mass killers are not mentally ill

[MillCreek]

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/are-mass-killers-mentally-ill-usually-not-researchers-say/

Some of them are psychotic or schizophrenic, but most of them just seem to be pissed off.

[Northwoods]

Not counting Muslim terrorism when was the last time there was a mass shooting (whether school, mall, church, etc) that did not involve a dude (can't recall any done by women) on SSRI's or other drugs known to result in violent outbursts? 

[zahc]

isn't a mass shooter mentally ill by definition?

[BlueStarLizzard]

*snort* They just want to try and make Trump sound stupid for saying that there is a mental health component.

First of all, anyone can have a psychotic break, which could be triggered by anything from a minor incident to a major trauma. Not having a significant, diagnoseable psychological disease isn't a prerequisite.

Just because someone doesn't suffer from delusions or major and obvious mental illness, it doesn't mean they are mentally healthy or stable.

If anything, I'm guessing most of these aholes suffer from depression and have a narcissistic worldview.

Yes, it's a *expletive deleted*ing mental health problem. Just because it's not a mental health problem that excuses their behavior doesn't make it not one.

[KD5NRH]

isn't a mass shooter mentally ill by definition?

I posted this to the FB group yesterday.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3a21wiRtTs

tl;dr version: three out of the four people they did this experiment on (spoiler: the guy followed through most of the show was the one who didn't go through with the murder itself) were socially pressured into (they fully believed until a few seconds after pushing him off a roof) covering up a death, including hiding the corpse, then murdering a near stranger.  No hypnosis involved; just peer pressure.  Now granted, this was a) a single victim and b) intentional on the part of the people doing the pressuring, it's not a huge step from there to misinterpreted social pressure (or other motives) and multiple victims.

[Hawkmoon]

isn't a mass shooter mentally ill by definition?

It depends on whose definition, I suppose. I agree with you; anyone whose notion of how to make things right includes killing other people (and/or himself) is mentally ill.

[MillCreek]

I believe that many of these killers are not so much mentally ill as they are simply evil. 

[BlueStarLizzard]

I believe that many of these killers are not so much mentally ill as they are simply evil. 

I think for some of us, it's the same difference.

[Hawkmoon]

I believe that many of these killers are not so much mentally ill as they are simply evil. 

They are both. Which leads to the question: which is the cause, and which is the effect?

[Northwoods]

I believe that many of these killers are not so much mentally ill as they are simply evil. 

And if that evil is only brought forward by SSRI's or other anti-depressant/anxiety medications?